Pro & Con Arguments: "Should gay marriage be legal?"

[singlegurl7]

for glbtq....go them

[Leftatalbuquerqu e]

NoQ wrote:

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STFU McQueer

You misspelled your moniker - it should read "NoIQ".

[Not Yet Equal]

While the article presents most of the irrational excuses offered for denial of equal rights, it doesn't expose the fallacy of those arguments well in all cases.

It also repeats the often repeated misrepresentation of Stonewall as being the beginning of the equal rights movement for gay people. While it was an important and major milestone, the movement was already up and running. The article recognizes there were 50 gay equality organizations in operation at the time, yet it does little to credit the early participants who risked arrest and being sent to mental institutions and sacrificed their jobs and freedom, promoting equality.

Many don't know the first public gay rights organization in the U.S. was the Society for Human Rights (SHR) in 1924, organized by Henry Gerber, who was soon arrested. Organization attempts continued and the Mattachine Society emerged in 1950, followed by Daughters of Bilitis organized by Del Martin and Phyllis Lyon (the first couple married in California) and 6 others in San Francisco in 1955.

In the 1960s, the “homophile movement,” as the participants dubbed it, became more visible. Activists, such as Franklin Kameny and Barbara Gittings, picketed government agencies in Washington to protest discriminatory employment policies. In San Francisco, Martin, Lyon, and others targeted police harassment."

In 1959 a riot in LA occurred as a result of police harassment.
In 1964, a gay group picketed the Whitehall Street Induction Center after the confidentiality of gay men's draft records was violated.

In 1965 gay activists picketed the White House on April 17 and the United Nations on the 18th after learning that Cuba was placing homosexuals in forced labor camps.

Mattachine's picketing tactic led to the joint effort, with Daughters of Bilitis and Mattachine of New York, on July 4, 1965 picketing at Philadelphia's Independence Hall. That picket became the Annual Reminder that would be repeated through 1969 and was suspended in 1970 to support the first Christopher Street Liberation Day.

April 25th, 1965, 150 people participated in a sit-in after the manager of Dewey's restaurant refused service to several people he thought looked gay.

August 1966, Gay customers rioted at Compton's Cafeteria in response to continued police harassment.

January 1, 1967, The LAPD raided the New Year's Eve parties at two gay bars, the Black Cat Tavern and New Faces. Several patrons were injured and a bartender was hospitalized with a fractured skull. Several hundred people spontaneously demonstrated on Sunset Boulevard and picketed outside the Black Cat.

By 1969, gay rights organizations existed across the country.

There were many other actions as a direct response to mistreatment from the government, police, and business owners, leading up to a police raid that took place in the early morning hours of June 28, 1969, at the Stonewall Inn.
Pride is about remembering those who marched and got arrested, imprisoned, tortured, and had their lives destroyed leading up to and including Stonewall, as well as those who continue to risk being fired, disowned by family and friends, beaten and killed, just for being authentic human beings.

[dances with weebles]

Effin Whiners wrote:

Of course homosexuals can get married.
Look at Jerry Sandusky.
Nobody stopped him from marrying his partner or tried to prevent him from enjoying his chosen homosexual lifestyle until only recently.

does it hurt? i mean, is being that ignorant actually cause pain? one would think that it would.

[dances with weebles]

Fred wrote:

<quoted text>You are confusing terms.
Pedophilia involves molestation of prepubescent children. Homosexuals are over represented in pedophilia.
Molestation of minor young men, such as was the focus of the priest abuse scandal and Jerry Sandusky, is a major focus of homosexuality.

is that what it's like for you? your queer, are you chasing around after young boys, or are you into adults like you should be at your age.

studies show that 94% of all cases of child rape, both male and female, are perpetrated by straight, married men. where's that leave your notions?

pedophilia isn't a sexual attraction, it's rape, a crime of violence, control, and domination... exactly the same as raping a woman. it has nothing to do with sex.

[STT]

dances with weebles wrote:

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does it hurt? i mean, is being that ignorant actually cause pain? one would think that it would.

You can't answer the questions.
You tell me.
The guys who can answer the questions as to whether Jerry Sandusky is a dirty queer testified last week and sent that dirty queer up the river for the rest of his life.
I bet you Topix homosexual activists would offer a lot to children to say nothing or tell them it's normal for adult queers to get gay with kids, or threaten your victims further.

Queers attack little children of the same sex day after day, week in-week out, month after month, year after year.

The world knows the truth about queers.

[STT]

dances with weebles wrote:

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is that what it's like for you? your queer, are you chasing around after young boys, or are you into adults like you should be at your age.
studies show that 94% of all cases of child rape, both male and female, are perpetrated by straight, married men. where's that leave your notions?
pedophilia isn't a sexual attraction, it's rape, a crime of violence, control, and domination... exactly the same as raping a woman. it has nothing to do with sex.

Nonsense.
Studies show that adult homosexual males are responsible for fully 2/3 (66%) of all pedophile-homosexual attacks upon children, even though adult male homosexuals comprise maybe 1/2 of 1% of population.
Homosexuals are far and away more likely to sexually attack children of the same sex (boys) than any other demographic tested.
Adult homosexual rapists of children have a new defense to crush the children they rape: homosexual rapists can accuse the children of 'homophobia' and 'bigotry'.

[dances with weebles]

STT wrote:

<quoted text>You can't answer the questions.
You tell me.
The guys who can answer the questions as to whether Jerry Sandusky is a dirty queer testified last week and sent that dirty queer up the river for the rest of his life.
I bet you Topix homosexual activists would offer a lot to children to say nothing or tell them it's normal for adult queers to get gay with kids, or threaten your victims further.
Queers attack little children of the same sex day after day, week in-week out, month after month, year after year.
The world knows the truth about queers.

okay, i'll change my question... does it hurt to be that stupid?

it's been pointed out to you ad-nausium that sandusky is a pedophile, not a queer. studies have shown for years that 94% of all acts of child molestation are perpetrated by straight men... mostly married straight men, including fathers, grandfathers, uncles, older siblings and cousins, trusted friends and neighbors. pedophilia is an act of violence, not a sex crime. it's exactly the same thing as rape.

btw... an additional 3 to 4% of child molestation is perpetrated by married women such as mothers, aunts, and older sisters.

[dances with weebles]

STT wrote:

<quoted text>Nonsense.
Studies show that adult homosexual males are responsible for fully 2/3 (66%) of all pedophile-homosexual attacks upon children, even though adult male homosexuals comprise maybe 1/2 of 1% of population.
Homosexuals are far and away more likely to sexually attack children of the same sex (boys) than any other demographic tested.
Adult homosexual rapists of children have a new defense to crush the children they rape: homosexual rapists can accuse the children of 'homophobia' and 'bigotry'.

your posts are getting more and more ignorant. maybe you should quit while you're ahead.

did you know that there's no such thing as 'homosexual-pedophilia'?

not only that, but maybe you should take a good math course so that you can understand the statistics.

approximately 10% of all male animals studied, including humans, show same sex attraction. an additional 8% of all females of the same species are attracted solely to other females... this doesn't even cover bisexual tendencies which tend to be fairly impossible to map out because they're so fluid.

what it means, though, is that a minimum of 1 out of every 10 men you know are homosexuals... and you didn't even know it. funny, that.

[STT]

dances with weebles wrote:

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your posts are getting more and more ignorant. maybe you should quit while you're ahead.
did you know that there's no such thing as 'homosexual-pedophilia'?
not only that, but maybe you should take a good math course so that you can understand the statistics.
approximately 10% of all male animals studied, including humans, show same sex attraction. an additional 8% of all females of the same species are attracted solely to other females... this doesn't even cover bisexual tendencies which tend to be fairly impossible to map out because they're so fluid.
what it means, though, is that a minimum of 1 out of every 10 men you know are homosexuals... and you didn't even know it. funny, that.

So can you be counted on to show up @ the next pride event with a FREE JERRY SANDUSKY sign?
People are mobilizing...

[STT]

dances with weebles wrote:

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your posts are getting more and more ignorant. maybe you should quit while you're ahead.
did you know that there's no such thing as 'homosexual-pedophilia'?
not only that, but maybe you should take a good math course so that you can understand the statistics.
approximately 10% of all male animals studied, including humans, show same sex attraction. an additional 8% of all females of the same species are attracted solely to other females... this doesn't even cover bisexual tendencies which tend to be fairly impossible to map out because they're so fluid.
what it means, though, is that a minimum of 1 out of every 10 men you know are homosexuals... and you didn't even know it. funny, that.

Because people with common sense and acumen can keep their mouths shut.
Then there's people like you who scream that everyone is supposed to look at you for some reason, then you tell everyone that you're a queer and you're going to make the rules from now on.
We'll see @ the polls.

[Running Alive]

STT wrote:

<quoted text>Because people with common sense and acumen can keep their mouths shut.
Then there's people like you who scream that everyone is supposed to look at you for some reason, then you tell everyone that you're a queer and you're going to make the rules from now on.
We'll see @ the polls.

Weeb's isn't gay stupid,he's a heterosexual just like you! LOL,The difference is your full of shyte and a hateful and Weeb's is a live and let live kind of straight guy who knows you can't stereotype millions of people for the actions of a few! Just like you can't stereotype all US heteros for the actions of a few! Although the vast majority of molestation's are committed by heterosexuals! It would seem that your dip stick isn't quite touching your oil! LOL

[BlessHIV]

The moment a grown man touches another man or boy sexually he is gay for life. There is no such thing as "bi". If I murdered someone 5 years ago but haven't murdered someone since does that mean that I'm no longer a murderer? Once you cross the line you cannot cross back over when it suits you. Being a fudge packer is qualitative not quantitative. It is yes or no.

If a man willingly molests a boy or lets some other guy pack his fudge he is instantly gay forever. If he goes on to marry a woman and is with her for 50 years he is still gay.

It is a disease without a cure. You either have it or you don't.

[Running Alive]

BlessHIV wrote:

The moment a grown man touches another man or boy sexually he is gay for life. There is no such thing as "bi". If I murdered someone 5 years ago but haven't murdered someone since does that mean that I'm no longer a murderer? Once you cross the line you cannot cross back over when it suits you. Being a fudge packer is qualitative not quantitative. It is yes or no.
If a man willingly molests a boy or lets some other guy pack his fudge he is instantly gay forever. If he goes on to marry a woman and is with her for 50 years he is still gay.
It is a disease without a cure. You either have it or you don't.

And you are about as F-ing ignorant as they come! Funny but the experts in their fields(psychologists & Psychiatrists)At the APA even say you are full of Ca ca! Just more lie's falling like rain out of the sky from that hateful bigoted lying ugly mouth of yours! Ha! Ha! Ha! You're funny and either ignorant or stupid! I'm betting on stupid which is incurable!

[BlessHIV]

Running Alive wrote:

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And you are about as F-ing ignorant as they come! Funny but the experts in their fields(psychologists & Psychiatrists)At the APA even say you are full of Ca ca! Just more lie's falling like rain out of the sky from that hateful bigoted lying ugly mouth of yours! Ha! Ha! Ha! You're funny and either ignorant or stupid! I'm betting on stupid which is incurable!

Hmmm. Insults and vague references to some nonsensical "evidence" that I am wrong. You did forgot to call me a closet homo though. Chapter 12 in the sodomy pushers handbook states that anyone who doesn't support man-on-man sodomy should be called a closet homo.

When a man takes a penis in his mouth he is gay. Having 100 wives will not change that. Please explain to me how a man can suck on another mans poop-smeared penis and not be gay.

[Bill Of Rights]

BlessHIV wrote:

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Hmmm. Insults and vague references to some nonsensical "evidence" that I am wrong. You did forgot to call me a closet homo though. Chapter 12 in the sodomy pushers handbook states that anyone who doesn't support man-on-man sodomy should be called a closet homo.
When a man takes a penis in his mouth he is gay. Having 100 wives will not change that. Please explain to me how a man can suck on another mans poop-smeared penis and not be gay.

And what about man on women sodomy? I mean around 34% of us heterosexuals give it to our wives and girlfriends from behind all the time! Not to mention us heteros also love oral sex to! Gee,lets sum this up and just say there isn't one thing that gays do that us heteros also do,except it would seem heteros are doing it in much greater numbers than gays! Besides the Supreme court struck down all sodomy laws 40 years ago! Sounds to me like your a big ol hypocrite now doesn't it? LOL,Sorry but your post has nothing what so ever to do with the topic of this thread! We live in a secular country and not a theocracy,if that's where you're coming from! YOU are just a common garden variety bigoted hater which means a human POS!
Heterosexuals and anal sex
nymag.com/nightlife/mating/25988/
OR
Anal sex and heterosexuals 2.
http://sexuality.about.com/od/sexinformation/...

[Katy]

Running Alive wrote:

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Weeb's isn't gay stupid,he's a heterosexual just like you! LOL,The difference is your full of shyte and a hateful and Weeb's is a live and let live kind of straight guy who knows you can't stereotype millions of people for the actions of a few! Just like you can't stereotype all US heteros for the actions of a few! Although the vast majority of molestation's are committed by heterosexuals! It would seem that your dip stick isn't quite touching your oil! LOL

I can accept that Weeb is straight, but no one believes that "Bill of Rights" is straight.

[BlessHIV]

A man banging his woman in the ass: Okay!
A man banging another man in the ass: F'ing disgusting

We are not talking about the pros and cons of anal sex. We are talking about men molesting boys and having sex with other men. That is the problem.

I do have another problem that I want to bring up. I'm kind of an animal lover, although not in the same way that most homosexuals are. I simply like animals and dislike when they are abused.

The thing you people do with gerbils and hamsters is one of the sickest things imaginable. Shaving a gerbil and sticking up your ass is something only a depraved homosexual would think of. Don't even get me started on the other forms of beastilality that the gay community thinks is some kind of human right.

You freaks won't be happy until every little boy has been molested 50 times and gerbil DNA has been altered so that they are both hairless and clawless.

[Bill Of Rights]

Katy wrote:

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I can accept that Weeb is straight, but no one believes that "Bill of Rights" is straight.

Says the man who has a major crush on Jade? Not to mention how you stalk and slobber all over him over him day after day 24/7/365! So,I would hold my tongue if I were you self-hating closet boy! Not to mention you make him sick to his stomach just thinking about you going down on him like we all know you want to do and dream about every day! Yeah,right,OK,what ever you say hypocrite! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!

[Bill Of Rights]

BlessHIV wrote:

A man banging his woman in the ass: Okay!
A man banging another man in the ass: F'ing disgusting
We are not talking about the pros and cons of anal sex. We are talking about men molesting boys and having sex with other men. That is the problem.
I do have another problem that I want to bring up. I'm kind of an animal lover, although not in the same way that most homosexuals are. I simply like animals and dislike when they are abused.
The thing you people do with gerbils and hamsters is one of the sickest things imaginable. Shaving a gerbil and sticking up your ass is something only a depraved homosexual would think of. Don't even get me started on the other forms of beastilality that the gay community thinks is some kind of human right.
You freaks won't be happy until every little boy has been molested 50 times and gerbil DNA has been altered so that they are both hairless and clawless.

Tell some more lie's now would ya? Not true none of it! The vast majority of gays just as the vast majority of straights are good decent people and would hang any pedophile from the nearest lamp post! None of what you state is backed up by facts! The APA says you're full of shyte as usual,you just hate gays,simple as that! I suppose you're another phony Christian who is as far from what Jesus taught as could be! Move along now LIAR,no sane logical person believes you,we all know you're just a simple hating human POS! 1 out of every 4 young girls are molested in their youth which make up the majority of all molestation's! I suppose your going to blame that on them also? Move along now LOSER!