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"Ender's Game" Comic-Con Panel Talks Gay Rights, Han Solo

There are 10 comments on the WCTO-FM Lehigh Valley story from Jul 20, 2013, titled "Ender's Game" Comic-Con Panel Talks Gay Rights, Han Solo. In it, WCTO-FM Lehigh Valley reports that:

During the Q&A panel for the upcoming sci-fi film Ender's Game at Comic-Con in San Diego Thursday, producer Roberto Orci responded to backlash the project got early on from gay rights groups, as it's based on the book series from outspoken gay rights opponent Orson Scott Card.

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Tony

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#1 Jul 20, 2013
That a boy Orson Scott Card!

Go get 'em!

“I will not go quietly.”

Since: Feb 07

Indianapolis Indiana

#2 Jul 20, 2013
No amount of discussion Changes the fact, Card is a Sedicious homophobe calling for the overthrow of any government which would recognize the marriage of same sex couples. Not one F***ing dime will I spend on anything based on that bigot's work.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#3 Jul 20, 2013
Pagan and Proud wrote:
No amount of discussion Changes the fact, Card is a Sedicious homophobe calling for the overthrow of any government which would recognize the marriage of same sex couples. Not one F***ing dime will I spend on anything based on that bigot's work.
Absolutely correct.(Except it's spelled "seditious". lol)
Chance

Grove City, PA

#5 Jul 20, 2013
Got my copy of the book today. Looking forward to the movie. Never would have heard of either without the boycott.

Since: Mar 09

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#6 Jul 20, 2013
Chance wrote:
Got my copy of the book today. Looking forward to the movie. Never would have heard of either without the boycott.
The entire "Ender's" collection is brilliant writing.

It's what he uses the money for that's the problem.

Since: May 12

Livonia, MI

#7 Jul 21, 2013
Chance wrote:
Got my copy of the book today. Looking forward to the movie. Never would have heard of either without the boycott.
Who's going to help you with the big words when you read it? Or did you get the Orson Scott Card for Idiots book along with it?

“I will not go quietly.”

Since: Feb 07

Indianapolis Indiana

#8 Jul 21, 2013
snyper wrote:
<quoted text>
The entire "Ender's" collection is brilliant writing.
It's what he uses the money for that's the problem.
Actually I thought it was trite and forced. From what I've read of his works they are all quite derivitive in one way or another to Mormonism, but I found his "Alvin Maker" series to be much better than the Ender's Drivel.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#9 Jul 21, 2013
Pagan and Proud wrote:
<quoted text>Actually I thought it was trite and forced. From what I've read of his works they are all quite derivitive in one way or another to Mormonism, but I found his "Alvin Maker" series to be much better than the Ender's Drivel.
You're joking!

The "Alvin" books ARE derived entirely from the Joseph Smith myth. lololol

The initial five chapters of the first "Alvin" book were the finest writing he has ever done, with an almost haiku density of subtle description; but it didn't last. It also had almost no creativity in plot at all.

I hoped that Card might be enlightened because the Mormon bishops were all over his case and effectively subjected him to an inquisition about his body of work. A lot of the mormon stuff was at least partly to mollify them that he was a good son of the church. I'm sad to find out that I was wrong.

What do you see "Ender" as derived from?

Of that series, "Children" didn't need to be written and was of far inferior quality to the rest. He blew his creative wad on the first three. The sidecar, "Ender's Shadow" series, was good enough for print but broke absolutely no conceptual or imaginative ground.

He can crank out a very good short story, but he is a very uneven writer.

In "Pageant Wagon" he looks at the role of theatre in building the shared community of a people through their shared myth. He hints at the almost mystical sacramental quality of shared feelings, something that is increasingly rare in current society. There is a binding quality, unconscious and animal, about getting together in a space together, to sit and share the sounds and smells of shared emotions, while watching a story.

I could stand it if Card just hated us. What happened in Hawaii and California demonstrated THAT clearly enough, and it could be resisted politically.

But he went so far as to conditionally declare war against the United States of America, predicated upon whether or not Marriage Equality was ever achieved.

From that moment Mr. Card became a criminal, an insurgent, and my enemy.

I trust that my Government will deal with Mr. Card in whatever way is suitable.

In keeping with the social contract, I will confine myself to never sending him, directly or indirectly, another cent of any funds over which I have influence.

Butternut is definitely Mr. Card's color.

“I will not go quietly.”

Since: Feb 07

Indianapolis Indiana

#10 Jul 21, 2013
snyper wrote:
<quoted text>
You're joking!
The "Alvin" books ARE derived entirely from the Joseph Smith myth. lololol
The initial five chapters of the first "Alvin" book were the finest writing he has ever done, with an almost haiku density of subtle description; but it didn't last. It also had almost no creativity in plot at all.
I hoped that Card might be enlightened because the Mormon bishops were all over his case and effectively subjected him to an inquisition about his body of work. A lot of the mormon stuff was at least partly to mollify them that he was a good son of the church. I'm sad to find out that I was wrong.
What do you see "Ender" as derived from?
Of that series, "Children" didn't need to be written and was of far inferior quality to the rest. He blew his creative wad on the first three. The sidecar, "Ender's Shadow" series, was good enough for print but broke absolutely no conceptual or imaginative ground.
He can crank out a very good short story, but he is a very uneven writer.
In "Pageant Wagon" he looks at the role of theatre in building the shared community of a people through their shared myth. He hints at the almost mystical sacramental quality of shared feelings, something that is increasingly rare in current society. There is a binding quality, unconscious and animal, about getting together in a space together, to sit and share the sounds and smells of shared emotions, while watching a story.
I could stand it if Card just hated us. What happened in Hawaii and California demonstrated THAT clearly enough, and it could be resisted politically.
But he went so far as to conditionally declare war against the United States of America, predicated upon whether or not Marriage Equality was ever achieved.
From that moment Mr. Card became a criminal, an insurgent, and my enemy.
I trust that my Government will deal with Mr. Card in whatever way is suitable.
In keeping with the social contract, I will confine myself to never sending him, directly or indirectly, another cent of any funds over which I have influence.
Butternut is definitely Mr. Card's color.
None the less, I still found Alvin Maker far better than the Ender's game and the other variations of ender were just so damn boring I didn't really clear a full chapter in any of them.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#11 Jul 21, 2013
Pagan and Proud wrote:
<quoted text>None the less, I still found Alvin Maker far better than the Ender's game and the other variations of ender were just so damn boring I didn't really clear a full chapter in any of them.
The strengths of the 3 main "Ender" books were in the raw imagination of the world and the plot, not in the prose. Each succeeding book was so radically more imaginitive than the one before ... well ... Pretty much the exact opposite of the first five chapters of the "Alvin" series.

As wonderful as the first five were, I got a very strong flavor of the opening chapters of Ray Bradbury's "Dandelion Wine". Not the plot, but the painterly-ness of the prose. So much depicted and evoked with so few words.

Anyway ... enough about the scribblings of a self-declared domestic enemy of the Constitution of the United States of America.

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