Should same-sex marriage become legal?

Should same-sex marriage become legal?

There are 15309 comments on the MLive.com story from Sep 25, 2011, titled Should same-sex marriage become legal?. In it, MLive.com reports that:

Between 2000 and 2005, the number of same-sex couples in the United States increased by more than 20 percent, according to the Williams Institute, a think tank concerned with laws and public policy related to sexual orientation.

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“laugh until your belly hurts”

Since: Dec 06

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#15525 Aug 5, 2012
Ken wrote:
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Marriage has never been declared a civil right.
31 states have voted gay marriage down. Are they all wrong?
Ken
um, ken? it sure seems to have given it a good go...

'Marriage is one of the "basic civil rights of man," fundamental to our very existence and survival.... To deny this fundamental freedom on so unsupportable a basis as the racial classifications embodied in these statutes, classifications so directly subversive of the principle of equality at the heart of the Fourteenth Amendment, is surely to deprive all the State's citizens of liberty without due process of law.'

tell me something, ken... couldn't we just as easily substitute the words 'sexual orientation' for racial in this supreme court ruling and have it make exactly as much sense? think about it.
Robsan5

La Mesa, CA

#15528 Aug 5, 2012
Ken wrote:
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Being a bit testy tonight, Robert.
Must say I've seen some unkind words from you as well to others.
Guess when you do it that's different?
Ken
I'm just very surprised to see so much hatred in your attacks. I don't claim to follow a higher set of rules; you do. I hold you to your word. Or does the love of Christ not apply here?

Robert

“laugh until your belly hurts”

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#15529 Aug 5, 2012
Ken wrote:
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What say we drop this topic after this?
Try exposing yourself by a school, even for nature's call, and let me know how that was received?
Don't know about you, but for modesty sake, bathroom doors were shut in my house.
Guess we are not all raised the same.
ps/I volunteer for a local police entity, and there is a misdemeanor violation code for public urination...So be aware!
WHAT? AND GIVE YOU THE LAST WORD?!

the main reason that most men won't pee in public is that the sound of laughter causes them to have bashful bladder. nobody can pee when everyone is snickering about the size of their willy.
Robsan5

La Mesa, CA

#15530 Aug 5, 2012
NoQ wrote:
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HaHaHaHa. Can't turn your abomination on me. You're a Fa&&ot cause you choose to be, don't have anything to do with me. Maybe with whoever molested you as a child but not me. I'm glad you like the word A$$ cause it would be hard on you Queers without your A$$es huh. LMFAO
NoIQ, you said that you "chose" to be straight. I didn't "choose" to be straight; I just never found guys sexually attractive. You obviously do, but 'picked' women.
My sexual orientation was set long before I was molested.
You are the one incapable of not including the word "ass" in your posts, not me.

Robert
Ken

Concord, CA

#15531 Aug 5, 2012
dances with weebles wrote:
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um, ken? it sure seems to have given it a good go...
'Marriage is one of the "basic civil rights of man," fundamental to our very existence and survival.... To deny this fundamental freedom on so unsupportable a basis as the racial classifications embodied in these statutes, classifications so directly subversive of the principle of equality at the heart of the Fourteenth Amendment, is surely to deprive all the State's citizens of liberty without due process of law.'
tell me something, ken... couldn't we just as easily substitute the words 'sexual orientation' for racial in this supreme court ruling and have it make exactly as much sense? think about it.
We are not talking denial of marriage, the issue is gay marriage, remember.

Marriage is not a civil right under our Constitution.

Race and sexual orientation are separate issues as far as I'm concerned.

I will agree to disagree..I have freedom of thought still...Mayor Chicago not withstanding.
Ken

Concord, CA

#15532 Aug 5, 2012
dances with weebles wrote:
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WHAT? AND GIVE YOU THE LAST WORD?!
the main reason that most men won't pee in public is that the sound of laughter causes them to have bashful bladder. nobody can pee when everyone is snickering about the size of their willy.
Pehaps you need to start a new thread.

How is that for a compromise?
Ken

Concord, CA

#15534 Aug 5, 2012
Robsan5 wrote:
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I'm just very surprised to see so much hatred in your attacks. I don't claim to follow a higher set of rules; you do. I hold you to your word. Or does the love of Christ not apply here?
Robert
Guess I am one Christian that does not turn the other cheek.

I'll go out on a limb and say that most of the posters on the left here are not exactly looking to be told about the love of Christ. Or even recognize it.

I'll leave that to the missionaries.

Ken
Ken

Concord, CA

#15535 Aug 5, 2012
AquariusNSF wrote:
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The SCOTUS has ruled that marriage is a fundamental right at least fourteen times. See Loving v Virginia for an example.
That was a case involving race in the 1800's....doubt the justices were thinking of same sex marriage.
ELH

Portland, OR

#15536 Aug 5, 2012
Ken wrote:
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That was a case involving race in the 1800's....doubt the justices were thinking of same sex marriage.
Loving v Virginia, 1967, happened in your lifetime.

It appears that you were not paying much attention during those years of private school education or college that you mention at least once a day. How did you parent feel about flushing their money down the toilet like that?
Supreme court of the US wrote:
Marriage is one of the "basic civil rights of man," fundamental to our very existence and survival.... To deny this fundamental freedom on so unsupportable a basis as the racial classifications embodied in these statutes, classifications so directly subversive of the principle of equality at the heart of the Fourteenth Amendment, is surely to deprive all the State's citizens of liberty without due process of law. The Fourteenth Amendment requires that the freedom of choice to marry not be restricted by invidious racial discrimination. Under our Constitution, the freedom to marry, or not marry, a person of another race resides with the individual and cannot be infringed by the State.
Please note that isn't any mention of a gender requirement:

Marriage is one of the "basic civil rights of man," fundamental to our very existence and survival....

“II Samuel 1:26”

Since: Jan 09

Location hidden

#15537 Aug 5, 2012
Ken wrote:
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That was a case involving race in the 1800's....doubt the justices were thinking of same sex marriage.
The case was about marriage ... race was just a part of it because the couple was inter-racial. Of course they were not thinking of same sex marriage ... they were ruling on MARRIAGE.
If you want a case about marriage involving gay couples, look at Perry v Brown (formerly Perry v Swarzenegger). Prop H8 has been ruled unconstitutional twice now (at district court and the appeals court panel). Judge Walker's opinion is quite thorough. Check it out.
ELH

Portland, OR

#15539 Aug 5, 2012
NoQ wrote:
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Roberta, it's too late to try and convince people your straight.
No one give a crap who's straight and who isn't but you...

and on that note I wanted to let you know that your BFF on
"Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage" posting a tear jerker of a confession that he's given note than one of two blow jobs in his life...and I got to wondering, with you two being such close friends and all...
Ken

Concord, CA

#15541 Aug 5, 2012
AquariusNSF wrote:
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The case was about marriage ... race was just a part of it because the couple was inter-racial. Of course they were not thinking of same sex marriage ... they were ruling on MARRIAGE.
If you want a case about marriage involving gay couples, look at Perry v Brown (formerly Perry v Swarzenegger). Prop H8 has been ruled unconstitutional twice now (at district court and the appeals court panel). Judge Walker's opinion is quite thorough. Check it out.
It was mainly about race.

Guess you've forgotten the 9th circuit is the most over ruled court in the nation.

Guess you cheered the decision in Gore v. Bush? You lefties are still crying over that one.

No judge will ever rule my personal conscience.

I know the gay lobby wants to control what people think. Fortunately decent Americans disagree.
Ken

Concord, CA

#15542 Aug 5, 2012
ELH wrote:
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No one give a crap who's straight and who isn't but you...
and on that note I wanted to let you know that your BFF on
"Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage" posting a tear jerker of a confession that he's given note than one of two blow jobs in his life...and I got to wondering, with you two being such close friends and all...
Just more random hate from you.
Ken

Concord, CA

#15543 Aug 5, 2012
ELH wrote:
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Loving v Virginia, 1967, happened in your lifetime.
It appears that you were not paying much attention during those years of private school education or college that you mention at least once a day. How did you parent feel about flushing their money down the toilet like that?
<quoted text>
Please note that isn't any mention of a gender requirement:
Marriage is one of the "basic civil rights of man," fundamental to our very existence and survival....
In 1967 I was 18 and most likely enjoying a teenage life. Doubt many of us were focused on that court case. In fact I was at a cousin's house on Ocean Rd. in Narragansett, RI...great beach at Scarborough.
Getting ready for university- Catholic of course. And very happy.
You, let's see....cruising the tearooms for a hand job, scrapbooking your Streisand page, going to a Judy Garland look-alike contest in Provincetown,...stuff like that. Oh, and sharpening the tongue for venomous future bookings.
Marriage is not a civil right in the Constitution.
Aren't you due at a gift-giver party? Top or bottom?
Ken

Concord, CA

#15544 Aug 5, 2012
Bravo to our space program....a landing on Mars. Something govt does do right!

Too bad Obama is gutting NASA. Most likely too white.

Kinda take ones mind off the sour economy of Obama for a moment.

Conservatives....hava a good night.

Liberals...Who the F##k cares.
ELH

Portland, OR

#15545 Aug 5, 2012
Ken wrote:
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Just more random hate from you.
Your just pissed because I called your ignorant ass out about not know that the Loving V Virgina decision was NOT the 1800's.

Or maybe is it because of that time that I asked you why you were watching men have sex in the bushes?

Again, My condolences to your parents.
ELH

Portland, OR

#15546 Aug 5, 2012
Ken wrote:
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It was mainly about race.


And to think that just an hour ago you though it happened in the 1800's and now your a EXPERT!
ELH

Portland, OR

#15547 Aug 5, 2012
Ken wrote:
You, let's see....cruising the tearooms for a hand job, scrapbooking your Streisand page, going to a Judy Garland look-alike contest in Provincetown,...stuff like that. Oh, and sharpening the tongue for venomous future bookings.
Marriage is not a civil right in the Constitution.
Aren't you due at a gift-giver party? Top or bottom?
I wasn't born until 1976

I have has exactly two sex partners before marriage. One is now my Husband.

We have six biological children and three adopted children.

I have a Bs (sociology) from Rutgers. An MS (sociology) and MA (theology) from Notre Dame and an MS and a PhD (nursing) from Stanford

I work as a "advanced level woman;s health nurse practitioner) AWHNP (AKA "DR NURSE") in OB/GYN dept at the Choctaw Memorial Hospital and at the ED and OB at Medical City Hospital in Dallas (TX) where I have about 10 months left on a rural health contract that will pay off my entire $140,000 college debt.

I plan on going to law school next year at Columbia, my father's alma mata.

I had to look up "gift-giver party" but I am not suprise that you are so familiar with them as I have previously noticed that you have a very intimate knowledge of 1970's gay communtiy slang and habits.

I'm very flexible and in got shape so I am ok on top or bottom and with lots of other positions too. We have a pretty active sex life.

You, let's see....hanging around in the bushes waiting for tricks... amyl nitrate poppers... you loved buying little gifts for your fag hags. You were always first one to be invited to all the REALLY IMPORTANT gift-giver party on Fire Island... I am thinking that though you are trying desperately to pass as straight now, you still wear woman's panties. And you are a "top" with that "cougar" of yours but from the back with your eyes shut because face down she reminds you of your mis spent youth.

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#15548 Aug 6, 2012
NoQ wrote:
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Everyone has a choice just like you, when you chose to be a Queer. I chose to be straight. Normal people make the right choice. You know where that leaves you. LMFAO
You sure do spend a lot of time thinking about gay guys having sex...especially for someone who "chose" to be straight....
Robsan5

La Mesa, CA

#15549 Aug 6, 2012
NoQ wrote:
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Roberta, it's too late to try and convince people your straight. You know what they say, actions speak louder than words, and your actions are SCREAMING Queer all the way. HaHaHaHaHaHa. Just thinking, it's a dam good thing you are really not what you eat cause you would be a penis coated with feces. LMFAO
Wow, you have quite a vivid imagination when it comes to GAY ANAL SEX, don't you?
Another post in which you mention "ass".
I am a queer because you want me to be.
You are "straight" because you "choose" to be. Do your friends know?

Roberta (just for you, bigot boy!)

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