Children with gay parents 'happier' -...

Children with gay parents 'happier' - research

There are 182 comments on the Stuff.co.nz story from Jul 21, 2013, titled Children with gay parents 'happier' - research. In it, Stuff.co.nz reports that:

COMMON SENSE: Lesbian mum and comedian Urzila Carlson says the most important thing any parent can give their child is love.

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#232 Aug 5, 2013
WotMeWorry wrote:
Gay 'families' are characterised by the fact that the children are raised deliberately and knowingly without their biological mother, biological father, or both.
The exact same thing can be said of adoptive families. Furthermore, many gay and lesbian couples ARE adoptive parents, raising children who would otherwise have languished in foster care or group homes.
WotMeWorry wrote:
So whilst those who identify as homosexual claim that their same sex attraction feelings are not a choice, their chosen lifestyle certainly is a choice.
So?

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#233 Aug 5, 2013
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>Sweetie, you stole someone else's work and you lied in claiming it as your own. You don't get to move from that point until you repent for your sins. Haven't you read the book?
Prove your allegations or apologise

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#234 Aug 5, 2013
Jonah1 wrote:
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And yet they are seen throughout nature....the very definer of 'natural'.
Nature demonstrates on a daily basis that you are wrong.
Rape incest and murder occur in nature as well as cannibalism. Do you consider these natural for man in the same way as you consider homosexuality natural for man?

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#237 Aug 5, 2013
WotMeWorry wrote:
Prove your allegations or apologise
http://www.topix.net/forum/new s/gay/TN6Q4BQBLFKVF1IOJ/post22 1

Plagiarized in full from: http://www.orthodoxytoday.org/articles/GlennG...

Posted without any citation or statement that it was written by anyone but you.

Proved your theft, proved your false witness, proved your desperate need for some pretty quick repentance, is there anything else you would like?

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#238 Aug 5, 2013
I'm sorry that you chose to be a thief and a liar and have condemned yourself to Hell. That's the only apology you are due from me.

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#239 Aug 6, 2013
WotMeWorry wrote:
<quoted text>
Rape incest and murder occur in nature as well as cannibalism. Do you consider these natural for man in the same way as you consider homosexuality natural for man?
Will my answer alter the fact that you were wrong when you stated that homosexuality isn't natural?

See dear, I can answer a question with a question too!

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#240 Aug 6, 2013
WotMeWorry wrote:
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Yes, my computer is natural for it functions as its creator intended.
same sex relations is unnatural, because it is contrary to what the Creator intended.
You have no evidence your "creator" exists, nor what it is thinking. Unless you are talking about your imaginary friends you call "god." yeah. he's not real.

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#241 Aug 7, 2013
WotMeWorry wrote:
Rape incest and murder occur in nature as well as cannibalism. Do you consider these natural for man in the same way as you consider homosexuality natural for man?
Would you like to be raped, murdered, or cannibalized? I sure wouldn't.

And THAT'S how you determine if something is an acceptable behavior or not, by whether someone else would want it enacted upon them. But homosexuality is between CONSENTING ADULTS, and that makes all the difference in the world. Whether you consider something "natural" or "unnatural" doesn't matter. The action itself is none of your business, you don't play a part in the decision. People who have chosen to do something with other like-minded individuals do not deserve to be the target of scorn, or exclusion, or punishment of any sort.

Your argument is nothing more than "I don't like it, so no one should".

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#243 Aug 8, 2013
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text> http://www.topix.com/forum/news/gay/TN6Q4BQBL...
Plagiarized in full from: http://www.orthodoxytoday.org/articles/GlennG...
Posted without any citation or statement that it was written by anyone but you.
Proved your theft, proved your false witness, proved your desperate need for some pretty quick repentance, is there anything else you would like?
My wording was completely different. Which I guess. Makes you a liar huh?

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#244 Aug 8, 2013
EdmondWA wrote:
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Would you like to be raped, murdered, or cannibalized? I sure wouldn't.
And THAT'S how you determine if something is an acceptable behavior or not.
No, that is how YOU determine if something is an acceptable behaviour or not. Or do you think every one should have the same value judgements as you do?
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#245 Aug 8, 2013
WotMeWorry wrote:
<quoted text>
No, that is how YOU determine if something is an acceptable behaviour or not. Or do you think every one should have the same value judgements as you do?
How do you personally decide what is right, and what is wrong?

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#246 Aug 8, 2013
WotMeWorry wrote:
No, that is how YOU determine if something is an acceptable behaviour or not. Or do you think every one should have the same value judgements as you do?
If you think about it, it's how YOU determine if something is an acceptable behavior also. What OTHER method do you use? Do you, in fact, do things to people with NO concern for how they might feel about it? Do you do things to others which you know that you yourself would not like? Do you just try RANDOM things, and wait for people to react? No, I'd wager that, like the rest of us, you primarly avoid doing things to people which you would not like done to you.

You're never going to get everyone's values to match up perfectly, but if we want to build a peaceful, productive and cooperative society, then we have to come as close as we can to find agreement. The easiest place to start is by recognizing the BASICS that most of us have in common. We don't want to be murdered, or harmed. We don't want to be stolen from, or have our property destroyed. We don't want to be unjustly restrained or held captive. And we all want to be free citizens, with personal sovereignty to make our own decisions with other consenting adults.

This is why homosexuality is legal in this country. No one is obliged to participate in homosexuality, but those who choose to must be free to do so, and without persecution or punishment of any kind. Your opinion of how "natural" something is has no bearing.

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#247 Aug 8, 2013
Wolfgang E B wrote:
<quoted text>
The exact same thing can be said of adoptive families. Furthermore, many gay and lesbian couples ARE adoptive parents, raising children who would otherwise have languished in foster care or group homes.
<quoted text>
So?
Heterosexual couples and even single parents are preferable to placing children in the hands of those with same sex attraction issues.

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#251 Aug 9, 2013
WotMeWorry wrote:
<quoted text>
Heterosexual couples and even single parents are preferable to placing children in the hands of those with same sex attraction issues.
Really?

American Academy of Pediatrics
American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry
American Psychiatric Association
American Psychological Association
American Association for Marriage and Family Therapy
American Psychoanalytic Association
National Association of Social Workers
Child Welfare League of America
North American Council on Adoptable Children
Canadian Psychological Association

They all disagree with your statement. Forgive me, but I'll take their word over that of an attention seeking Topix bigot troll.

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#252 Aug 9, 2013
Jonah1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Really?
American Academy of Pediatrics
American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry
American Psychiatric Association
American Psychological Association
American Association for Marriage and Family Therapy
American Psychoanalytic Association
National Association of Social Workers
Child Welfare League of America
North American Council on Adoptable Children
Canadian Psychological Association
They all disagree with your statement. Forgive me, but I'll take their word over that of an attention seeking Topix bigot troll.
Polemics and political correctness. Everyone knows that same sex attraction problems go along with all sorts of other problems which children should not be exposed to.

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#254 Aug 9, 2013
WotMeWorry wrote:
Polemics and political correctness. Everyone knows that same sex attraction problems go along with all sorts of other problems which children should not be exposed to.
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Ohhhhh, MERCY!

Sure, everyone knows that! "Everyone" except the HALF A MILLION COLLECTIVE MEMBERS of those 10 organizations, who must be far too busy with polemics and political correctness to do their jobs objectively.

Good thing we have YOU to give us the scoop on what they REALLY meant to say!

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#255 Aug 9, 2013
WotMeWorry wrote:
Polemics and political correctness. Everyone knows that same sex attraction problems go along with all sorts of other problems which children should not be exposed to.
Sweetie, you're living proof that it is heterosexuals who should be allowed nowhere near children, ignorance and hate are contagious and y'all are carriers.

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#256 Aug 9, 2013
WotMeWorry wrote:
<quoted text>
Heterosexual couples and even single parents are preferable to placing children in the hands of those with same sex attraction issues.
What a stupid remark, bigot. You just don't like gay people. Grow up.

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#259 Aug 10, 2013
WotMeWorry wrote:
<quoted text>
Polemics and political correctness. Everyone knows that same sex attraction problems go along with all sorts of other problems which children should not be exposed to.
Of course that's just not true. So why say it? Does t really make you feel better about yourself?

Needing to make up silly things that can be proven to be untrue, and the need to put others down to feel better just isn't rational or productive.

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#263 Aug 10, 2013
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>Sweetie, you're living proof that it is heterosexuals who should be allowed nowhere near children, ignorance and hate are contagious and y'all are carriers.
hey now, not all heterosexuals ;)

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