Children with gay parents 'happier' -...

Children with gay parents 'happier' - research

There are 182 comments on the Stuff.co.nz story from Jul 21, 2013, titled Children with gay parents 'happier' - research. In it, Stuff.co.nz reports that:

COMMON SENSE: Lesbian mum and comedian Urzila Carlson says the most important thing any parent can give their child is love.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at Stuff.co.nz.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#106 Jul 23, 2013
Portiai the Rossi wrote:
<quoted text>Based on your love of capitalism you must love how in 37 states the profit is to reject SSM and in Russia, China, Japan, Germany and most of Europe and all of Africa and 187 countries the profit is to reject SSM. That's how capitalism works and I love it.
Rejecting profits crashes the economies.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#107 Jul 23, 2013
Portiai the Rossi wrote:
<quoted text>I suggest that you learn to read. I apologize if English is a continuing language course for you and the basics elude you.
One of your own, thanks for addressing her lack, was the one who made the political economic motivation theory for politicians who change their stance and support SSM.
Here, read s-l-o-w-l-y:
"KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, any business wants a profit, that's how they stay in business, politicians often own businesses, and they want their businesses to propser like anyone else. Duh. That's how capitalism works, and I love capitalism."
See, I can be condescending too.
It is you who lacks comprehension of the English language, not him. There is no profit in denying some people not partake in an activity, that is a loss of profit, not a gain. Gay marriages make lots of money, and since gay couples are more likely to have a lot of disposable income, the profit could rival that of heterosexual marriages. Denying their right to partake in this activity is only based on hate and fear, nothing more.

“Good day to you!”

Since: Oct 08

Earth

#108 Jul 23, 2013
The REAL Troll Stopper wrote:
<quoted text>
If you don't believe the study, then point out the actual flaws in the study, boy.
P.S. I'm sorry the use of acronyms gets your panties in a twist.
Seems the data is a bit lopsided and very one sided....

The Australian Study of Child Health in Same-Sex Families collected data on the physical, mental and social well being of 500 children aged 5 to 17, from 315 gay, lesbian and bisexual parents.

Eighty per cent of the parents who completed the questionnaire on child health were women.(That means/establishes only 20% who completed the questionnaire on child health were men. Why the reliance on so many women and so few men for data? Was there a conflict in the data the men supplied? was it thus easier to establish data with more female parents and less male parents?)

(1)The interim results found that children from same sex couples showed no statistical difference to the rest of the population in physical and mental health, their interaction with others, and their relationship with their parents.

(2)But children from same sex couples scored significantly higher than the national average on measures of general health and family cohesion.(okay hold on. The author seems confused.#1 statement just stated that in general health kids of gay/lesbian/bisexual parents showed no statistical differences to the rest of the population meaning kids of opposite sex parents. But #2 states there is a difference between the two groups of kids in general health.)

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#109 Jul 23, 2013
No Surprise wrote:
<quoted text>
Seems the data is a bit lopsided and very one sided....
The Australian Study of Child Health in Same-Sex Families collected data on the physical, mental and social well being of 500 children aged 5 to 17, from 315 gay, lesbian and bisexual parents.
Eighty per cent of the parents who completed the questionnaire on child health were women.(That means/establishes only 20% who completed the questionnaire on child health were men. Why the reliance on so many women and so few men for data? Was there a conflict in the data the men supplied? was it thus easier to establish data with more female parents and less male parents?)
(1)The interim results found that children from same sex couples showed no statistical difference to the rest of the population in physical and mental health, their interaction with others, and their relationship with their parents.
(2)But children from same sex couples scored significantly higher than the national average on measures of general health and family cohesion.(okay hold on. The author seems confused.#1 statement just stated that in general health kids of gay/lesbian/bisexual parents showed no statistical differences to the rest of the population meaning kids of opposite sex parents. But #2 states there is a difference between the two groups of kids in general health.)
The demographic isn't nearly as far off as you might imagine, female couples raising children outnumber male couples easily 3 to 4 to 1 in most places.

You're missing something in your interpretation. Based on national standards for mental and physical health, there were no statistical differences. HOWEVER Based on assessment tests that these kids all took (separate from the general questions about their health), the kids with gay parents outscored their peers not blessed with them in a number of areas, that included their general health and their family cohesion. The two do not contradict one another, because they are talking about separate assessments.
Broseph

New Castle, DE

#110 Jul 23, 2013
Portiai the Rossi wrote:
<quoted text>You post a link called "why gay parents are awesome" which implies that gay parents do not rape their children and the 231 gay parents arrested for such were framed by in some case three month old babies. You are so wrong, gays planning for children means gay adoption and studies show that most gay parenting in 81% of the cases involve a biological child of one of the gays. I think you need to try science instead of failed science. Wow, the kids of gays all do great in school? That is so generic and such a lie. 75% of all serial mass murderers are white gay males, so how well did they do.
Even if we accept your premise that gays plan for their children, that would mean primarily adopting children who were abused, parents died, and that means that they are forced to live lives with not even one biological connection and no ego identity functionality.
Since over 50% of all suicides are done by gays and 91% of gays contemplate suicide, exactly who are these great gay parents? The 9% who do not admit to gay suicides. Also, either bullying is an issue or it is not, if it is then these children are subjected to it. To which is it, the world is a beautiful flower accepting of gays or gays need federal and state protection from rabid hate crimes and bullying???? Do make up your mind, my gay friends just do not agree with your individual assessment.
I demand that you cite sources for everything you have just said.

“Good day to you!”

Since: Oct 08

Earth

#111 Jul 23, 2013
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>The demographic isn't nearly as far off as you might imagine, female couples raising children outnumber male couples easily 3 to 4 to 1 in most places.
You're missing something in your interpretation. Based on national standards for mental and physical health, there were no statistical differences. HOWEVER Based on assessment tests that these kids all took (separate from the general questions about their health), the kids with gay parents outscored their peers not blessed with them in a number of areas, that included their general health and their family cohesion. The two do not contradict one another, because they are talking about separate assessments.
I understand but the information is still conflicting as it isn't specific of "general health and family cohesion" between hetero and same sex marriages.
Consider two same sex couple that married with kids from previous hetero marriages. Much to be considered there. Then consider the definite differences in a child's mental development from birth with two parents of the same sex and two parents of opposite sex. That would be like comparing a child raised from birth with two opposite sex parents and a child raised from birth with a dad and two or more moms in a polygamous marriage. There will be differences. Differences that you can't measure against each other adequately. Like 'family cohesion'. I personally know adults that said they had more 'family cohesion' with a single parent/guardian as a child then they thought they would have ever gotten in a two parent home with one or more siblings.
So I'm a total skeptic on this.
Deja vu all over Again

Alpharetta, GA

#112 Jul 23, 2013
MekkaLekkaHiMekkaHeinyHo wrote:
So kids in gay families are happier from a study? Hmm looks like more LGBTQZXYAPLW horseshyt to shove down everyones throats to make us accept them. If this whole movement was just to be equal with everyone else great, but it isn't anymore. Now it is bullying into tolerating what they want and attacking those that don't agree, calling them bigots or gay (yes, you do use that as an insult just as much as your so called bigots do). Attacking businesses because they don't share your beliefs like a bunch of self righteous children that are in desperate need of a nap.
I am not talking about jerks that commit hate crimes, but people that just have their opinion in a non violent non hateful manner. I respect everyone until they prove otherwise and I don't care if you are gay, but I will not have it shoved in my face because you think it is the right thing for the world. There are pros and cons to EVERYTHING in the world. Nothing is completely innocent and pure.
The cleaners called
.
Your laundry is ready for pickup
http://m0.i.pbase.com/o6/04/318004/1/73285000...
Beauty Queen

Norwich, UK

#114 Jul 24, 2013
Portiai the Rossi wrote:
<quoted text>.
Silly internet troll ....
Too bad so sad

Knoxville, TN

#115 Jul 24, 2013
Horace wrote:
Why do you think Russia stopped allowing homosexual men from other countries to adopt Russian boys?
The Russians have the right idea.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#116 Jul 24, 2013
Too bad so sad wrote:
<quoted text>The Russians have the right idea.
They'd rather allow their unwanted children to die. How caring they are.
Huh

Faribault, MN

#117 Jul 24, 2013
Any child who does not have hate and bigotry forced into there life is always happier...

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#118 Jul 24, 2013
No Surprise wrote:
I understand but the information is still conflicting as it isn't specific of "general health and family cohesion" between hetero and same sex marriages.
You do realize that there is probably more to this study than the information found in the abstract don't you? I haven't read this one yet, but it usually does work that way. Although I have read some where they probably should have stopped with the abstract. Anyways, your questions seem to be ones which would probably be answered by actually reading the study itself, you know, the stuff that follows the abstract. I've only read a couple of articles reporting on what it says.
wtf

United States

#121 Jul 24, 2013
http://clashdaily.com/2013/07/open-the-floodg...

homosexuals wont speak out against this

“A long time ago”

Since: Nov 09

in a galaxy far, far away....

#122 Jul 24, 2013
wtf wrote:
http://clashdaily.com/2013/07/ open-the-floodgates-pedophiles -arguing-their-sexual-orientat ion-is-no-different-than-homos exuals/
homosexuals wont speak out against this
Of course we will. Don't be ridiculous.

Children are barred from MANY aspects of adult life, due to their inability to make responsible, informed choices based on sound judgment. They can't buy or rent a car, they can't buy tobacco or alcohol products, they can't vote or join the military. And they can't marry.

It doesn't matter WHAT pedophiles want to call themselves. Unless there's a change to age-of-consent laws, which will affect a lot more than marriage, there won't be any marrying of children to adults.

Now the question is, will YOU admit that you were wrong about homosexuals not speaking out against this?

“RAINBOW POWER!”

Since: Oct 08

I Am What I Am.

#123 Jul 24, 2013
wtf wrote:
http://clashdaily.com/2013/07/ open-the-floodgates-pedophiles -arguing-their-sexual-orientat ion-is-no-different-than-homos exuals/
homosexuals wont speak out against this
I certainly will. I doesn't matter where pedophilia is a sexual orientation or a fetish, it HARMS CHILDREN. It will, therefore, remain illegal. Anyone trying to argue a case in favor of it should be promptly dropped off on an iceberg in the middle of the Atlantic.

“Good day to you!”

Since: Oct 08

Earth

#124 Jul 24, 2013
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>You do realize that there is probably more to this study than the information found in the abstract don't you? I haven't read this one yet, but it usually does work that way. Although I have read some where they probably should have stopped with the abstract. Anyways, your questions seem to be ones which would probably be answered by actually reading the study itself, you know, the stuff that follows the abstract. I've only read a couple of articles reporting on what it says.
I have read studies like this. They all come with a lean that kids with homosexual parents are 'just a bit happier' than in their comparative hetero parents examples.
I call it BS. I call it BS because the studies done are done to try and show kids raised by homosexual parents can fare as well as kids raised by hetero parents and that I agree with. But this 'wee bit of extra happiness' crap they toss in is crap. From a scientific perspective homosexual parents haven't been raising kids from birth/infancy to when the kid leaves for a long enough time period to get any real time data from.
Can homosexual parents or two non-homosexual parents/guardians of the same sex raise a kid and do well? Yes. No dispute. But this 'extra bit of happiness' is crap.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#125 Jul 24, 2013
You still haven't actually read anything more than the abstract have you? Get back to me when you have informed issues, rather than just the hope the fix was in. Dismissed.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#126 Jul 24, 2013
wtf wrote:
http://clashdaily.com/2013/07/ open-the-floodgates-pedophiles -arguing-their-sexual-orientat ion-is-no-different-than-homos exuals/
homosexuals wont speak out against this
Apples to oranges, your red herring is ignored.

“Good day to you!”

Since: Oct 08

Earth

#127 Jul 25, 2013
Rick in Kansas wrote:
You still haven't actually read anything more than the abstract have you? Get back to me when you have informed issues, rather than just the hope the fix was in. Dismissed.
You have reading comprehension issues you need to deal with. In idiocy of some definition you stated.. "You still haven't actually read anything more than the abstract have you?" When I factually stated..."I have read studies like this." Your inability for reading comprehension dismisses yourself. Nice job.
By the way, to say it in a nice clear way for you to possibly comprehend, when I said I have read studies like this, I did mean I have read different studies concentrating on the "..kids are happier in homosexual parenting settings" lean. I've read the studies and I've read summaries of the studies. Call them what you wish. You're nit-picking.
Here's a fact for you based on conversations I have had with homosexuals on just topix. Most are an angry malevolent bunch with a chip on their shoulder ready to jump on anyone they think is disrespecting them directly/indirectly. If these are an example of the homosexuals with angry attitudes that parent children, I'll never see how they can maintain happiness to parent a child so tests can reflect an angry parent with attitudes can raise happy kids. I don't see that for any parent with an angry attitude. Anger promotes a lot of negative experiences, not happiness.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#128 Jul 25, 2013
No Surprise wrote:
You have reading comprehension issues you need to deal with. In idiocy of some definition you stated.. "You still haven't actually read anything more than the abstract have you?" When I factually stated..."I have read studies like this."
If at first you don't succeed, whine, whine again. Sweetie, how do you know that you have read studies like this one when you haven't actually read this one? Once again dumpling, get back to me when you have actually read this study, until then your uninformed claims about it, silly. As for the rest of your rant, you had embarrassed yourself enough already, so I just didn't bother to read it.

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