High court sets Prop. 8, DOMA hearings

Jan 7, 2013 | Posted by: Rick in Kansas | Full story: www.sfgate.com

The U.S. Supreme Court on Monday scheduled a March 26 hearing on the constitutionality of Proposition 8, California's ban on same-sex marriage.

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At last. I have a very good feeling about this whole thing. DOMA is clearly unconstitutional, as even Republicans were saying when they passed it. Marriage inequality is also unconstitutional, but the arguments will be a bit tougher since the old idiot, Scalia, and his lapdog, Thomas, will be doing everything they can do, including issuing threats and attempts at blackmail over the secrets of the other justices, to keep marriage equality from happening.

Thomas wil ignore the fact that this very same inequality, pushed and supported by the church and conservatives, would have kept him from marrying his white wife in half the states as recently as 1967 (Loving v Virginia).

Still, I think the Chief Justice will eventually come down on our side. I predict 6-2 on DOMA (with Sotomayor recused) and 6-3 on marriage, though possibly tightly drawn to just California. Still, the Court has indicated that it may rule on a broader basis than the original question, just as they did in Citizens United.

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SirAndrew wrote:
At last. I have a very good feeling about this whole thing. DOMA is clearly unconstitutional, as even Republicans were saying when they passed it. Marriage inequality is also unconstitutional, but the arguments will be a bit tougher since the old idiot, Scalia, and his lapdog, Thomas, will be doing everything they can do, including issuing threats and attempts at blackmail over the secrets of the other justices, to keep marriage equality from happening.
Thomas wil ignore the fact that this very same inequality, pushed and supported by the church and conservatives, would have kept him from marrying his white wife in half the states as recently as 1967 (Loving v Virginia).
Still, I think the Chief Justice will eventually come down on our side. I predict 6-2 on DOMA (with Sotomayor recused) and 6-3 on marriage, though possibly tightly drawn to just California. Still, the Court has indicated that it may rule on a broader basis than the original question, just as they did in Citizens United.
I've heard nothing about Sotomayor recusing herself on the DOMA case. Where is that coming from?

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Amazing that the SCOUS has to vote on whether or not to deny rights to American citizens because of religious beliefs.
Only in America.

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mark in Toronto wrote:
Amazing that the SCOUS has to vote on whether or not to deny rights to American citizens because of religious beliefs.
Only in America.
Then stay in Canada.

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Amazing that the SCOUS has to vote on whether or not to deny rights to American citizens because of religious beliefs.
Only in America.
And btw, although people who live in Puerto Rico are American citizens, they have NO RIGHT to vote for POTUS, VEEP, U.S. senators, nor U.S. representatives. And THAT'S the way they like it !

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Cal In AZ wrote:
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Then stay in Canada.
He's SUPPORTING gays, you ungrateful IDIOT. What the freak is wrong with you?

Just because you are too vile to attract anything, doesn't mean the rest of us have hung up our 6 guns, you dolt. Yes, we know all about your celibacy, "celibacy", more like too heinous to be believed.

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Cal In AZ wrote:
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And btw, although people who live in Puerto Rico are American citizens, they have NO RIGHT to vote for POTUS, VEEP, U.S. senators, nor U.S. representatives. And THAT'S the way they like it !
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So what? What the hell does that have to do with ANYTHING being discussed, you blithering fool?

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"High Court" = STATE Supreme Courts

The SCOTUS is just the SCOTUS.

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The top Court in any judicial food chain, be it state, federal or foreign, is generally referred to as the "High Court".

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snyper wrote:
"High Court" = STATE Supreme Courts
The SCOTUS is just the SCOTUS.
Who actually writes these headlines for Topix? I notice that the Chronicle did not use it as it appears on Topix.

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RalphB wrote:
Who actually writes these headlines for Topix? I notice that the Chronicle did not use it as it appears on Topix.
It's the headline that came from the Topix news feed link I used. Not sure how or why it does it, but sometimes it changes the headlines from the original. I hadn't even noticed the switch when I posted it.

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Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>It's the headline that came from the Topix news feed link I used. Not sure how or why it does it, but sometimes it changes the headlines from the original. I hadn't even noticed the switch when I posted it.
Don't sweat it, we got the jist.

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Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>It's the headline that came from the Topix news feed link I used. Not sure how or why it does it, but sometimes it changes the headlines from the original. I hadn't even noticed the switch when I posted it.
I've seen headlines with the most idiotic non related descriptions below many times. It is out of control.
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as the top court in the federal system, the scotus is the federal "high court"...But most often it is used for states like NY where the high court is the superior and the trial court is Supreme to avoid confusion....

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Curteese wrote:
I've seen headlines with the most idiotic non related descriptions below many times. It is out of control.
I do have to admit that I think it's cute what this site does to headlines from the Free Republic, makes 'em look like they were typed by chimps.

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Rick in Kansas wrote:
The top Court in any judicial food chain, be it state, federal or foreign, is generally referred to as the "High Court".
Nope. THat's just sloppy usage manuals.

Like "penultimate", "High" faces a "Higher" and "Highest" in the ascending High-erarchy.

"Supreme" is just that. There is no "Supreme-r" nor "Supreme-st".

I wish that people would think gooderer.

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Nope. THat's just sloppy usage manuals.
Like "penultimate", "High" faces a "Higher" and "Highest" in the ascending High-erarchy.
"Supreme" is just that. There is no "Supreme-r" nor "Supreme-st".
I wish that people would think gooderer.
And in some states, the highest court in the state is not called the "Supreme Court". For example, in The State Of New York, the "Supreme Courts" are mid-level courts and the highest court in the state is called the "Court Of Appeals". Some other states name their courts in a similar manner.

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Cal In AZ wrote:
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And in some states, the highest court in the state is not called the "Supreme Court". For example, in The State Of New York, the "Supreme Courts" are mid-level courts and the highest court in the state is called the "Court Of Appeals". Some other states name their courts in a similar manner.
I always thought that usage of "Supreme" by State Courts to be presumptious.

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I always thought that usage of "Supreme" by State Courts to be presumptious.
No, it's not. Remember that many of the "Supreme Court"s of the various states were established LONG BEFORE the Supreme Court Of The United States.

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snyper wrote:
Nope. THat's just sloppy usage manuals.
Like "penultimate", "High" faces a "Higher" and "Highest" in the ascending High-erarchy.
"Supreme" is just that. There is no "Supreme-r" nor "Supreme-st".
I wish that people would think gooderer.
If that is what you want to believe, knock yourself out, but whether you like it or not, many sources do refer to the SCOTUS as the high court, not just this one.

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