Utah May Seek Supreme Court Help in Marriage Suit

Jun 9, 2014 Full story: EDGE 25

Utah officials are threatening to ask the U.S. Supreme Court to intervene in a lawsuit filed by same-sex couples demanding to have their marriages recognized.

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#23 Jun 10, 2014
Sir Andrew wrote:
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Yep, I'm certain. Hawai'i has a huge conclave of these idiots. I like to think of his name as Moron, I?
email me.

DNF

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#24 Jun 10, 2014
Reverend Alan wrote:
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Yeah, what's up with "threatening to ask"? Do they expect gay people to start shaking in their boots?
Wow.

For once I agree with you wholeheartedly. Brilliant funny and a big red heart.

(I was going to say the same thing when I saw that part)

DNF

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#25 Jun 10, 2014
Fa-Foxy wrote:
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Democrats don't go away (unfortunately). I ignore them.
liar

you don't ignore me

DNF

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#26 Jun 10, 2014
eJohn wrote:
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Yep! It's got to be all political grandstanding and trying to look good in front of the hate-based donor base. The "you can't get married because our religion forbids it" train has LONG left the station.
saw this today and wanted to pass it along. It's about a website that sprung up (and since disappeared)

Traditional marriage's last stand
http://theweek.com/article/index/262890/tradi...

about halfway in they discus:
Take the most fundamental argument found there the "Argument from Crucial Distinction," which is meant to show that the concept of "marriage" can't apply to same-sex couples. Claiming to ground their argument "in our moral intuitions about what the critical features and norms of marriage are," the authors make a series of assertions: first, a marriage must be "meaningfully different" from other kinds of relationships (like friendships, tennis partners, business partners, and so forth); second, the crucial difference lies in the relationship's orientation to raising children and its devotion to norms of "exclusivity, permanence, and monogamy." The authors call this the "conjugal" view of marriage and claim it can only apply to "a comprehensive union between a man and a woman (with the unifying good of the relationship being procreation)"

The authors are well aware that another view of marriage which they dub the "revisionist" view prevails among many people today. According to the revisionist view, marriage is a relationship based on romantic love and oriented toward the emotional and sexual fulfillment of both partners. Children may be a part of this union, but they need not be. Same-sex marriage has come to be widely accepted because this revisionist view has widely supplanted the conjugal view in our culture.

I urge readers to spend time at the website for themselves, reading and watching the slick YouTube videos (here's one) that purport to show that what "we" really mean by a marriage is the conjugal view that excludes same-sex couples. I predict that not a single person will persuaded by the question-begging, circular argument."

As we've been trying to explain to people like Kimare, SSM is a reality now and will be coming to every state that still refuses to recognize them..

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#27 Jun 10, 2014
DNF wrote:
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you don't ignore me
I meant Democratic politicians. I should have made that clear.

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