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#24 Feb 25, 2007
aLifeUncommon wrote:
For starters, it absolutely amazes me how many bigoted, hate filled heterosexuals start threads about gay topics. It's really starting to make me wonder. I mean, if they 'don't care', why do they indulge in the conversations all the time?
Secondly, most of us do not "broadcast" our sexuality. Think about it, heterosexuality is broadcasted in every facet imaginable. TV, commercials, radio, ads, so on and so forth.
How many of you have photos of your spouses on your office walls or desks? Is that not broadcasting your sexuality?
But if I put a photo of my wedding to my wife, that would be wrong?
Can you not see how blatantly hypocritical that is??
I think the author of this thread just wants to start arguements and looking for attention themselves, They are the ones broadcasting...
I don't have a problem with the way people live their lives....good for you and your wife.
oldgmworker

Jasper, IN

#25 Feb 25, 2007
aLifeUncommon wrote:
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I have a family. Our daughter is now 15 years old. She's just as normal as any other teenager she knows. Most of her friends have 2 sets of parents and barely remember who they are living with that weekend. Do you call that functional? That's not bad for those kids?
Our daughter knows love, stability, kindness, tolerance, hope, faith, and family.
All of her friends know about us, and that was by my daughter's choice.
While some of our friends are gay, most of our friends are straight couples. They come to our dinner parties and we to theirs. We hug them goodnight, tell them we love them and they do the same.
Why? Because they have seen past this taught hate and invisible wall. They see that we have the same struggles, hopes, dreams, and goals that they have. They also see what we don't have, because of people like you.
You can continue to play the hate card, it won't change my life one bit. But I would hope that no one in your family and circle of friends is ever gay. I'd hate to see how you would ostracize them.
That my friend, is pathetic.
What do you fear? Why do you fear? It's useless.
And how would we repopulate you ask? It's simple, the same way straight couples do that are not able to have children. Or would you consider them sick and unnatural as well?
First of all, hello to one of my internet friends. Hi a L U.
Now, to talk about some of this. I have to look to my faith to deal with this whole issue. I really have to keep coming back to Jesus Christ and how he dealt with people during his earthly ministry, and how He deals with them today.
What would Jesus do here! First, He would love people. Why would any pay attention to Him if He did not reveal His love. Second, He would offer Himself to them as He does to all. And finally, He would begin to change them from within through the power of His Holy Spirit. I keep stressing the story of the woman at the well to illustrate my points better than I ever could. Two people with nothing in common met at a well. One being the Son of God knew everything about this woman, and by simply spending some time with her changed her life forever. This happened with the only commonality between the two being water!
How can I or any Christian bear witness of and for Him if we do not love as He loves, be genuinely interested and caring for others as He would, and are we humble enough to realize that we have NO power to change any one? It is not my place to share God's throne, or to try and be Jesus. It IS my place to kneel before God's throne and to follow Jesus.
It is not a prerequisite for me to accept someone's views or to condone sin or justify the same in order to accept that person. Yes, I believe the Bible deems homosexual acts as sin. No more or less than lying, stealing, worshiping other Gods, or any other conceivable sin. I also believe we are all sinners and in need of the Savior.
So, what do we do as Christians? Do we provide more fodder for when we are called hateful? Or lean on the Lord and be loving instead of hateful?
Do we pray for the Lord to touch people and enter their lives, and do we pray for ourselves that we conduct ourselves according to His will and His example? We need to turn those pointing fingers at ourselves before we can point them at anybody else!
In summary, it would have more effect in God's eyes and ears to pray unceasingly rather than preach unlovingly.
Now I'll shut up and let God speak to peoples hearts if they choose to hear His voice. I know He speaks sternly to my own!
Mark

United States

#26 Feb 25, 2007
aLifeUncommon wrote:
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I have a family. Our daughter is now 15 years old. She's just as normal as any other teenager she knows. Most of her friends have 2 sets of parents and barely remember who they are living with that weekend. Do you call that functional? That's not bad for those kids?
Our daughter knows love, stability, kindness, tolerance, hope, faith, and family.
All of her friends know about us, and that was by my daughter's choice.
While some of our friends are gay, most of our friends are straight couples. They come to our dinner parties and we to theirs. We hug them goodnight, tell them we love them and they do the same.
Why? Because they have seen past this taught hate and invisible wall. They see that we have the same struggles, hopes, dreams, and goals that they have. They also see what we don't have, because of people like you.
You can continue to play the hate card, it won't change my life one bit. But I would hope that no one in your family and circle of friends is ever gay. I'd hate to see how you would ostracize them.
That my friend, is pathetic.
What do you fear? Why do you fear? It's useless.
And how would we repopulate you ask? It's simple, the same way straight couples do that are not able to have children. Or would you consider them sick and unnatural as well?
Amen to that. Another point to the discussion is, most folks are hetero, so there's no need to worry about procreation anyway. Knowing that, one of your questions is worth repeating: Why do you fear?
BIG VELLI

Saint Paul, MN

#27 Feb 25, 2007
Dan wrote:
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I wonder why they mope and gripe about it. If you couldn't obtain benefits because of YOUR sexual preference, color, religious beliefs, wouldn't you be broadcasting it? "I BELIEVE IN A GOD, WHAT DOES MY BELIEF SYSTEM HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH HEALTH INSURANCE?"
thats another matter(health insurance). you dont hear them say, "we want health insurance!!!" in everyday life. i'm talking about everyday life. i love all people cuz God loves all people, i just dont believe in the choice they made to be gay. you cant compare being born black or any color to choosing to be gay. i was born black, they choose to be gay. if u cant prove that scientificly, i'm gonna feel the way i feel until im proven wrong, scientificly.
BIG VELLI

Saint Paul, MN

#28 Feb 25, 2007
Dan wrote:
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BTW, I wish people like you would stay out of people's lives. It's not a question of being right or wrong, it is a question of who cares what I do or my wife does behind closed doors.
i guess u didnt see what the topic is, we're talkn bout gay people.
BIG VELLI

Saint Paul, MN

#29 Feb 25, 2007
Second Thoughts wrote:
<quoted text>Because they're attempting to convince themselves and everyone around them it's ok. They're looking for approval and acceptance.
TRUE
YES_IM_A_TEEN

Hannibal, MO

#30 Feb 25, 2007
BIG VELLI wrote:
I THINK GAY PEOPLE KNOW IN THEIR HEARTS THAT BEING GAY IS WRONG. THATS WHY THEY WANT TO BROADCAST IT. I DONT AGREE WITH BEING GAY BUT I FEEL THAT, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THAT PERSON HAS TO ANSWER TO GOD ABOUT. I'VE MET GAY PEOPLE IN MY LIFE AND FOR THE MOST PART I DIDNT KNOW UNTIL WE HAD A CONVERSATION. MOST PEOPLE STAY AWAY FROM THE GAYS WHO BROADCAST IT, SUBCONCIOUSLY I THINK THEY KNOW IT'S NOT NATRUAL BUT IT IS A CHOICE. DONT FORCE IT UPON SOCIETY, JUST DO YOU.
there is nothing wrong with a man shoeing love for another man...if u love sum1 act on it dont sit there like a dumbass!
YES_IM_A_TEEN

Hannibal, MO

#31 Feb 25, 2007
i meant to say showing but u kno what i mean
YES_IM_A_TEEN

Hannibal, MO

#32 Feb 25, 2007
my brother is gay and he loves god...and i think thats what matters

“Homosapien ”

Since: Jan 07

Minneapolis

#33 Feb 25, 2007
Why do bigots feel the need to express their feelings in public? Is it because they know it is wrong and they are looking for validation from others that hate as well. Isn't bigotry just an attempt to pump oneself up by putting others down? The creator of this thread are you really that insecure? Why don't you take your bigoted thoughts back into the closet?
BIG VELLI

Saint Paul, MN

#34 Feb 25, 2007
YES_IM_A_TEEN wrote:
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there is nothing wrong with a man shoeing love for another man...if u love sum1 act on it dont sit there like a dumbass!
TWO MEN CANT REPRODUCE TWO WOMEN CANT REPRODUCE, UNLESS HELPED BY SCIENCE, SO THAT MAKES IT MISGUIDED LUST. MEN AND WOMEN LUST FOR EACH OTHER BUT THEY CAN REPRODUCE WITHOUT THE HELP OF SCIENCE. A PERSON IS NOT BORN GAY, ITS A CHOICE. SO UR SAYN IF A PERSON IS IN LOVE WITH A HORSE, SHOULD THEY ACT ON IT? IF A GROWN MAN SAYS HE IS IN LOVE WITH A CHILD, SHOULD WE LET THAT BE LEGAL? UR DEBATING A TOPIC THAT IS NOT SCIENTIFICLY PROVEN. UR BROTHER LOVES GOD AND GOD LOVES HIM, BUT DOES THAT MEAN GOD LOVES HIS CHOICE OF LIFESTYLE? THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A GAY GENE SO U CANT SAY HE WAS BORN GAY. IF I HAD A SON AND CAME TO ME AND SAID HES GAY, I WOULD STILL LOVE HIM BUT NOT AGREE WITH HIS LIFESTYLE.

Since: Dec 06

Australia

#35 Feb 25, 2007
There is no problem with someone being gay.
Noticed the original poster didn't justify the illogical hatred they had for people with a different lifestyle to theirs, that's because, they couldn't!

I honestly think the original poster was just posting out of their own insecurities.[ie. They believe they are gay, but they also believe there might be something wrong with it, so they did this to see what reactions they got, and to see who would agree with them and what arguments they would get as to why it is wrong.]

My advice to them is, accept yourself. Come out of the closet. No longer living with secrets may be the best thing you ever do!
IDIOT ONE

Ruskin, FL

#36 Feb 25, 2007
I'm not gay. They know they are gay but, they all want to be accepted in this muadane world, Like everyone in this universe! Damned, Man inhumanity to man! Of course, without worry and carrying this heavy burden for a liftime. iIs human torture, dont you think, asking will they be accept as human being. Better get out know! Solution Start A Worldwide Peaceful movement! Then to carry this heavy burden in the heart and mind everyday!

DO GOOD DEEDS!
The IDIOT

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Horton Stevenson

Wayzata, MN

#37 Feb 25, 2007
Wow, two other Minneapolis folks on here. I just discovered this room. Whew! I surely agree that gay folks want to be accepted. Unfortunately, they are perverts. Plain and simple. Perverts. Nothing can change that. It is NOT normal to do such disgusting things with your mouth and anus.

No amount of pro-gay legislation is going to change how normal sex people think of you.

And, of course, we learn nothing from history. The historical facts are that every culture that permitted homosexuality fell. It was the beginning of the end of ancient Rome and ancient Greece, for instance.

So don't look to me for sympathy. Get right or go back into the closet.

And I am a small-lot not a big-ot. HEH! Little humour there.
YES_IM_A_TEEN

Hannibal, MO

#38 Feb 25, 2007
BIG VELLI wrote:
<quoted text>TWO MEN CANT REPRODUCE TWO WOMEN CANT REPRODUCE, UNLESS HELPED BY SCIENCE, SO THAT MAKES IT MISGUIDED LUST. MEN AND WOMEN LUST FOR EACH OTHER BUT THEY CAN REPRODUCE WITHOUT THE HELP OF SCIENCE. A PERSON IS NOT BORN GAY, ITS A CHOICE. SO UR SAYN IF A PERSON IS IN LOVE WITH A HORSE, SHOULD THEY ACT ON IT? IF A GROWN MAN SAYS HE IS IN LOVE WITH A CHILD, SHOULD WE LET THAT BE LEGAL? UR DEBATING A TOPIC THAT IS NOT SCIENTIFICLY PROVEN. UR BROTHER LOVES GOD AND GOD LOVES HIM, BUT DOES THAT MEAN GOD LOVES HIS CHOICE OF LIFESTYLE? THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A GAY GENE SO U CANT SAY HE WAS BORN GAY. IF I HAD A SON AND CAME TO ME AND SAID HES GAY, I WOULD STILL LOVE HIM BUT NOT AGREE WITH HIS LIFESTYLE.
YEA OK YOU KNO WHAT IM DONE BEING NICE....U DONT GET IT DO U????MY BROTHER IS GAY...GOD LOVES HIM......AND GOD LOVES U EVEN THO UR BEING TOTALLY STUPID! AND YES I KNO 2 MALES CANT REPRODUCE BUT WOULD U HONESTLY WANT TO BE WITH SUM1 U DONT LOVE JUST SO U CAN POPULATE THE EARTH? NO! DONT EVEN SAY U WOULD B/C NO1 WOULD UNLESS THEY WERE MENTAL!
Second Thoughts

Victorville, CA

#39 Feb 25, 2007
aLifeUncommon wrote:
For starters, it absolutely amazes me how many bigoted, hate filled heterosexuals start threads about gay topics. It's really starting to make me wonder. I mean, if they 'don't care', why do they indulge in the conversations all the time?
Secondly, most of us do not "broadcast" our sexuality. Think about it, heterosexuality is broadcasted in every facet imaginable. TV, commercials, radio, ads, so on and so forth.
How many of you have photos of your spouses on your office walls or desks? Is that not broadcasting your sexuality?
But if I put a photo of my wedding to my wife, that would be wrong?
Can you not see how blatantly hypocritical that is??
Because heterosexuality is normal. That's why it's seen all around you.
IDIOT ONE

Ruskin, FL

#40 Feb 25, 2007
Lets stop bickering my system is better than your system , my nation is better than yours, my race is better yours, my religion is better than yours... this will all lead to world wars.---> Instead lets all find Good solutions to our world problems: End famine, disease, ill of the earth...." Lets all DO GOOD"

Please consider this and think about:
Lets as global community, the masses if given chance, by '"Peaceful means'" work together to get "RID all arms and weapons factories in the world" and "Rid all the bad man-made systems"... that does not serve us that will cause ill-will in this world that lead to Wars, Famines... and ask ourselfs can we live in peace and harmony in this microsm . A human faility . Are we asking for too much?
Human Masses putting Bad leaders into power! So bad leaders putting more bad leader into power!
Mindless and brainless human masses kowtowing to false world political leaders, instititutions, religious intermediaries, popstars... that cause ill will, so please think hard before you worship and put your leaders into office, if given the chance.
Only you as human masses. if given chance must make the wise choice and with discretion on who to put into office and help the weak or else it may all come back to haunt you and your generation after !(Hopefully GOD can intervene and guide us all.)"Ask yourself is your leader serving your interest with pure or heart? Why are fighting each other?.Instead serve the many first with unselfish act and devotion with charitiable acts and without prejudice and serve GOD, the reward - and then we will become enlighten with universe in harmony and .have peace within us. DO GOOD!"
Please WAKE UP PEOPLEs of world you just bunch of maronic idiotics fools, causing more problems such as I'm better then you mentality..., remember divine being just want everyone to love each other! Look at world so called leaders of yesterday and today they all false prophets causing wars, problems ...an all humans mass just follows, kowtow to these false charistimatic human leaders like they are gods; like brainless zombies get them further into destruction of so called human idiotic race! Peace is the answer. So Wake up stupid morinic humans of race, USE little damn brains before puting the same old and few so called false leader(s); which have mass of humans, neighbors, countries... pit agianst each other like damn animals causing the destruction of the so called human race! We as brainless mass of human idiotic of an sorry race need to realize that only we are one that needs to make decision wisely and with discretion before putting those leaders into office... hopefully god will intervene in time to guide us.
From
I also belong to so called " idiotic moronic human of race", So I am also one so called Human Idiot of race: I hoping to resolve in so call time; there will be Peace on earth and Goodwill to all mankind! AMen
IDIOT ONE! Please pass it on!
Second Thoughts

Victorville, CA

#41 Feb 26, 2007
YES_IM_A_TEEN wrote:
my brother is gay and he loves god...and i think thats what matters
If he really loved God, then maybe he should try obeying Him.

Passage Luke 6:46:

46And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?
YES_IM_A_TEEN

Hannibal, MO

#42 Feb 26, 2007
Second Thoughts wrote:
<quoted text>If he really loved God, then maybe he should try obeying Him.
Passage Luke 6:46:
46And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?
ur arguing with a teen...my opinion doesnt matter but yea my bro loves god and god loves him....i believe that if u love god and believe in him with all of your heart then nothing else matters....kno what i mean?
YES_IM_A_TEEN

Hannibal, MO

#43 Feb 26, 2007
yea and no idea why that posted twice sry

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