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“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#1423 Nov 8, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
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They repudiated his results. I would hardly call the validation.
Now you are just spouting lies.

Lesbian couples rated last of all default families.

AFTER single parents.

Gay couples didn't even rate.

No surprise to a mother and father.

Smile.

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#1424 Nov 8, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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Now you are just spouting lies.
Lesbian couples rated last of all default families.
AFTER single parents.
Gay couples didn't even rate.
No surprise to a mother and father.
Smile.
I already gave my examples with links lying douche bag.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#1425 Nov 9, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
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I already gave my examples with links lying douche bag.
Must have missed those 'links'.

Please post them and let me read the article.

Smile.
Xavier Breath

Hoboken, NJ

#1426 Nov 9, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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I can easily refer you to "studies" that not only imply gay parents are superior but actually state it. But what's the use? You will ignore them or call them cartoons. You aren't interested in equality, you simply don't like me. I made you angry and now you're trying to get even but making a fool of yourself.
My argument is that it doesn't much matter if the parents are gay or straight what matters is that they are good parents. And your argument is that Frankie is a liar, or stupid, or can't read, yada yada yada.
helloooooooooooooo...... you tried that just a few posts back, and you failed. There are no studies that say gay parents are superior.

Whether I like you, or not, has NOTHING to do with the bullshit you post. You can't even flush out the points from a three sentence post without getting it all mixed up. Conversing with you is like conversing with a rock, except a rock never says anything as STUPID as you do.
Xavier Breath

Hoboken, NJ

#1427 Nov 9, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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Must have missed those 'links'.
Please post them and let me read the article.
Smile.
Google it yourself, shit-for-brains. The Regnerus 'study' has been thoroughly discredited. You don't have the education or intellect to understand why. We have gone over this with you many times, and learning does not occur. Regnerus drew conclusions that his data did not support. He FAILED to control all the variables. The ONLY thing his study 'proved' was that instability of the family unit has an effect on children. That is hardly news or groundbreaking.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#1428 Nov 9, 2013
Xavier Breath wrote:
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helloooooooooooooo...... you tried that just a few posts back, and you failed. There are no studies that say gay parents are superior.
Whether I like you, or not, has NOTHING to do with the bullshit you post. You can't even flush out the points from a three sentence post without getting it all mixed up. Conversing with you is like conversing with a rock, except a rock never says anything as STUPID as you do.
Yeah, there is the claim that lesbian couples are better parents than the nuclear family. Of course, you can't find the study methods used for that 'conclusion'...

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#1429 Nov 9, 2013
Xavier Breath wrote:
<quoted text>Google it yourself, shit-for-brains. The Regnerus 'study' has been thoroughly discredited. You don't have the education or intellect to understand why. We have gone over this with you many times, and learning does not occur. Regnerus drew conclusions that his data did not support. He FAILED to control all the variables. The ONLY thing his study 'proved' was that instability of the family unit has an effect on children. That is hardly news or groundbreaking.
In other words, you lied.

Nor can you post one, just one valid study of gay couples with kids that includes study methods.

And you want to raise children you sick reprobate.

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#1430 Nov 9, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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Yeah, there is the claim that lesbian couples are better parents than the nuclear family. Of course, you can't find the study methods used for that 'conclusion'...
Sexual orientation really has no bearing on child rearing abilities. The children of gay couples often do very well precisely because they are planned for and wanted, and a great deal of thought is given to their care but that takes nothing away from committed straight parents who do the same.

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#1431 Nov 9, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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In other words, you lied.
Nor can you post one, just one valid study of gay couples with kids that includes study methods.
And you want to raise children you sick reprobate.
I don't need a study. I just look at my children,, and the children of my friends.

My wonderful 13 year old son is a blue belt in Tae Kwon Do, is a straight A student on the Distinguished Honor Roll, and is looking forward to going to a tech High School next year, to get a head start on his dream of working in I. T.

My 10 year old daughter is A-B Honor Roll, has begun to train and run in 5Ks, and is active in our local Relay for Life, as a part of our team. She has wanted to be a teacher since her first day in preschool, and her teachers say she is amazingly helpful with the slower students. I and very very proud of both of them, and pleased with the caring and productive people they are becoming.

I've also seen the children of several gay couples in my church grow up, and they are all fantastic kids, and young adults. There are several musicians, a baker, and one in Vet school. Another is planning to be teacher. Not a one of them has taken the wrong path.

Orientation is meaningless when it comes to parenting. It's all about the love, time, support, joy, and sacrifices made to raise a child to successful adulthood.

If you have children, you already realize this, or should.

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#1432 Nov 9, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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Nor can you post one, just one valid study of gay couples with kids that includes study methods.
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You can start wading through these.

Gay Parenting Studies

• Research shows that gays and lesbians are just as fit to parent as heterosexuals, possessing the same abilities to nurture and provide stable homes:
o David K. Flaks et al, Lesbians Choosing Motherhood: A Comparative Study of Lesbian and Homosexual Parents and Their Children, 1995.
o Charlotte J. Patterson & Raymond W. Chan, Gay Fathers and Their Children, 1996.
o Judith Stacey & Timothy Biblarz, Does the Sexual Orientation of Parents Matter, 2001.
* Children of gay and lesbian parents experience no significant differences in quality of peer relationships, nor do they experience more struggles with self-esteem.
o Susan Golombok et al., Children in Lesbian & Single-Parent Households Psychosexual & Psychiatric Appraisal, 1983; Fiona Tasker & Susan Golombok, Growing up in a Lesbian Family, 1997.
o Sharon L. Huggins, A Comparative Study of Self Esteem of Adolescent Children of Divorced Lesbian Mothers and Divorced Heterosexual Mothers, 1989.
o Mary E. Hotvedt & Jane B. Mandel, Children of Lesbian Mothers, 1982.
* Gay and lesbian couples enjoy the same degree of relationship health and satisfaction, and stay together long-term at the same rates, as opposite-sex couples.
o Charlotte J. Patterson, Family Relationships of Lesbians and Gay Men, 2000.
o Philip Blumstein and Pepper Schwartz, American Couples, 1983.
o L.A. Peplau and Susan D. Cochran, A Relationship Perspective on Homosexuality, 1990.
o Lawrence A. Kurdek, Lesbian and Gay Couples, in Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual Identities Over the Lifespan: Psychological Perspectives, 1995; Relationship Stability and Relationship Satisfaction in Cohabitating Gay and Lesbian Couples: A Prospective Longitudinal Test of the Contextual and Interdependence Models, 1992; and Relationship Quality of Partners in Heterosexual Married, Heterosexual Cohabitating, and Gay and Lesbian Relationships, 1986.

Please note: Studies cited above represent only a sampling of gay and lesbian parenting research, which comprises more than 50 peer-reviewed studies over 25 years.

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#1433 Nov 9, 2013
A bit more for you.
http://www.apa.org/pi/lgbc/publications/lgpre ...
Allen, M., & Burrell, N.(1996). Comparing the impact of homosexual and heterosexual parents on children: Meta-analysis of existing research. Journal of Homosexuality, 32, 19-35.
Should the sexual orientation of the parent play a part in the determination of custody or visitation in order to protect the child? This meta-analysis summarizes the available quantitative literature comparing the impact of heterosexual and homosexual parents, using a variety of measures, on the child(ren).
The analyses examine parenting practices, the emotional well-being of the child, and the sexual orientation of the child. The results demonstrate no differences on any measures between the heterosexual and homosexual parents regarding parenting styles, emotional adjustment, and sexual orientation of the child(ren). In other words, the data fail to support the continuation of a bias against homosexual parents by any court.
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Anderssen, N., Amlie, C., & Ytteroy, E. A.(2002). Outcomes for children with lesbian or gay parents: A review of studies from 1978 to 2000. Scandinavian Journal of Psychology, 43, 335-351.
Reviewed 23 empirical studies published between 1978 and 2000 on nonclinical children raised by lesbian mothers or gay fathers (one Belgian/Dutch, one Danish, three British, and 18 North American). Twenty studies reported on offspring of lesbian mothers, and three on offspring of gay fathers. The studies encompassed a total of 615 offspring (age range 1.5-44 yrs.) of lesbian mothers or gay fathers and 387 controls, who were assessed by psychological tests, questionnaires, or interviews. Seven types of outcomes were found to be typical: emotional functioning, sexual preference, stigmatization, gender role behavior, behavioral adjustment, gender identity, and cognitive functioning. Children raised by lesbian mothers or gay fathers did not systematically differ from other children on any of the outcomes. The studies indicate that children raised by lesbian women do not experience adverse outcomes compared with other children. The same holds for children raised by gay men, but more studies should be done.
Gottman, J. S.(1990). Children of gay and lesbian parents. In F. W. Bozett & M. B. Sussman (Eds.), Homosexuality and family relations (pp. 177-196). New York: Harrington Park Press.
Reviews research literature on children of homosexual (HS) parents, including comparisons with children of heterosexual parents. Children of HS parents did not appear deviant in gender identity, sexual orientation, or social adjustment. Issues that emerged during their upbringing related more to society's rejection of homosexuality than to poor parent-child relationships. Most social adjustment problems occurred in both groups and were commonly related to family history of divorce.

Kleber, D. J., Howell, R. J., & Tibbits-Kleber, A. L.(1986). The impact of parental homosexuality in child custody cases: A review of the literature. Bulletin of the American Academy of Psychiatry and Law, 14, 81-87.
Reviews the literature on the impact of parental homosexuality in child custody cases.

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Patterson, C. J.(2000). Family relationships of lesbians and gay men. Journal of Marriage and the Family, 62, 1052- 1069.
Presents an overview of research on the family lives of lesbians and gay men.
Xavier Breath

Hoboken, NJ

#1441 Nov 9, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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Yeah, there is the claim that lesbian couples are better parents than the nuclear family. Of course, you can't find the study methods used for that 'conclusion'...
Because there is no study that claims lesbian couples are better parents than a nuclear family. Geez, KiMerde. Just how dumb are you?
Xavier Breath

Hoboken, NJ

#1442 Nov 9, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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Don't you love X-Box's argument? You are wrong because "you don't have the education or intellect to understand why."
Don't you love Blankie when he mixes up cause and effect?
Xavier Breath

Hoboken, NJ

#1443 Nov 9, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
P.S. More ad hominem bullsh!t from the peanut gallery.
Now you wouldn't be using the special pleading fallacy there, would you? Of course not, because you don't even know what that is.
Xavier Breath

Hoboken, NJ

#1444 Nov 9, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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:)
I'm gonna spring my brother from the VA hospital for a day pass and take him too. He doesn't talk much but he understands kindness. I took him last year. We ate at the bar and everyone was buying us beers. He was smiling and even laughed a little. A rare thing.
So your family has a history of psychosis..... who would have ever guessed....
Xavier Breath

Hoboken, NJ

#1445 Nov 9, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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In other words, you lied.
Nor can you post one, just one valid study of gay couples with kids that includes study methods.
And you want to raise children you sick reprobate.
What did I lie about?

Look, dumbass. EVERY study that gets published in a scientific journal includes their research methodology.

Um.... where did I say I wanted to raise children, you demented old liar?
Poof

Rock Island, IL

#1451 Nov 9, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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A shell fragment in the brain is not psychosis.
More war stories? Please Audie tell us another.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#1452 Nov 9, 2013
Quest wrote:
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Sexual orientation really has no bearing on child rearing abilities. The children of gay couples often do very well precisely because they are planned for and wanted, and a great deal of thought is given to their care but that takes nothing away from committed straight parents who do the same.
What a crock of despicable BS!

Every study of default families shows a drastic decline of child well being.

You have the gall to betray your own mother and father! Do you understand how twisted and perverted that is?

Every person is intimately connected to only one set of parents. That is an incredibly intimate connection with numerous affects that no other person can match. And certainly not a duplicate half set of default parents.

You are one sick idiot!

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#1453 Nov 9, 2013
Quest wrote:
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I don't need a study. I just look at my children,, and the children of my friends.
My wonderful 13 year old son is a blue belt in Tae Kwon Do, is a straight A student on the Distinguished Honor Roll, and is looking forward to going to a tech High School next year, to get a head start on his dream of working in I. T.
My 10 year old daughter is A-B Honor Roll, has begun to train and run in 5Ks, and is active in our local Relay for Life, as a part of our team. She has wanted to be a teacher since her first day in preschool, and her teachers say she is amazingly helpful with the slower students. I and very very proud of both of them, and pleased with the caring and productive people they are becoming.
I've also seen the children of several gay couples in my church grow up, and they are all fantastic kids, and young adults. There are several musicians, a baker, and one in Vet school. Another is planning to be teacher. Not a one of them has taken the wrong path.
Orientation is meaningless when it comes to parenting. It's all about the love, time, support, joy, and sacrifices made to raise a child to successful adulthood.
If you have children, you already realize this, or should.
Your experience is not the measure of the average. Nor does your description take into account all the aspects of well being for a child. What is certain is that your account is biased.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#1454 Nov 9, 2013
Quest wrote:
A bit more for you.
http://www.apa.org/pi/lgbc/publications/lgpre ...
Allen, M., & Burrell, N.(1996). Comparing the impact of homosexual and heterosexual parents on children: Meta-analysis of existing research. Journal of Homosexuality, 32, 19-35.
Should the sexual orientation of the parent play a part in the determination of custody or visitation in order to protect the child? This meta-analysis summarizes the available quantitative literature comparing the impact of heterosexual and homosexual parents, using a variety of measures, on the child(ren).
The analyses examine parenting practices, the emotional well-being of the child, and the sexual orientation of the child. The results demonstrate no differences on any measures between the heterosexual and homosexual parents regarding parenting styles, emotional adjustment, and sexual orientation of the child(ren). In other words, the data fail to support the continuation of a bias against homosexual parents by any court.
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Anderssen, N., Amlie, C., & Ytteroy, E. A.(2002). Outcomes for children with lesbian or gay parents: A review of studies from 1978 to 2000. Scandinavian Journal of Psychology, 43, 335-351.
Reviewed 23 empirical studies published between 1978 and 2000 on nonclinical children raised by lesbian mothers or gay fathers (one Belgian/Dutch, one Danish, three British, and 18 North American). Twenty studies reported on offspring of lesbian mothers, and three on offspring of gay fathers. The studies encompassed a total of 615 offspring (age range 1.5-44 yrs.) of lesbian mothers or gay fathers and 387 controls, who were assessed by psychological tests, questionnaires, or interviews. Seven types of outcomes were found to be typical: emotional functioning, sexual preference, stigmatization, gender role behavior, behavioral adjustment, gender identity, and cognitive functioning. Children raised by lesbian mothers or gay fathers did not systematically differ from other children on any of the outcomes. The studies indicate that children raised by lesbian women do not experience adverse outcomes compared with other children. The same holds for children raised by gay men, but more studies should be done.
Gottman, J. S.(1990). Children of gay and lesbian parents. In F. W. Bozett & M. B. Sussman (Eds.), Homosexuality and family relations (pp. 177-196). New York: Harrington Park Press.
Reviews research literature on children of homosexual (HS) parents, including comparisons with children of heterosexual parents. Children of HS parents did not appear deviant in gender identity, sexual orientation, or social adjustment. Issues that emerged during their upbringing related more to society's rejection of homosexuality than to poor parent-child relationships. Most social adjustment problems occurred in both groups and were commonly related to family history of divorce.
Kleber, D. J., Howell, R. J., & Tibbits-Kleber, A. L.(1986). The impact of parental homosexuality in child custody cases: A review of the literature. Bulletin of the American Academy of Psychiatry and Law, 14, 81-87.
Reviews the literature on the impact of parental homosexuality in child custody cases.
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Patterson, C. J.(2000). Family relationships of lesbians and gay men. Journal of Marriage and the Family, 62, 1052- 1069.
Presents an overview of research on the family lives of lesbians and gay men.
I didn't ask for a list of studies, I asked for one supportive study that includes the methods used to compile the study.

I know there are numerous studies that make outrageous claims. Now expose how they came to those conclusions if you can.

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