Pastor Won't Testify in Same-Sex Custody Dispute

Jan 25, 2013 Full story: EDGE 405

A Virginia pastor convicted of helping a woman and her daughter involved in a custody dispute with the woman's former lesbian partner was taken into federal custody Thursday after refusing to answer questions about others involved in the flight posed by grand jury investigating the custody case.

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Since: Dec 11

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#145 Jan 29, 2013
straight shooter wrote:
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and then found Jenkins to be dangerous...
I get how the law works, I am talking about how the law works is what made an honest woman and her honest pastor CRIMINALS...
An honest women? Miller's actions were disgraceful, harmful, and illegal.

Jenkins was a legitimate legal parent of their daughter, who was kidnapped.
straight shooter

Montpelier, VT

#146 Jan 29, 2013
The_Box wrote:
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Jenkins was a legitimate legal parent of their daughter, who was kidnapped.
due to bad law which told her she had to give up her natural baby to her old partner who was not biologically related...
...

if you had natural children you would understand...
Jane Dodo

Hoboken, NJ

#147 Jan 29, 2013
straight shooter wrote:
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I would LOVE to hear your interpretation on how any of this applies...
lets have it !
(although i expect you will dodge like you always "do do")
-A lawyer’s conduct should conform to the requirements of the law, both in professional service to clients and in the lawyer’s business and personal affairs. A lawyer should use the law’s procedures only for legitimate purposes and not to harass or intimidate others. A lawyer should demonstrate respect for the legal system and for those who serve it, including judges, other lawyers and public officials.

-A lawyer shall not counsel a client to engage, or assist a client, in conduct that the lawyer knows is criminal or fraudulent,

-It is professional misconduct for a lawyer to:

(a) violate or attempt to violate the Rules of Professional Conduct, knowingly assist or induce another to do so, or do so through the acts of another;

(b) engage in a “serious crime,” defined as illegal conduct involving any felony or involving any lesser crime a necessary element of which involves interference with the administration of justice, false swearing, intentional misrepresentation, fraud, deceit, bribery, extortion, misappropriation, theft, or an attempt or a conspiracy or solicitation of another to commit a “serious crime”;

(c) engage in conduct involving dishonesty, fraud, deceit or misrepresentation;

(d) engage in conduct that is prejudicial to the administration of justice;

(e) state or imply an ability to influence improperly a government agency or official;

(f) knowingly assist a judge or judicial officer in conduct that is a violation of applicable rules of judicial conduct or other law;

(g) discriminate against any individual because of his or her race, color, religion, ancestry, national origin, sex, sexual orientation, place of birth or age, or against a qualified handicapped individual, in hiring, promoting or otherwise determining the conditions of employment of that individual; or

(h) engage in any other conduct which adversely reflects on the lawyer’s fitness to practice law.

Ok. Now it's your turn. Tell me how this has nothing to do with advising a client to ignore a Court order.

Since: Dec 11

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#148 Jan 29, 2013
straight shooter wrote:
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due to bad law which told her she had to give up her natural baby to her old partner who was not biologically related...
...
if you had natural children you would understand...
There was nothing bad about the law.

They were both equal parents. Miller was not a single mom who met Jenkins and introduced her to her daughter as a step-parent. They had the child together and the child knew both as a parent since birth.

You're asking that the entire circumstances of the child's birth and early life be ignored in favor of a coin-flip decision over who would carry the pregnancy.
Jane Dodo

Hoboken, NJ

#149 Jan 29, 2013
straight shooter wrote:
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due to bad law which told her she had to give up her natural baby to her old partner who was not biologically related...
...
if you had natural children you would understand...
...and if you had a law degree YOU would understand that saying something as BLATANTLY stupid as "due to a bad law" gives anyone the right to ignore it.

Since: Mar 09

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#150 Jan 29, 2013
straight shooter wrote:
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reality aside, you just make stuff up huh?
all it was was that she wouldn't let her ex lesbian partner see the child...
so this woman CHOSE to not be a lesbian (no one comments on that) and decided her partner was dangerous to her biological child, and look what you made her into...
and look what THEY made "family" into...
Sure we have. We've commented a lot on bisexual women.
straight shooter

Montpelier, VT

#151 Jan 29, 2013
Jane Dodo wrote:
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-A lawyer’s conduct should conform to the requirements of the law, both in professional service to clients and in the lawyer’s business and personal affairs. A lawyer should use the law’s procedures only for legitimate purposes and not to harass or intimidate others. A lawyer should demonstrate respect for the legal system and for those who serve it, including judges, other lawyers and public officials.
-A lawyer shall not counsel a client to engage, or assist a client, in conduct that the lawyer knows is criminal or fraudulent,
-It is professional misconduct for a lawyer to:
(a) violate or attempt to violate the Rules of Professional Conduct, knowingly assist or induce another to do so, or do so through the acts of another;
(b) engage in a “serious crime,” defined as illegal conduct involving any felony or involving any lesser crime a necessary element of which involves interference with the administration of justice, false swearing, intentional misrepresentation, fraud, deceit, bribery, extortion, misappropriation, theft, or an attempt or a conspiracy or solicitation of another to commit a “serious crime”;
(c) engage in conduct involving dishonesty, fraud, deceit or misrepresentation;
(d) engage in conduct that is prejudicial to the administration of justice;
(e) state or imply an ability to influence improperly a government agency or official;
(f) knowingly assist a judge or judicial officer in conduct that is a violation of applicable rules of judicial conduct or other law;
(g) discriminate against any individual because of his or her race, color, religion, ancestry, national origin, sex, sexual orientation, place of birth or age, or against a qualified handicapped individual, in hiring, promoting or otherwise determining the conditions of employment of that individual; or
(h) engage in any other conduct which adversely reflects on the lawyer’s fitness to practice law.
Ok. Now it's your turn. Tell me how this has nothing to do with advising a client to ignore a Court order.
sure after you explain:
1. who my client is?
2. how an atty/client relationship was formed?
3. where I took part or advised them to do anything?

so reality aside as usual huh, loser?

the only part you needed "adversely reflects on the lawyer’s fitness to practice law." which means even illegalities i do PERSONALLY have no bearing unless they effect my ability to "practice law"...

So, what JOB did YOU have at GE?
I know, you lied, you never worked for GE...

But you do a great job playing with icons fraud-boy!
straight shooter

Montpelier, VT

#152 Jan 29, 2013
Jane Dodo wrote:
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...and if you had a law degree YOU would understand that saying something as BLATANTLY stupid as "due to a bad law" gives anyone the right to ignore it.
actually, in the field, we often use the term of art "bad law"...
you stupidly put in "a bad law" but if you look back you will see you are too dumb to even quote me word for word...

So i guess its clear you were not corporate counsel for GE...

but do keep trying...I like bopping you on top of your head like this...

so what did you do at GE?
straight shooter

Montpelier, VT

#153 Jan 29, 2013
snyper wrote:
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Sure we have. We've commented a lot on bisexual women.
so bisexual know includes women who are repulsed by lesbians?
Jane Dodo

Hoboken, NJ

#154 Jan 29, 2013
straight shooter wrote:
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sure after you explain:
1. who my client is?
2. how an atty/client relationship was formed?
3. where I took part or advised them to do anything?
You dance funny when you're moving the goal posts.

Since: Mar 09

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#155 Jan 29, 2013
straight shooter wrote:
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so bisexual know includes women who are repulsed by lesbians?
That's called "Object Displacement".
Jane Dodo

Hoboken, NJ

#156 Jan 29, 2013
straight shooter wrote:
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actually, in the field, we often use the term of art "bad law"...
you stupidly put in "a bad law" but if you look back you will see you are too dumb to even quote me word for word...
"due to bad law which told her she had to give up her natural baby to her old partner who was not biologically related..."

Wanna try that again? Or are you really attempting to say you did not use "due to bad law"?
Jane Dodo

Hoboken, NJ

#157 Jan 29, 2013
straight shooter wrote:
So i guess its clear you were not corporate counsel for GE...
but do keep trying...I like bopping you on top of your head like this...
I guess it's also clear I was not a brain surgeon for GE, since I never claimed to be either one.

You need coffee, dude. You're losing focus and your desperation is showing.
straight shooter

Montpelier, VT

#158 Jan 29, 2013
Jane Dodo wrote:
<quoted text>
"due to bad law which told her she had to give up her natural baby to her old partner who was not biologically related..."
Wanna try that again? Or are you really attempting to say you did not use "due to bad law"?
no idiot, I already told you "bad law" is a term of art...
and thank you for proving you misquoting me and are too dumb to do a two word, word for word, quote.

you made it "a bad law" making it as dumb as you are!
straight shooter

Montpelier, VT

#159 Jan 29, 2013
Jane Dodo wrote:
<quoted text> I guess it's also clear I was not a brain surgeon for GE, since I never claimed to be either one.
You need coffee, dude. You're losing focus and your desperation is showing.
is that like you misquoting me and being ignorant of a term of art?

1. So, what job did you do for GE?

2. Who are you really trying to impress with all that icon BS?

I am proud you would waste tens of hours of your life insisting I am not a lawyer...
sure makes you pathetic though...
how about a few more times?

or just play with the icons sweetie...
straight shooter

Montpelier, VT

#160 Jan 29, 2013
Jane Dodo wrote:
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You dance funny when you're moving the goal posts.
nice try fraud boy..
In other words, none of what you posted applies...whodathuinkit?
oh right, me!

Yup you are DUMB AND predictable!

so I'll ask again, what did my suggestion I would run to save my biological child have to do with ANYTHING you posted?

I'm waiting fraud-boy you aren't dodging this you clod!
straight shooter

Montpelier, VT

#161 Jan 29, 2013
Jane Dodo wrote:
<quoted text> I guess it's also clear I was not a brain surgeon for GE,.
you are no brain surgeon that's for sure..
I doubt you worked at GE, I mean you lie about everything else...
How do you feel knowing you have spent at lest 20 hours insisting I am not a lawyer with no effect?
you should feel stupid.
Jane Dodo

Hoboken, NJ

#162 Jan 29, 2013
straight shooter wrote:
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no idiot, I already told you "bad law" is a term of art...
and thank you for proving you misquoting me and are too dumb to do a two word, word for word, quote.
you made it "a bad law" making it as dumb as you are!
You have GOT to be kidding me. <shakes head>

You can add "art" but I can't add "a".... I think I understand....
Jane Dodo

Hoboken, NJ

#163 Jan 29, 2013
straight shooter wrote:
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you are no brain surgeon that's for sure..
I doubt you worked at GE, I mean you lie about everything else...
How do you feel knowing you have spent at lest 20 hours insisting I am not a lawyer with no effect?
you should feel stupid.
You have no evidence, silly boy.
Jane Dodo

Hoboken, NJ

#164 Jan 29, 2013
straight shooter wrote:
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nice try fraud boy..
In other words, none of what you posted applies...whodathuinkit?
oh right, me!
Yup you are DUMB AND predictable!
so I'll ask again, what did my suggestion I would run to save my biological child have to do with ANYTHING you posted?
I'm waiting fraud-boy you aren't dodging this you clod!
Yep.... I catch you in yet another logical fallacy and I'm dumb. Got it.

Perhaps you should attempt to erase your posts before they get rubbed in your face again.

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