Romney Is President

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IT makes sense that Mitt Romney and his advisers are still gobsmacked by the fact that they're not commandeering the West Wing.
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LOL That was 'one' of the lies Romney wanted you to believe. Ask his campaign staff that he stiffed. He cancelled all their credit cards right after his concession speech. Real presidential.
Why wouldn't he? if they are on the payroll they should have expected the job to be over when the campaign was. Why let them run up credit cards after he gave up the run? So they wouldn't badmouth him and run up a bunch of charges at strip clubs and casinos? Maybe if he was a democrat he would have let them throw a vegas party and dumped the charges on the taxpayers like his own GSA. Difference between a businessman and a politician buying votes.

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* like obamas gsa
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mikejw6844 wrote:
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Why wouldn't he? if they are on the payroll they should have expected the job to be over when the campaign was. Why let them run up credit cards after he gave up the run? So they wouldn't badmouth him and run up a bunch of charges at strip clubs and casinos? Maybe if he was a democrat he would have let them throw a vegas party and dumped the charges on the taxpayers like his own GSA. Difference between a businessman and a politician buying votes.
Wow, dude........ you are BITTER.
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Cafe Monica wrote:
Romney wanted to give people an opportunity to succeed.
Obama offered them food stamps
Who won?
It says a lot about the deadbeats who voted for Obama
Doesn't it say more about the number of deadbeats (as you call them) in America. The majority of Americans in fact, by your reasoning.

Who exactly was Romney offering success to? People who already have a foot on the success ladder, thats who.

Does that mean that those at the bottom don't deserve a chance? What happened to the right of every American to pursue happiness.

It appears to me (and the rest of the outside world) that Obama is offering hope to all those who have been forgotten in America.

America used to pride itself on that. Now its seems as though the 'haves' don't feel they have a duty to help the 'have nots'.
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mikejw6844 wrote:
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Why wouldn't he? if they are on the payroll they should have expected the job to be over when the campaign was. Why let them run up credit cards after he gave up the run? So they wouldn't badmouth him and run up a bunch of charges at strip clubs and casinos? Maybe if he was a democrat he would have let them throw a vegas party and dumped the charges on the taxpayers like his own GSA. Difference between a businessman and a politician buying votes.
You don't stiff your staff with hotel bills, meal tabs and cab fares. Read the news, that's exactly what he did. Hillary didn't do it, she asked for donations after her campaign to pay her staff. NO one in history seeking the presidency has EVER behaved in such a CHEAP shitty way!

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You don't stiff your staff with hotel bills, meal tabs and cab fares. Read the news, that's exactly what he did. Hillary didn't do it, she asked for donations after her campaign to pay her staff. NO one in history seeking the presidency has EVER behaved in such a CHEAP shitty way!
I'd be willing to bet the ranch that at this very moment, Romney has his tax man at work amending that return from 2011 to deduct the rest of his charity gifts, probably bringing down that 14% tax bill to about 11%.
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I'd be willing to bet the ranch that at this very moment, Romney has his tax man at work amending that return from 2011 to deduct the rest of his charity gifts, probably bringing down that 14% tax bill to about 11%.
Yep..And they still believe lying 'Mr. Out Source' would have been a good choice to create jobs.

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Wow, dude........ you are BITTER.
You're right I'm bitter! I'm a single dad of three girls who never got any govt help. So next time you're buying ramen noodles on your own dime behind two young people tattooed up and dressed up in designer clothes buying pizza and soda on food stamps maybe you will understand my point of view. I vote for what is best for this country, not for what is best for me

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>...Romney was conducting a missionary tour during Viet Nam. Big deal....<

Rmoney was living in the South of France, where "missionary tours" are not really necessary. I don't consider that any deprivation.
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mikejw6844 wrote:
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You're right I'm bitter! I'm a single dad of three girls who never got any govt help. So next time you're buying ramen noodles on your own dime behind two young people tattooed up and dressed up in designer clothes buying pizza and soda on food stamps maybe you will understand my point of view. I vote for what is best for this country, not for what is best for me
I understand your point of view, it's called ENVY.

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You're right I'm bitter! I'm a single dad of three girls who never got any govt help. So next time you're buying ramen noodles on your own dime behind two young people tattooed up and dressed up in designer clothes buying pizza and soda on food stamps maybe you will understand my point of view. I vote for what is best for this country, not for what is best for me
And you were lucky that you were able to feed your girls without help. Not everyone is that lucky. If you had lost your job, and your girls were hungry, you would have had your hand out for help. Not because you were a moocher, or lazy, but because they meant more to you than pride.

And that's what it's like for most people on assistance. I know quite a few - more than I used to.

And the majority of those receiving food stamps and such right now are the WORKING poor, not freeloading youth.

If the earned income credit, food assistance, and mortgage interest credits were ended today, it would not be the Moochers that suffer, but middle class working families.

If medicare was "voucherized" today, the elderly would suffer.

Let's face it, Romeny/Ryan ticket was not there to support and lift the middle class. Their belief that by support and lifting the rich, enough would trickle down to everyone else SCARED too many in this country.

If Romney had been able to be the center right candidate that I think he really was, he would have had a better chance to snag more of the moderate vote. That he needed to play "seriously conservative" to get his party's nomination, and his attachment of Ryan to his ticket, scared too many people. Myself included.

I suspect the Republicans will learn from this one, and start squelching the extreme radicals in their party for the next go round. The younger ones already seem to be taking this track. And that can only be good for the country.
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And you were lucky that you were able to feed your girls without help. Not everyone is that lucky. If you had lost your job, and your girls were hungry, you would have had your hand out for help. Not because you were a moocher, or lazy, but because they meant more to you than pride.
And that's what it's like for most people on assistance. I know quite a few - more than I used to.
And the majority of those receiving food stamps and such right now are the WORKING poor, not freeloading youth.
If the earned income credit, food assistance, and mortgage interest credits were ended today, it would not be the Moochers that suffer, but middle class working families.
If medicare was "voucherized" today, the elderly would suffer.
Let's face it, Romeny/Ryan ticket was not there to support and lift the middle class. Their belief that by support and lifting the rich, enough would trickle down to everyone else SCARED too many in this country.
If Romney had been able to be the center right candidate that I think he really was, he would have had a better chance to snag more of the moderate vote. That he needed to play "seriously conservative" to get his party's nomination, and his attachment of Ryan to his ticket, scared too many people. Myself included.
I suspect the Republicans will learn from this one, and start squelching the extreme radicals in their party for the next go round. The younger ones already seem to be taking this track. And that can only be good for the country.
A very cogent and insightful post! Such a rarity that I almost dismissed it. Thank you.

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Quest wrote:
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And you were lucky that you were able to feed your girls without help. Not everyone is that lucky. If you had lost your job, and your girls were hungry, you would have had your hand out for help. Not because you were a moocher, or lazy, but because they meant more to you than pride.
And that's what it's like for most people on assistance. I know quite a few - more than I used to.
And the majority of those receiving food stamps and such right now are the WORKING poor, not freeloading youth.
If the earned income credit, food assistance, and mortgage interest credits were ended today, it would not be the Moochers that suffer, but middle class working families.
If medicare was "voucherized" today, the elderly would suffer.
Let's face it, Romeny/Ryan ticket was not there to support and lift the middle class. Their belief that by support and lifting the rich, enough would trickle down to everyone else SCARED too many in this country.
If Romney had been able to be the center right candidate that I think he really was, he would have had a better chance to snag more of the moderate vote. That he needed to play "seriously conservative" to get his party's nomination, and his attachment of Ryan to his ticket, scared too many people. Myself included.
I suspect the Republicans will learn from this one, and start squelching the extreme radicals in their party for the next go round. The younger ones already seem to be taking this track. And that can only be good for the country.
I've always been thankful I have a job and and healthy enough to do it, that's not my point. My point is too many people are taking advantage of a program and it is draining the country. Rich people already pay more taxes, they might have loopholes to avoid paying as much, but it's mortgage int, eic, and tax credits for dependents that allow roughly half of the taxpayers in this country to get back all (or more in the case of eic) of the taxes they paid in. I'm not trying to champion the rich, but they already pay more than most.Maybe I'm in a blessed part of the country, because if I lost my job I just found another. If I was hurting for money I found a better job. I'm not rich, but I'm not going to villify wealthy people to make myself feel better. Maybe I am a little envious of those taking advantage of the system, one of my daughters wants a laptop for christmas, I could afford a really good one if I didnt have to pay for my own food

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Rmoney is president of the shithouse. See how fast they are throwing him under the bus today?
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Romney ain't shyte...this forum is another white lie.
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Quest wrote:
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And you were lucky that you were able to feed your girls without help. Not everyone is that lucky. If you had lost your job, and your girls were hungry, you would have had your hand out for help. Not because you were a moocher, or lazy, but because they meant more to you than pride.
And that's what it's like for most people on assistance. I know quite a few - more than I used to.
And the majority of those receiving food stamps and such right now are the WORKING poor, not freeloading youth.
If the earned income credit, food assistance, and mortgage interest credits were ended today, it would not be the Moochers that suffer, but middle class working families.
If medicare was "voucherized" today, the elderly would suffer.
Let's face it, Romeny/Ryan ticket was not there to support and lift the middle class. Their belief that by support and lifting the rich, enough would trickle down to everyone else SCARED too many in this country.
If Romney had been able to be the center right candidate that I think he really was, he would have had a better chance to snag more of the moderate vote. That he needed to play "seriously conservative" to get his party's nomination, and his attachment of Ryan to his ticket, scared too many people. Myself included.
I suspect the Republicans will learn from this one, and start squelching the extreme radicals in their party for the next go round. The younger ones already seem to be taking this track. And that can only be good for the country.
The elderly would not suffer if they made Medicare into vouchers. It would give poor old people full free coverage. Only those who have other incomes retired would have to pay a bit of their own costs for health care. Most of the nation's wealth is in the hands of old people and they are the ones on the government pensions and SS and Medicare. Older people receive 7 times more money from the government than a young person on welfare does.

The government should have made Medicare into vouchers back in the 1980s when advanced medical care came along because it is so expensive, and when the government saw people living 20-40 years longer on Medicare. That's why Medicare has 80 TRILLION in unfunded promises, it is on the National Debt Clock. So there is NO way to pay the baby boomers Medicare. You would have to come up with about $4 trillion per year just for Medicare for the baby boomers. It is killing the country to have $121 trillion in unfunded liabilities in Social Security and Medicare and vouchers would put an end to the huge unfunded liabilities in Medicare. It is a good solution. People can't expect to spend all of their money while they work and then live for decades on the government and on government health care. It's not paid for, that's why the entitlements have massive unfunded liabilities. the vouchers would still give poor older people full free coverage, but it would make those who can afford to pay a bit themselves take some financial responsiblity for their own retirements. It's a really good idea.
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Pamela wrote:
<quoted text>The elderly would not suffer if they made Medicare into vouchers. It would give poor old people full free coverage.
are you nuts? The whole idea is to replace coverage with coupons.
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It is actually $105 TRILLION of unfunded liabilities in Medicare. OMG. Take a damned voucher and shut the hell up already. How much money do you think everyone would have to pay in taxation to come up with about $4 trillion each year to pay the baby boomers Medicare?? You need a 25 percent national sales tax that everyone always pays to come up with that kind of money and I do not know if even with that you could get $4 trillion a year in new tax money. That is a heavy, heavy lift. And the joke is this is your tea party asking for the biggest welfare grab in the history of the world and the stuff they want forces the nation into European style taxation.
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