Once more on fascism knocking on the Balkan doors by Hajrudin S...

There are a few reasons driving me to tackle for the second time in a year the phenomenon of increasing neo-fascist and neo-Nazi sentiment and activity in the southeastern parts of Europe. Full Story

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Since: Sep 13

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#1226 Sep 3, 2014
Vitez wrote:
In case you don't feel like reading the above: I will summarize it for you.
I am against Imperialism, and the very existence of Israel, since the day it was founded, is the Number One example of sneaky, greedy, disgusting, opportunistic imperialism by Western Countries who only care about their own selfish interests, and they sacrificed the Arabs for their Victory in WW1.
Read about this!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declarat...
"The British did not know quite what to make of President Woodrow Wilson and his conviction (before America's entrance into the war) that the way to end hostilities was for both sides to accept "peace without victory." Two of Wilson's closest advisors, Louis Brandeis and Felix Frankfurter, were avid Zionists. How better to shore up an uncertain ally than by endorsing Zionist aims? The British adopted similar thinking when it came to the Russians, who were in the midst of their revolution. Several of the most prominent revolutionaries, including Leon Trotsky, were of Jewish descent. Why not see if they could be persuaded to keep Russia in the war by appealing to their latent Jewishness and giving them another reason to continue the fight?" ... These include not only those already mentioned but also Britain's desire to attract Jewish financial resources.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declarat...
You see Mr Cro Pockets? You see on whose side you are on? Are those "CroPockets" of yours filled with Petrodollars?
Why wouldn't I read your comment? You read mine so I show the same respect.

Israel is imperialistic...how? I think if Israel wanted to expand further, they could have taken land and successfully held it against the half dozen nations that invaded them and lost virtually any chance to implement a counter-offensive. That goes for Egypt, Syria, Jordan, hell even Iraq. Sections of territory in said nations could have been absolved rather easily with practically no resistance if Israel was so keen on expanding her imperial goals. But that wasn't the case or Israel's intentions, just like it isn't now.

I know all about the Balfour Declaration. Israel and the Middle East is a conflict that has been raging for the better part of 2,000 years...no Western culture will ever understand what it takes to instill peace there, because it is just simply not possible. Not to mention it is a concept that Western cultures just cannot understand. Anytime they intervene with matters outside of their one-tracked minded culture they just end up complicating or botching the issue even more.

So because a nation will appeal to another's culture or religion that makes it entirely unique and applies ONLY to this instance of their "Jewishness"? Yeah because that's not a political tactic that has been used by nations all over the world since the beginning of time. Tell me Vitez who's pockets aren't filled with the petrodollar in the end? Petrodollar to the Euro, Euro to the Ruble, Ruble to the Yuan, and right back around again in no specified order. I am entirely positive the economy of Hungary is as dependent on the petrodollar as much as myself or any other poster might be, it's just not always so obvious. You have to see the quick, deceiving change of hands from one to the other; it's like watching a magician at work ;)

Since: Mar 14

Hungary

#1227 Sep 3, 2014
It is very late here, so I will be going.

But I leave you with one thought: you assume one major thing,, and that is the fact that the German Yiddish hybrids are exactly the same as the original Hebrews.

In reality, the origins of today's so called Jews are extremely dubious. Some say they are Khazars, others say they come from the area of Rhineland in Germany. Who knows?

Their whole sensationalist "we are the chosen tribes of God" has as much credibility as the Nazi Aryan theory, the Serbian "nebeski narod" theory , etc. All are just twists to give legitimacy to ones actions.

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Since: Sep 13

Location hidden

#1228 Sep 3, 2014
Vitez wrote:
You said this a million times before....
The part about Saudi Arabia caught my eye though.
We really must live on different planets, because on the one Iive in, Saudi Arabia is a loyal puppet of USA, and a collaborator with Israel who does not make a single peep about the Palestinian cause.
Remember CroPockets, action speak louder than words.
The only Arab state that dares to be against Israel is Syria, and for this they are being punished by the whole world sending their terrorists there to topple Mr Assad.
And what religious bias? Let me guess, I am a Bosnian Muslim now or what?
Lol. I know I have said this before. And yet I still need to repeat myself.

Collaborator with Israel? No, just because Saudi Arabia doesn't rattle the sabre with Israel doesn't mean they "collaborate" lol. Officially, the government isn't taking a stance over the issue but just take a gander at the outrage by the Saudi people over Israel. I'm fairly certain the government isn't on the opposite side of the line as her own people. Doesn't usually work that way, especially in political bodies that centre their governments on a religious foundation.

Syria? Bashar al Assad is one of the most pro Western leaders Syria has had. This makes me chuckle, because under Assad Israel has had the least amount of conflict with Syria since 1948. And I suppose you are referring to ISIS? Well, I know we have shared somewhat similar views of the West, while perhaps I find myself not as harsh. But where this discrepancy occurs between us is that I don't believe Israel is included in the mix. As I said, Israel has been a wild card for the United States and not exactly keen on playing along with her political ideals. ISIS established by the West? I believe it. Israel? Now we are getting a little far-fetched, right down to the very motive of establishing something so extreme seems to be counter-productive to Israel's well being.
No, I don't think you are a Bosnian Muslim. You say you are Hungarian, I believe you until I see strong evidence that suggests otherwise. I just think you are sympathetic not to Palestine, but Islamic tenets. You have implied this before as well, maybe not intentionally, but I saw the favouritism none the less. And I truly don't care if you do, but when religious bias starts to cloud an issue that shouldn't involve it, it leaves me seeing the fact that you are supporting the faith not the issue at hand.
PARAGA

Australia

#1229 Sep 4, 2014
Jooosh04 wrote:
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*Bok
"Sexually exploited"is a generic umbrella term that can apply to a lot of things, like these poor girls being molested, being blackmailed/groomed or even threatened to perform sexual acts, and there were even instances of rape by your definition of the word. Whatever happened to them doesn't excuse the fact that they were vulnerable, young teenage girls who were exploited. Imagine if your daughter had been "sexually exploited", would that make you feel better for her?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-28949188
Your so blinded by your hatred towards the Serbs to see that this has nothing to do with them. The rape of Muslim women in Bosnia has nothing to do with what has happened to these teens 20+ years later in another country. I don't hate Muslims, and I have never said anything derogatory towards Muslims in my entirety on this forum, I have many Muslim friends, work colleagues and peers whom I respect. But the fact is that this could have been prevented years ago, but the girls involved, the council and members of the South Yorkshire police were too scared to press charges or pursue cases in case they were branded as "racists", such is the nature of the weak British/Western bureaucracy and red-tape towards minorities, in this case, Pakistani Muslims.
Again. you're going completely off-topic, turning what should be girls getting justice for being abused, and twisting it into a Serb bashing fest. Croats killed and raped many Muslims during the war too, as they did to us.
Ajde, bok
I hate serbs and jugoslavs
Hungarian 101

Europe

#1230 Sep 4, 2014
Bang!
Attention seeker on the prowl.
Come on, paraga, please leave topix!

“Make burek, not war”

Since: Oct 13

Costa del Coventry

#1231 Sep 4, 2014
PARAGA wrote:
<quoted text>
I hate serbs and jugoslavs
Serbs and Jugoslavs hate you too.....

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Since: Sep 13

Location hidden

#1232 Sep 4, 2014
Jooosh04 wrote:
<quoted text>
Serbs and Jugoslavs hate you too.....
I'm lost as to what he considers "Jugoslavs". He makes it sound like being a Jugoslav is it's own ethnicity, instead of entirely being a political orientation which it is. He is always making comments about "big-nosed Jugoslavs" and it cracks me up like they have their own genetic traits or some nonsense.

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Since: Sep 13

Location hidden

#1233 Sep 4, 2014
Hungarian 101 wrote:
Bang!
Attention seeker on the prowl.
Come on, paraga, please leave topix!
Hahaha. He loves us all too much. He would have no one else to talk to :/
Adi

Craiova, Romania

#1234 Sep 4, 2014
Vitez wrote:
It is very late here, so I will be going.
But I leave you with one thought: you assume one major thing,, and that is the fact that the German Yiddish hybrids are exactly the same as the original Hebrews.
In reality, the origins of today's so called Jews are extremely dubious. Some say they are Khazars, others say they come from the area of Rhineland in Germany. Who knows?
Their whole sensationalist "we are the chosen tribes of God" has as much credibility as the Nazi Aryan theory, the Serbian "nebeski narod" theory , etc. All are just twists to give legitimacy to ones actions.
Actually Jesus is born there = Jew.
And they are the chosen people. If you don't accept it then you are an atheist or even an antichristian.
For the rest of the story you should read the Bible. Jesus is not born Magyar, not Romanian, not German and He said He is the Son of God. Believe it or not ( i do ), but this is the story and there is no other way to deal with it, other than: atheism or antichristianism.
By the way, Jesus is not just a prophet ( just - according to Islam ) and according to the Holly Bible this is a lie and anti-God. Telling that Jesus is JUST a prophet, a teacher, it is exactly the same what His killers said and the reason of His crucification. So, those who say that Jesus is Just a prophet crucify Him again. But they are losing.
Adi

Craiova, Romania

#1235 Sep 4, 2014
Corrections for line 7: atheism/anti-christianism or christianity .

Since: Mar 14

Hungary

#1236 Sep 4, 2014
CroPockets, lame attempt to discredit my views by painting me as some kind of "islamophile". I could do similar to you (crypto Jew, assimilated, part Jew, etc), but I won't.
My stance is not due to religion, but out of politics (I thought I made this abundantly clear).

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Since: Sep 13

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#1237 Sep 4, 2014
Vitez wrote:
CroPockets, lame attempt to discredit my views by painting me as some kind of "islamophile". I could do similar to you (crypto Jew, assimilated, part Jew, etc), but I won't.
My stance is not due to religion, but out of politics (I thought I made this abundantly clear).
Really Vitez? That attitude necessary? I was having a perfectly civil conversation with you, I did not insult just told you what I have inferred from your opinions based on your previous statements regarding Islam the most respectful way possible. I told you I could care less of your preference, that's your choice. You keep reiterating its not religious bias just politics, yet you make comments regarding Jews being sneaky and subversive, or that they revel the fact that they are "the chosen people of God". I was talking about Israel not Jews, and the only reason I brought up the fact that Israeli Jews are not the same as their counterparts around the world was because you were consistently making negative comments about Jewish people and confusing the two. I am not trying to paint you as anything, just stating to you directly what I have inferred from your comments and attitude before, and your comments regarding this specific subject seem to highlight this fact as well.

And just for your information I have no reason to lie, ask any other poster and they will tell you the same. So whether you believe me or not, I have absolutely nothing to do with Jewish culture or ethnicity. I am not of the Jewish faith, and to my knowledge I don't have a drop of Jewish blood in me. And that is exactly my point. I have not brought up religion or defended Judaism once, I have kept everything related to the nation of Israel and her people in a political sense. Everyone has to take sides, and if they do it's usually because they have some personal investment to the issue. It's a joke. I defend Israel and the majority of her actions because of the reality of the circumstances and the historical truth, not out of any favouritism for the Jewish people or their religion. Simple as that Vitez, so you can take it or leave it I could care less if you believe I have an agenda or not.

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Since: Sep 13

Location hidden

#1238 Sep 4, 2014
Vitez wrote:
Re Croats and Islam. Didn't your poglavnik build what was at the time the biggest Mosque in Europe? Shame it wasnt a Synagogue..... 90% of topix would welcome it.
That's very interesting. What was done centuries ago is beyond my time, my father's time, and beyond my great grandfather's time. All I know is that 92 percent of Croats today are Christian, predominately Roman Catholic. That leaves a possible 8 percent to either Islam or Judaism, not a very hefty percent even if that number consists entirely of one or the other. So I don't know why you assume there is a heavy Muslim presence in more recent/modern Croatian history.

“Make burek, not war”

Since: Oct 13

Costa del Coventry

#1239 Sep 4, 2014
Mr Cro Pockets wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm lost as to what he considers "Jugoslavs". He makes it sound like being a Jugoslav is it's own ethnicity, instead of entirely being a political orientation which it is. He is always making comments about "big-nosed Jugoslavs" and it cracks me up like they have their own genetic traits or some nonsense.
I know, he's not even being original with the whole "Jugoslav" spiel, it's the catchphrase of every Ustase-wannabee. The idea that every Croat that doesn't want to French-kiss the Swastika on a daily basis makes him/her a Yugoslav, or heaven forbid, a Serb. Oh yeah, the "big nose" is hilarious, because EVERYBODY knows a Yugoslav is nearby by the size of his schnoz, lol.

I assume from his bitchiness today that his fairytale princess party didn't go so well. Nobody turned up again I bet :D They were all "washing their hair" lol.

Since: Mar 14

Hungary

#1240 Sep 4, 2014
"Strong Israel" was humiliated by the Lebanese Resistance Movement several times, and only just recently they failed to achieve their objectives against little Gaza defended by the most primitive of weapons.

That is why they are using their proxy, the "Islamic State" to do their dirty work, keep their neighbours weak, divided and in chaos.

Saudis and Israeli's share the exact same goals, and do plenty of deals away from prying eyes.
MrCroPockets, your mistake is to take things at face value. To get to the real truth (and not the truth the media or politicians want you to believe), you must dig deep and get your hands dirty.

As for my previous post, there wasn't any intentional "attitude", so I am sorry you saw it that way.
I never implied that you are of Jewish stock, I know you are not (at least this is what I believe). I just said accusing you of being a Jew would make as much sense as you accusing me of being an "islamophile" or whatever.

“Make burek, not war”

Since: Oct 13

Costa del Coventry

#1241 Sep 4, 2014
Vitez wrote:
"Strong Israel" was humiliated by the Lebanese Resistance Movement several times, and only just recently they failed to achieve their objectives against little Gaza defended by the most primitive of weapons.
That is why they are using their proxy, the "Islamic State" to do their dirty work, keep their neighbours weak, divided and in chaos.
Saudis and Israeli's share the exact same goals, and do plenty of deals away from prying eyes.
MrCroPockets, your mistake is to take things at face value. To get to the real truth (and not the truth the media or politicians want you to believe), you must dig deep and get your hands dirty.
As for my previous post, there wasn't any intentional "attitude", so I am sorry you saw it that way.
I never implied that you are of Jewish stock, I know you are not (at least this is what I believe). I just said accusing you of being a Jew would make as much sense as you accusing me of being an "islamophile" or whatever.
Israel hasn't failed any of it's strategic objectives. To Israel's knowledge, the terror tunnels have been eradicated, Hamas has been bloodied by the loss of dozens of high-priority leaders and a truce was forcibly signed. Were it not for the west flapping its arms at the civilian death toll, Israel could wipe Gaza out in 5 minutes flat. What has Hamas gained? Oh, they can go slightly further out to sea to fish and they have had an embargo on construction materials lifted. So Hamas fought Israel for fish and cement? Right........

“Make burek, not war”

Since: Oct 13

Costa del Coventry

#1242 Sep 4, 2014
Mr Cro Pockets wrote:
<quoted text>
Why wouldn't I read your comment? You read mine so I show the same respect.
Israel is imperialistic...how? I think if Israel wanted to expand further, they could have taken land and successfully held it against the half dozen nations that invaded them and lost virtually any chance to implement a counter-offensive. That goes for Egypt, Syria, Jordan, hell even Iraq. Sections of territory in said nations could have been absolved rather easily with practically no resistance if Israel was so keen on expanding her imperial goals. But that wasn't the case or Israel's intentions, just like it isn't now.
I know all about the Balfour Declaration. Israel and the Middle East is a conflict that has been raging for the better part of 2,000 years...no Western culture will ever understand what it takes to instill peace there, because it is just simply not possible. Not to mention it is a concept that Western cultures just cannot understand. Anytime they intervene with matters outside of their one-tracked minded culture they just end up complicating or botching the issue even more.
So because a nation will appeal to another's culture or religion that makes it entirely unique and applies ONLY to this instance of their "Jewishness"? Yeah because that's not a political tactic that has been used by nations all over the world since the beginning of time. Tell me Vitez who's pockets aren't filled with the petrodollar in the end? Petrodollar to the Euro, Euro to the Ruble, Ruble to the Yuan, and right back around again in no specified order. I am entirely positive the economy of Hungary is as dependent on the petrodollar as much as myself or any other poster might be, it's just not always so obvious. You have to see the quick, deceiving change of hands from one to the other; it's like watching a magician at work ;)
The funny thing about the Balfour Declaration is that Britain promised the same thing to the Arabs during the 1917 revolt against the Ottomans. Appealing to Arab Nationalists with an "all Arab state" stretching from Allepo to Sanaa, sending in Lawrence of Arabia to keep them sweet against the Turks. If you ask me, Britain bares the brunt of the guilt for rivalries we see today, the Jews and Muslims were just pawns used by the British to fight the Central Powers, Jewish money and political leverage and Muslim/Arab manpower.

Since: Mar 14

Hungary

#1243 Sep 4, 2014
Jooosh04 wrote:
<quoted text>
The funny thing about the Balfour Declaration is that Britain promised the same thing to the Arabs during the 1917 revolt against the Ottomans. Appealing to Arab Nationalists with an "all Arab state" stretching from Allepo to Sanaa, sending in Lawrence of Arabia to keep them sweet against the Turks. If you ask me, Britain bares the brunt of the guilt for rivalries we see today, the Jews and Muslims were just pawns used by the British to fight the Central Powers, Jewish money and political leverage and Muslim/Arab manpower.
We dont agree on everything, but this is spot on.
Adi

Craiova, Romania

#1244 Sep 4, 2014
Vitez, better tell us that you fell in love with an arab girl :) ...

“Make burek, not war”

Since: Oct 13

Costa del Coventry

#1245 Sep 4, 2014
Vitez wrote:
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We dont agree on everything, but this is spot on.
Cheers, bud.

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