Ky. gay marriage ruling looks to prec...

Ky. gay marriage ruling looks to precedents

There are 821 comments on the WSFA-TV Montgomery story from Feb 13, 2014, titled Ky. gay marriage ruling looks to precedents. In it, WSFA-TV Montgomery reports that:

Greg Bourke, front, and his partner Michael Deleon speak to reporters following the announcement from U.S. LOUISVILLE, Ky.

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“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#876 Apr 29, 2014
Civil marriage is a contract WITH THE GOVERNMENT; they're gonna have a say in what that contract entails.

Who the hell is Nancy Polosey?
Reverend Alan wrote:
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What "evidence" to the contrary? The government has no business deciding for us what a marriage is. They should instead protect our right to make those personal decisions for ourselves. But that would mean giving up some of their control over us, some of their power and they would not be able to micromanage our lives like they do now.
Do you really believe that the likes of Chris Christie knows how you should live your life better than you do? Or Prom Queen Nancy Polosey? Would you even trust her to walk across the street with a dime of your money? Yet you allow them to define your marriage for you. If that isn't insanity what would be?

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#877 Apr 29, 2014
Frankie uses stereotypical epithets which insult gays in general; my contempt for you is purely personal--which you cannot deal with, because you're immature.

Since most drug laws at street level are state laws, Obama has no say in them. Again you demonstrate your total ignorance of how the government works. Nor do you understand what being an atheist means; it's not a political term.

I don't ask anyone to tell me what to do. I do recognize that laws exist and that the other side of "equal protection" is "equal culpability." I do not ignore laws, but I have certainly fought against some in my day. You've done nothing but whine and lay around, a useless slug.

I'm no slave, and neither are you. But I'm not a self-centered toddler with orientation issues, unlike you.
Reverend Alan wrote:
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Your assertions are non-responsive. You can say black is white all you want but it does not change the truth. You complain about Frankie calling you fruitloops yet you call me much worse and more often.
You are as insane as our President who smoked pot and now puts more blacks in prison for doing the exact same thing than were put into slavery. And you worship that government he represents. It is your God. Some atheist you are. All you have done is reject the God of the Bible and replaced it with Government. Instead of the church telling you what to do, you asked the Government to tell you what to do instead.
And that would be fine for yourself alone, but you insist those criminal scumbags in Washington micromanage all our lives as well. If you want to be a slave, fine, but stop trying to make those of us who love freedom and liberty slaves right alone side you. It is immoral to do so.

Since: Feb 09

Location hidden

#878 Apr 29, 2014
EdmondWA wrote:
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Unless you need someone to pave your roads, or police your neighborhoods, or deliver your mail, or insist on safe cooking practices in restaurants, or regulate what goes into prescription medicine, or ensure that high-rises have wheelchair ramps, or provide for the safety and comfort of 300,000,000 people. THEN it's okay to insanely rant against the government while simultaneously taking advantage of everything it does for you.
Private enterprise can pave our roads. The government does a terrible job of maintaining them. Some communities have private police and they are much happier, so far none of their children have been murdered by the cops nor have the private cops been involved in drug scandals, like you see on the nightly news with government law enforcement. And you are a moron if you believe that 300,000,000 people are safe and comfortable. Go tell that fable to all the homeless who go to bed hungry each night in some doorway in some alley.

Oh yes our wonderful Government where our President spends $20 million of our dollars on vacations while poor people suffer daily. I can see how you would be all for that.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#879 Apr 29, 2014
The entire country was FOUNDED on the notion of fairness and equality. It resonates in every line and every word of the constitution. You have no ideas; you have bumper-sticker slogans with NO thought behind them.

I never said laws end racism; that's just an example of your stupidity. You can be as racist as you want, but you can't impact other peoples' lives or rights over it. In the end, I don't care if a shopkeeper hates me for being gay as long as I can get what I want from that business--a public accommodation.
Reverend Alan wrote:
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The more insulting you are comrade peter the more I know you can not answer or refute my posts. You are an authoritarian and anyone with any intelligence knows that describes you to a "T".
And you are lying, you do NOT choose what is important, you gave that over to the government to decide for you. And decide they do! They have made 2.5 million decisions about your life and you support them and refuse to see their criminal activities. You are worse than the Christians lying about their God when you lie about your God, the Government.
If you want to be a slave fine, but you are not going to make the rest of us slaves. We are fighting back with ideas about freedom and liberty to defeat your socialistic nonsense about fairness and equality. Nothing is ever fair and Government can not make life fair and bring us equality.
You want us to believe that the CRA brought an end to discrimination, well look around you, racism is alive and well in America. Your stupid laws don't work and you need to stop insisting they do.

Since: Feb 09

Location hidden

#880 Apr 29, 2014
cpeter1313 wrote:
Civil marriage is a contract WITH THE GOVERNMENT; they're gonna have a say in what that contract entails.
Who the hell is Nancy Polosey?
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U.S. Representative Nancy Pelosi for California's 12th district.

You knew that of course, but since you can't refute me you have to point out typo's instead.

Why you want the government involved in your marriage is a huge mystery to me. Is it that you do not know what to do and need the government to tell you? Rather than involve the government you might want to ask your friends how to be married. Or better yet ask topix trolls who would love to tell you want to do.

PS. Tell me it wasn't a typo so you can make yourself look even more stupid and prove further that you can't refute me.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#881 Apr 29, 2014
Civil marriage establishes legal protections and responsibilities for the two people involved. When a spouse marries again without divorce, it abrogates the rights of the first spouse to the conditions of that contract. I also creates a contradictory contract with the second spouse, which is legally void from the start--meaning it removes the rights of the second spouse who entered into it in good faith.

You know NOTHING about the law or why it exists. Now have your mother change your diaper and fill your ba-ba with margarita.
Reverend Alan wrote:
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Bigamy laws exist to give government power over our lives. You bought the lies hook line and sinker comrade peter. It is a delusional nightmare that government is looking our for your best interests when all government is looking out for is how to get more of our money and how to control us like cattle. You see reality backwards and you being a government apologist are an enemy of the freedom and liberty some people would like to enjoy.
You are just like all those scumbags you have been voting for.

Since: Feb 09

Location hidden

#882 Apr 29, 2014
cpeter1313 wrote:
Frankie uses stereotypical epithets which insult gays in general; my contempt for you is purely personal--which you cannot deal with, because you're immature.
Since most drug laws at street level are state laws, Obama has no say in them. Again you demonstrate your total ignorance of how the government works. Nor do you understand what being an atheist means; it's not a political term.
I don't ask anyone to tell me what to do. I do recognize that laws exist and that the other side of "equal protection" is "equal culpability." I do not ignore laws, but I have certainly fought against some in my day. You've done nothing but whine and lay around, a useless slug.
I'm no slave, and neither are you. But I'm not a self-centered toddler with orientation issues, unlike you.
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Blah blah blah, grow up. You worship the government and you hate freedom and liberty. You make that crystal clear in post after post. You are a slave and you beg your slave-master to be nice to you. How pathetic.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#883 Apr 29, 2014
Who is paying private enterprise to pave the roads?

Which communities with a sizable population have private police in place of city police? As you can see, they're a perfect solution:
http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Pri...

Excuse me, but YOU are sitting by the pool chugging booze while the homeless go to bed hungry. And not the food bank crap again...that's a temporary solution...a band-aid on a broken leg. You could lead a more austere lifestyle and open up some of those rental properties to those without homes.
Reverend Alan wrote:
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Private enterprise can pave our roads. The government does a terrible job of maintaining them. Some communities have private police and they are much happier, so far none of their children have been murdered by the cops nor have the private cops been involved in drug scandals, like you see on the nightly news with government law enforcement. And you are a moron if you believe that 300,000,000 people are safe and comfortable. Go tell that fable to all the homeless who go to bed hungry each night in some doorway in some alley.
Oh yes our wonderful Government where our President spends $20 million of our dollars on vacations while poor people suffer daily. I can see how you would be all for that.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#884 Apr 29, 2014
That wasn't a typo; that was your ignorance. A typo is a slip of a finger when typing; this was a clusterf**k of idiocy. You had no point about her to refute.

I had a 14-year relationship that was a marriage in all ways but legal. Why would I want the government involved? Because civil marriage carries legal protections not found in the alternatives. Why the hell do you think MOST people get a civil marriage, or fight for the right to one?

Bonus fact: Nothing in civil marriage laws tells you how to be married. The laws merely create the boundaries of the contract--a legal requirement for ALL contract law.
Reverend Alan wrote:
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U.S. Representative Nancy Pelosi for California's 12th district.
You knew that of course, but since you can't refute me you have to point out typo's instead.
Why you want the government involved in your marriage is a huge mystery to me. Is it that you do not know what to do and need the government to tell you? Rather than involve the government you might want to ask your friends how to be married. Or better yet ask topix trolls who would love to tell you want to do.
PS. Tell me it wasn't a typo so you can make yourself look even more stupid and prove further that you can't refute me.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#885 Apr 29, 2014
I don't beg for anything, and I'm far more likely to walk over your mangled body than to ask for anything. We weren't asking that our rights be recognized; we were demanding it.
Reverend Alan wrote:
<quoted text>
Blah blah blah, grow up. You worship the government and you hate freedom and liberty. You make that crystal clear in post after post. You are a slave and you beg your slave-master to be nice to you. How pathetic.

“Unconvinced”

Since: Nov 09

Seattle, WA

#886 Apr 29, 2014
Reverend Alan wrote:
Private enterprise can pave our roads.
Who will pay for it? Will they charge local residents? What if someone doesn't pay? Will they be forbidden to use the roads until they are out of arrears?

"Roads" are just one representative example of the entire infrastructure supported by our government; sewers, airports, dams, lighthouses, ports & canals, waste management, mass transit, schools... the list goes on. We can't turn to private enterprise for all this.
Reverend Alan wrote:
The government does a terrible job of maintaining them.
There are a lot of them. Budgets are tight.
Reverend Alan wrote:
Some communities have private police and they are much happier
Some communities are much wealthier. Of course they're much happier. Many communities could not afford private police.

Who sets the laws that these private police must follow? Can they make up their own? With no government, every private police force can make their own rules, and enforce them to any degree they feel. Who will stop them, if there is no government?
Reverend Alan wrote:
so far none of their children have been murdered by the cops nor have the private cops been involved in drug scandals, like you see on the nightly news with government law enforcement.
Just because you haven't SEEN it on the news, doesn't mean it isn't happening, or won't ever happen. A privatized security force would simply be much better in squelching its own scandals.
Reverend Alan wrote:
And you are a moron if you believe that 300,000,000 people are safe and comfortable. Go tell that fable to all the homeless who go to bed hungry each night in some doorway in some alley.
Can I tell it to the homeless people who don't BOTHER to take advantage of the programs that are in place to help them?

The government does its best to protect all those people. They're not all safe and comfortable at all times, but FAR more so than they would be with NO government. You don't REALLY think that lawlessness would vanish without laws, do you?
Reverend Alan wrote:
Oh yes our wonderful Government where our President spends $20 million of our dollars on vacations while poor people suffer daily. I can see how you would be all for that.
Oh, did someone tell you all about the multi-million-dollar presidential vacation resort that I own and operate? Sure, you know all about me and what I support.

I'm not defending the system as "perfect", but it's nothing but asinine to think that NO system at all would be better. What do you think would happen to the poor if there were no longer any such thing as CURRENCY? Wealth would be determined by whoever could amass the largest stockpiles of material goods, or the most weapons. Your private police forces would turn into the personal militias of warlords in no time.
Dr Reker s Bellhop

Philadelphia, PA

#887 Apr 29, 2014
Reverend Alan wrote:
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The more insulting you are
Oh look, the unhinged troll who engages in invective is whimpering about insults directed at him again.

Nutso in aisle four!
Dr Reker s Bellhop

Philadelphia, PA

#888 Apr 29, 2014
cpeter1313 wrote:
I never said laws end racism; that's just an example of your stupidity.
Example of his trolling/purposeful disingenuousness.

“Common sense prevails.”

Since: Mar 14

3rd rock from the sun.

#889 Apr 29, 2014
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>no if that were the case all 50 states would have to recognize gay marriages which they dont just like each doesnt have to recognize common law marriages in states that allow them.
Ahhh, but the times, they are achangin' sugar plum, really chaps your arse doesn't it;0)
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#890 Apr 29, 2014
cpeter1313 wrote:
I don't beg for anything, and I'm far more likely to walk over your mangled body than to ask for anything. We weren't asking that our rights be recognized; we were demanding it.
<quoted text>
Relax Fruitloops.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#891 Apr 29, 2014
You first...take a load off.
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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Relax Fruitloops.
Dr Reker s Bellhop

Philadelphia, PA

#892 Apr 29, 2014
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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Relax Fruitloops.
You just cuddle, right?
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#893 Apr 29, 2014
Dr Reker s Bellhop wrote:
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You just cuddle, right?
Wrong. I give it to her wherever she wants it, in her crack or on her back. In her snatch or down the hatch. I am a gentleman and a feminist, I care deeply and want her to be happy and satisfied.
Dr Reker s Bellhop

Philadelphia, PA

#894 Apr 29, 2014
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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Wrong. I give it to her wherever she wants it, in her crack or on her back. In her snatch or down the hatch. I am a gentleman and a feminist, I care deeply and want her to be happy and satisfied.
Another great argument from the peanut gallery.
Zeppelin

Knoxville, TN

#895 Sep 8, 2014
Now there's a losing campaign issue. Support gay marriage and lose your election.

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