Miss. town stunned by slaying of mayoral candidate

Feb 28, 2013 Full story: WAVE-TV Louisville 537

Whatever his prospects for winning the coming mayoral election in his hometown of Clarksdale, Miss., Marco McMillian was considered by many to be a man on the rise.

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“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#419 Mar 22, 2013
Plain2see wrote:
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Show me what I said is untrue. Again, you can't. You view the truth as racist but its simply the truth. Sorry you can't handle it. Go cry about it.
What you said is untrue because I HAVE lived around blacks and HAVE seen how they behave. They behave no differently than whites or any other race.
Gulf

Gautier, MS

#420 Mar 22, 2013
smartypants wrote:
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Oh, heavens, it's that old “You're a racist” canard again.
Come on, Sheep. Can't you say something original? You know, you call us racist because you can't use facts and logic to show us how we're wrong. And when you resort to name-calling, it means you have nothing with which you can make your argument. You might as well call us pooh pooh heads.
And we don't *assume* the racial makeup of your town had anything to do with your moving there. Hell, everyone that's following this thread *knows* it. We know it because this is always the way it is with you preachy-preach hypocrites.
You want "fair housing" that forces middle- and low-income whites to live near destructive blacks while you Lexus Leftists live in your little all-white enclaves beside placid lakes or behind gates and walls that keep out the You-Know-Who.
You want lower- and middle-income white children forced into classrooms with perpetually underperforming blacks who drag down the educational tone of a school. And yet you typical chardonnay socialists just “choose” to live in a neighborhood with “good schools,” which is simply code words for “white schools.”
You egalitarian elites rave on and on about the lingering legacy of slavery that ended here fully eight generations back. Yet y'all can't even find the moral compass that would guide you to breathe a word in protest about the slavery that still goes on in Africa as you read these words.
You boutique bolsheviks always have two ready excuses for the perpetual failure of the blacks you've taken on as your goody-goody feelgood social project: 1) the presence of white people (“You got your big white foot on the black man's neck”), and 2) the absence of white people (“It was you whites that destroyed the cities with your white flight”).
And all of it -– every. single. word of it -– is just you chai-swilling change-istas jacking your jaws. Nobody believes any of it. So nobody here believes you when you in essence say you'd looOOOOooOOOoooove to live in a black neighborhood but just couldn't find one near a lake. Even you must know how insincere this sounds.
I actually like blacks quite a bit. They've been nice to me for most of my life. But they can't run a govt worth a sh*t. Or a business. I think it says a lot that blacks have been here for 150 years as free men & yet if you go into black neighborhoods any where in Jackson County -- all the gas stations are owned by Vietnamese or Indians, all of whom came here penniless 20 to 40 years ago,@ the very most.

That being said whenever in the past I've offered friendly advise to blacks both in person & online about how to better their communities I was responded to in a polite way of saying "fu*k off." My advice was no well received, wanted or appreciated & great offense was always taken.

At that point I just stopped. Black leaders complain about the obvious but @ this point I refuse to engage @ all. At this point its an issue that they themselves will have to deal with.

I'm mean I'm done with them. As soon as I get the money I'm moving out of Mississippi as this will be a black state in 20 years & I don't want to be here when that happens. Because this state, already on federal welfare & near-bankruptcy & poverty -- will only get worse. Look @ Detroit -- that's a template.

Let them solve their own problems & their own issues.

That's my advice to all whites who deal with them

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#421 Mar 22, 2013
Gulf wrote:
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I actually like blacks quite a bit. They've been nice to me for most of my life. But they can't run a govt worth a sh*t. Or a business. I think it says a lot that blacks have been here for 150 years as free men & yet if you go into black neighborhoods any where in Jackson County -- all the gas stations are owned by Vietnamese or Indians, all of whom came here penniless 20 to 40 years ago,@ the very most.
That being said whenever in the past I've offered friendly advise to blacks both in person & online about how to better their communities I was responded to in a polite way of saying "fu*k off." My advice was no well received, wanted or appreciated & great offense was always taken.
At that point I just stopped. Black leaders complain about the obvious but @ this point I refuse to engage @ all. At this point its an issue that they themselves will have to deal with.
I'm mean I'm done with them. As soon as I get the money I'm moving out of Mississippi as this will be a black state in 20 years & I don't want to be here when that happens. Because this state, already on federal welfare & near-bankruptcy & poverty -- will only get worse. Look @ Detroit -- that's a template.
Let them solve their own problems & their own issues.
That's my advice to all whites who deal with them
Funny, I say the same thing about the poor white trash down south......

Since: Mar 13

Location hidden

#422 Mar 22, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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What you said is untrue because I HAVE lived around blacks and HAVE seen how they behave. They behave no differently than whites or any other race.
You have seen the exception, sir, not the rule. Therein lies the difference.
smartypants

Carson, MS

#423 Mar 22, 2013
smartypants wrote:
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Oh, and Sheep -- how insensitive of me -- I forgot to ask.

How goes your hunt for the real killer?

Have you found that white deputy yet that you said did the killing?

Have you laid your hands yet on any of the conspirators involved in the coverup you asserted?

Have you been able to get a name yet on the cops who forced a confession out of the killer?

Have you touched base with OJ Simpson yet? He has a lot of experience looking for the real killer. He could really help you out.
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Like I said numerous times, racist Mississippi whites are very experienced in covering up their crimes. It's about the only thing they ARE good at.
I take it by your failure to answer that your response is "No, I have not found the real killer."

Why don't you just come out and say it, then: "Y'all, I'm sorry. I flew off the handle and said ugly things in the heat of passion. I made accusations about good people, accusations that aren't true. I acknowledge that I was wrong and I apologize."

And we want to know: What crimes are these that white folk in Mississippi covered up? What crimes did we cover up that you assert we're so good at? Can you name a few?(Seems to us that if we covered it up and were good at it, then you wouldn't know about it.) Or are you making that up like you make up everything else? Are you making that up like you make up the reasons you live in your fancy, exclusive white community? Are you making that up like you made that up about the McMillian killer being a white deputy?

We look forward to your response.
smartypants

Carson, MS

#424 Mar 22, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Guess what? Blacks & hispanics & asians act just like white people. The majority are decent law abiding citizens, while a few are criminals.
Suuuuuuuuuuure they are. You say that, living in your lakefront lily white insulated enclave. Let us tell you what it's really like now when Section 8 comes to the neighborhood where real Americans live.

Part 1 of 2

It's a sunny Wednesday morning. You have a day off. You're sleeping in late, your lovely wife beside you. You are awakened by the bradabrrap of a pickup truck with a hole in the muffler accelerating up your street. The pickup truck jumps the curb and parks in front of the 4-bedroom home across the street from your place, the one that you and your wife have been praying a nice family will move into. Yes, I said a nice family. You know what I mean. Everyone does.

You hear shouting, cursing, laughing. You and your wife peek through the curtains and die inside. You see four or five or six dirty-looking children running about with a few unrestrained pit bulls. There's a mountain of broken furniture in the bed of the pickup, a urine-stained mattress, and a seemingly endless number of garbage bags with clothes spilling out of them.

And, of course, there's the big screen TV strapped securely in the back end of the pickup.

Throughout the day a veritable parade of different trucks and cars and different – ahem –“people” come and go. Three thug-looking, corn-rowed males stand around chatting, holding their pants up with one hand, while a pregnant female with braids starts to unload the truck as she swears loudly at the gaggle of children. None of them ever shut up.

Three more vehicles show up, disgorging – ahem –“people” like a circus clown car.'My God,' you think to yourself,'Do * any * of these people have a job? Is this a family? Which ones are moving in?'

You can't call anybody because you didn't take down the number from the sign in the yard; you didn't expect, after all,* this *. And they've either already taken the sign down or it's under the pickup truck that carried the mattress.

You feel violated. Your day, your week, the rest of everything in your life is in tatters. There is a knot in your stomach and a feeling of fear; these people are definitely not just like you.

Later in the day, most of them leave. You hear a rapping, slapping sound and look outside to locate the source. One of the children is hitting your new picket fence with a stick. The other kids are running in the middle of the street. They begin a ball game in the street and they continually hit their ball over your fence. They casually hope over and retrieve it from your yard, giving you sullen looks if they happen to see you passing behind a window.

Late afternoon, another truck sluggards up the street towing behind it with a hemp rope a deadster Lincoln Towncar with one fender a differerent color. It gets dumped in the side yard.

(to be continued)
smartypants

Carson, MS

#425 Mar 22, 2013
Part 2 of 2

Then the basketball goal comes out and hangs over the street. The BBQ grill gets rolled out – where else?– on the front porch.

They have no trash cans and throw their garbage on the curb in trashbags. Cats, raccoons, possums, stray dogs make nightly forays to drag the garbage up and down the street. Your dog and your neighbors' bay at the vermin making their garbage run, waking you nightly.

There's some warm, vibrant, colorful event almost daily to remind you of the joys of divershitty. A domestic disturbance spills out the front door and into the yard for all to see and hear. Some thug comes in short pants, baseball cap turned sideways and wearing no shirt, who makes a cable connection. Big birthday party with cars parked wackily all over the street. Cops come and go. Child Protective Services. Health Department. Home Health nurse comes twice a week. Lord, what for? They all seemed healthy enough.

Electricity gets cut off. Then back on. Water gets shut off. Then turned back on. Then shut back off. Then they cut the shut-off tag and just steal the water from the City.

One day a few weeks later, the fire truck shows up over there followed by an ambulance that takes the pregnant female away to give birth again. A few more women show up that you've never seen before. Men show up, all hours of the night, and shout at the windows. You can't tell who lives in the house and who is visiting.

You are afraid to leave your home. You find their dogs in your backyard again and again.

All of your new neighbors across the street have cell phones and you think to yourself,'My God, how do they pay for them? Nobody over there seems to work.'

The value of your property has tanked. You are either saddled with the home or have to sell it at a loss.

But you're right, Sheep. Other than that, they're just exactly like you and me.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#426 Mar 22, 2013
Plain2see wrote:
<quoted text>
You have seen the exception, sir, not the rule. Therein lies the difference.
Ever consider it is YOU seeing the "exception" that you wish to see?

You already believe all blacks are lowlifes & criminals, so every time you see someone who fits that stereotype you of course take that as evidence that ALL blacks must be like that.

That's how bigotry & prejudice works.

Using your same logic I could just as easily assert that all white southerners are racist toothless drunk rednecks who drive dented rusted pickups. Oh look, there you are! So it must be true....

Since: Mar 13

Location hidden

#427 Mar 22, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Ever consider it is YOU seeing the "exception" that you wish to see?
You already believe all blacks are lowlifes & criminals, so every time you see someone who fits that stereotype you of course take that as evidence that ALL blacks must be like that.
That's how bigotry & prejudice works.
Using your same logic I could just as easily assert that all white southerners are racist toothless drunk rednecks who drive dented rusted pickups. Oh look, there you are! So it must be true....
The murder statistics, prison statistics do not lie. You lie.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#428 Mar 22, 2013
smartypants wrote:
<quoted text>
<quoted text>
I take it by your failure to answer that your response is "No, I have not found the real killer."
Why don't you just come out and say it, then: "Y'all, I'm sorry. I flew off the handle and said ugly things in the heat of passion. I made accusations about good people, accusations that aren't true. I acknowledge that I was wrong and I apologize."
And we want to know: What crimes are these that white folk in Mississippi covered up? What crimes did we cover up that you assert we're so good at? Can you name a few?(Seems to us that if we covered it up and were good at it, then you wouldn't know about it.) Or are you making that up like you make up everything else? Are you making that up like you make up the reasons you live in your fancy, exclusive white community? Are you making that up like you made that up about the McMillian killer being a white deputy?
We look forward to your response.
The evidence is in every murder of a black person Mississippi. Of course the white authorities knew who the actual killers were, but the support of the racist sherrifs & prosecutors they were either never brought to trial or their stacked all white juries refused to convict even with overwhelming evidence.

You need specifics-

Emmitt Till- tortured & murdered in 1955 by 2 white trash Mississipians; set free by an all white jury in spite of eyewitness testimony, and they later confessed to the murder in a national magazine interview.

Medgar Evers- shot in the back & killed in his driveway in 1963 by Byron De La Beckwith; set free by an all white jury; not convicted until 30 YEARS later in 1993.

Chaney, Goodman, & Schwerner- civil rights workers tortured & brutally murdered by in 1964 by the Deputy Sheriff, another police officer and KKK members on the order of the Sheriff & mayor. Mississippi officals all the way up to and including the Governor refused to prosecute any of the 21 men involved in the murders. President Johnson had to send in the FBI to prosecute them for violating their civil right; 6 people served less than 6 years. NO ONE was ever convicted of murder, though again 2 later confessed to their roles in the murders.

Do you really need more examples?

Typical Mississippi style "justice".......

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#429 Mar 22, 2013
Plain2see wrote:
<quoted text>
The murder statistics, prison statistics do not lie. You lie.
Which has more to do with poverty than race, and of course white cops framing them for crimes they never committed.

Typical of Mississippi "justice", it looks like they'll be putting another innocent black man in prison....

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#430 Mar 22, 2013
smartypants wrote:
<quoted text>
Suuuuuuuuuuure they are. You say that, living in your lakefront lily white insulated enclave. Let us tell you what it's really like now when Section 8 comes to the neighborhood where real Americans live.
(to be continued)
Been there, lived that, seen the exact same thing with white trash southerners......

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#431 Mar 22, 2013
smartypants wrote:
Part 2 of 2

But you're right, Sheep. Other than that, they're just exactly like you and me.
Been there, lived that; seen the same thing with white trash southerners......

Since: Mar 13

Location hidden

#432 Mar 22, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Which has more to do with poverty than race, and of course white cops framing them for crimes they never committed.
Typical of Mississippi "justice", it looks like they'll be putting another innocent black man in prison....
No it's race. Did you know that middle class and upper middle class blacks do just as poorly in school as their poor counterparts, and that poor whites do better than both groups? It's not poverty. Let's lay that lie down to rest. We both know full well what it is.
Mencken

Carson, MS

#433 Mar 22, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Which has more to do with poverty than race, and of course white cops framing them for crimes they never committed.
Typical of Mississippi "justice", it looks like they'll be putting another innocent black man in prison....
I used to think just like that, just like you. Drop your politically correct boilerplate for a while and consider: It's not poverty that causes crime.

It's crime that causes poverty. It screws up your resume` so you can't get a job. It takes you out of the workforce while you're in jail. It doesn't help your credit score. You keep paying fine after fine, restitution, lawyer fees (sometimes).

Does it not occur to you how silly your argument is? Do you honestly believe that there are black men prowling the streets saying, "I be poor so I be going to go rape me a white chick"?
Gulf

Gautier, MS

#434 Mar 23, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Funny, I say the same thing about the poor white trash down south......
The ones who can leave, are.

If you knew what you were actually talking about you'd come down here & visit a Walmart & you'd notice every 4th or 5th black man is DATING or MARRIED TO a poor white trash woman, usually who's overweight.

That or you see a white mother who looks "white trash" who has a child who's obviously half-black with the kink in the hair & the black features.

The black father? Nowhere to be found. I'm not making that up, you can come visit a dollar store, grocery store, 1 of the malls, Walmart, etc -- & you will see I'm telling you the truth dude.

Or worse yet you see white grandparents with ONE grandchild who's mixed race. 9 times out of 10 that means the mother is a crackhead/methhead & she had an affair with some black guy who's into drugs/partying. Some druggy white girls like black guys because unlike white men they don't demand anything out of them. They can run around & party & get drunk & make their own hours & black men let them do whatever they want.

That's why you see so many white girls babbling about being "boos" & pretending they're black. They get knocked up, the black father abandons his woman & the kid & runs away to his other white trash women or his black "hoes"(their term, not mine) & then the white mother either goes on welfare or dumps the child off on their parents, where the white grandparents end up raising an unwanted grandchild as their own.

And lol, good luck getting child support. If the father has a legitimate job he'll probably quit the second they start docking his wages. And that's assuming he makes more than 9 bucks an hour. Most of them don't.

The white trash rednecks run the show now.

At least they known how to budget(but not much else). The blacks can't even do that. Look @ the black cities in Mississippi -- in a constant state of turmoil or bankruptcy.
Gulf

Gautier, MS

#435 Mar 23, 2013
smartypants wrote:
Part 2 of 2
One day a few weeks later, the fire truck shows up over there followed by an ambulance that takes the pregnant female away to give birth again. A few more women show up that you've never seen before. Men show up, all hours of the night, and shout at the windows. You can't tell who lives in the house and who is visiting.
You are afraid to leave your home. You find their dogs in your backyard again and again.
That right there is what DROVE ME CRAZY about being in a black neighborhood. About 2 years ago they moved in next store to me. Within a month they were parking like 8 cars in the front yard/clogging up the road/etc.
About a year & a half ago I went outside with a beer to get some fresh air & all of a sudden I heard what sounded like metal clanking & I heard a low voice saying "hey man, hey man, come here."
I turn & look & its the black neighbor. He's like 60 I think. Yes -- SIXTY & he still runs around & parties til like 3am every other night. So I walk over to him & he goes "hey man somebody broke into the house while me & "her"(he means his live-in wife or girlfriend, I'm not sure which it is) were visiting New Orleans. Did you see anything?"
Over the past couple of weeks that they had been there they had literally 50 plus cars a day coming & going, as in DIFFERENT CARS. I couldn't tell who was who. And there were even more people than that who would come up by foot or bicycle. So I told him no, we mind our own business & don't really pay attention, that sorta thing. And I told him straight up I see so many people coming & going that I just assume they're all his relatives. After all I didn't want to offend the dude. I wanna live in peace, but these people had like 100 or more different people coming & going from their house by the day. I don't know any of them.
There are so many people coming they may as well be running a f**king gas station. I'm being serious. That's how many people are there every time I go out. And I would go out @ like 11pm @ night on a freaking Monday night to throw something in the garbage can & there'd be like 8 cars in front of their house & they're all sitting out drinking beer/smoking cigarettes. And they turn the cars off but play the radio really loud off the battery power.
And I go out & stare @ them but just ignore them & go back in.
You can't tell who's who & you don't wanna offend them so you just stay in your house or backyard & try to ignore them.
But that drove me CRAZY & still does. Because I can't tell who belongs there & who's their friend or relative & if somebody breaks in -- like I told the guy -- I don't know who even lives in your house you have so many random people coming & going. How am I supposed to know who's a criminal & who isn't?
Another neighbor told us they were pushing drugs from the house. Could be, wouldn't shock me @ all. They have so many people screaming @ eachother its hard to tell one way or the other.
All I know is -- they bring riff raff around. And one time a few months ago I was outside taking out my trash when I heard rustling behind their wooden privacy fence.
All of a sudden this 20 year old black boy jumps the fence & then jumps down into their front yard. I dunno if he belongs there or not.
He ignores me @ first & then goes "hey man, gotta light?" I reply "don't smoke man, sorry" & he walks away, thru my yard, without asking to come on it.
Never seen the guy in my life.
And they wonder why all the richer blacks on the street & all the whites are leaving. The Vietnamese 4 houses down moved out about 2 months ago and basically abandoned their house. I don't see a for sale sign there or a for rent sign. I guess they plan to just let the county have it.*shrugs*
I only have 3 white neighbors left. 2 of those houses have been there for over 20 years & are old, in their 60s or 70s & retired.
Gulf

Gautier, MS

#436 Mar 23, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>
Ever consider it is YOU seeing the "exception" that you wish to see?
You already believe all blacks are lowlifes & criminals, so every time you see someone who fits that stereotype you of course take that as evidence that ALL blacks must be like that.
That's how bigotry & prejudice works.
Using your same logic I could just as easily assert that all white southerners are racist toothless drunk rednecks who drive dented rusted pickups. Oh look, there you are! So it must be true....
No not all blacks are but usually speaking the ones who have money & good careers don't live in black areas. They live in white areas or out in the country on their own land away from the crime.

Blacks in the south aren't like the blacks in other parts of the country who are more white.

Come down here & live in a black area, I dare you too dude. You'll be scattering faster than the door slaps you on the ass on your way out.

The blacks down here are different from the ones in California or up north. They tend to be less educated, they have their own culture separate from that of even other blacks in other parts of the country & they don't really like white people as a general rule.

If you don't believe me figure it out for yourself.

Like I was telling you the other day dude if you think its a paradise i double dog dare you to come spend 6 months in a black area in southern Mississippi. Assuming your home doesn't get burglarized you'll be out in 2 weeks, tops.

Nobody has a problem with more upscale blacks -- its the "black trash" that are prevalent around here that nobody wants to live around because they sell dope & steal.
Gulf

Gautier, MS

#437 Mar 23, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>
The evidence is in every murder of a black person Mississippi. Of course the white authorities knew who the actual killers were, but the support of the racist sherrifs & prosecutors they were either never brought to trial or their stacked all white juries refused to convict even with overwhelming evidence.
You need specifics-
Emmitt Till- tortured & murdered in 1955 by 2 white trash Mississipians; set free by an all white jury in spite of eyewitness testimony, and they later confessed to the murder in a national magazine interview.
Medgar Evers- shot in the back & killed in his driveway in 1963 by Byron De La Beckwith; set free by an all white jury; not convicted until 30 YEARS later in 1993.
Chaney, Goodman, & Schwerner- civil rights workers tortured & brutally murdered by in 1964 by the Deputy Sheriff, another police officer and KKK members on the order of the Sheriff & mayor. Mississippi officals all the way up to and including the Governor refused to prosecute any of the 21 men involved in the murders. President Johnson had to send in the FBI to prosecute them for violating their civil right; 6 people served less than 6 years. NO ONE was ever convicted of murder, though again 2 later confessed to their roles in the murders.
Do you really need more examples?
Typical Mississippi style "justice".......
Are you nuts? That was 50 yrs ago. All the people who did that are dead & the people who were children back then are nearing Social Security age. You can't be serious....

The evidence seems to suggest this guy was killed by what is either a black male hustler or by some black guy who had a gay encounter & then went crazy & killed the gay guy for "shaming him" & then robbed the guy & that sorta thing. Don't you read the news stories you talk about?

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#438 Mar 23, 2013
Plain2see wrote:
<quoted text>
No it's race. Did you know that middle class and upper middle class blacks do just as poorly in school as their poor counterparts, and that poor whites do better than both groups? It's not poverty. Let's lay that lie down to rest. We both know full well what it is.
Nope, that just your racist beliefs.

I didn't understand it until I went in the military. Growing up in rural Minnesota the only black people I saw were on tv, so I assumed they were all like what you saw on the news- poor, criminals, drug users, etc.

Imagine my suprise when it turns out all black people weren't poor or criminals or drug abuses etc. I quickly realized all the stereotypes I was taught as a kid were just that- stereotypes based on ignorance.

I don't blame my parents; I don't think they ever met a black person their entire lives. They saw them on tv and from a distance on the rare ocassion they went to the Twin Cities for the state fair. They were just ignorant, and to be fair they still are.

YOU on the other hand have no such excuse. You're just plain prejudiced.

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