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Ill. House Approves Legalizing Same-Sex Civil Unions

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The Illinois House has approved a measure to legalize civil unions for same-sex couples.

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piglet

United States

#18218 Aug 15, 2011
Hey will the same sex marriage partners use the same stall.

Another question is that if a guy or girl had a sex change operation, would you be comfortable in the same latrine with them. Just currious.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#18219 Aug 15, 2011
yuk wrote:
<quoted text>
Simply this and that.
Soften it up.
Make it be known,
the gay water is fine.
Add the death toll of all of your above 'diseases' in same 30 year stretch...
the aids epidemic deathtoll outnumbers all of these put together by 20 million.
Which one of these others has spread into the DEADLIEST epidemic in the history of mankind as a direct result of anal intercourse?
Hang your gay hat on it.
That was largely the result of people being infected and without symptoms for as much as 15 years before the first inklings of a new disease occurred to any professionals.

Your comment still assumes that orientation is a choice. Without that presumption your assertions implying a proselytizing intent to our political agitation lose their force.

Freedom from an inculcated destructive self-hatred is always desirable. We call it coming out of the closet, but it is a long process of learning to love onesself, process anger and resentment from past injuries and oppression, and accept ones' intrinsic equality and dignity on the face of the earth. It is far from an easy process that begins with rigorous honesty.

"The truth sets you free, but first it really pisses you off."

It's a process I recommend highly, even for hetero people.

Our message is NOT "the water's fine".

Our message is YOU ARE NOT ALONE.

Again, upon whom would you like to lay the blame for the pandemics of past centuries.

UNPROTECTED promiscuity, regardless of who engages in it, is definitely a prime vector of transmission.

Young men, regardless of orientation, are nothing if not horndogs. The gay population in the middle of the (hetero) sexual revolution, without any fear of pregnancy which so restricts hetero interaction, many virtually catapulted out of the repressive parts of this country into what were the first safe gay neighborhoods in history really went overboard. The psychological nuances of the coming out process were little understood. Further, the presenting issues showed much of the symtomology we have now come to recognize and understand as marks of physical and psychological abuse, and even PTSD. It has become increasingly clear that much of the dysfunctional behaviors seen among many individuals in the gay community result from a culturally institutionalized system of abuse.

Ending this is what our message is.

It has been seen that gay kids raised in more nurturing and accepting environments exhibit proportionally fewer dysfunctional behaviors and grow into longterm stable relationships after a brief period of promiscuity not dissimilar to that found among hetero young adults.

I don't have a "gay hat".
yuk

Chicago, IL

#18220 Aug 15, 2011
Bet you do.

How do you know if you have a gay agenda?

Would you like to punch me in the face?

Do you as a homosexual, want for nothing more than to see your chosen gay lifestyle FULLY ACCEPTED?

As a homosexual,
do you agree whole heartedly with the above statement?

Are you easily misled and easily confused?

Are you forgetting the lie you have been brainwashed into-
subconsciously knowing your homosexual behavior is a choice!
yuk

Chicago, IL

#18221 Aug 15, 2011
I may have been attracted to my beagle as a young boy.
As a matter of fact, all of my pets looked pretty desirable to me during puberty.
A big oak tree in my back yard felt pretty good to rub up on, but was that how I was made to be?

According to your train of thought, those who act out sexually in an unnatural way and continue to do so were made to be that way?

NO!
The difference?
Knowing this was wrong behavior!
A CHOICE of not acting out to what my conscious, as a spiritual being, told me was wrong.
This is what you gay agendists are blurring and hoping to wipe out.
yuk

Chicago, IL

#18222 Aug 15, 2011
snyper wrote:
<quoted text>
That was largely the result of people being infected and without symptoms for as much as 15 years before the first inklings of a new disease occurred to any professionals.
Your comment still assumes that orientation is a choice. Without that presumption your assertions implying a proselytizing intent to our political agitation lose their force.
Freedom from an inculcated destructive self-hatred is always desirable. We call it coming out of the closet, but it is a long process of learning to love onesself, process anger and resentment from past injuries and oppression, and accept ones' intrinsic equality and dignity on the face of the earth. It is far from an easy process that begins with rigorous honesty.
"The truth sets you free, but first it really pisses you off."
It's a process I recommend highly, even for hetero people.
Our message is NOT "the water's fine".
Our message is YOU ARE NOT ALONE.
Again, upon whom would you like to lay the blame for the pandemics of past centuries.
UNPROTECTED promiscuity, regardless of who engages in it, is definitely a prime vector of transmission.
Young men, regardless of orientation, are nothing if not horndogs. The gay population in the middle of the (hetero) sexual revolution, without any fear of pregnancy which so restricts hetero interaction, many virtually catapulted out of the repressive parts of this country into what were the first safe gay neighborhoods in history really went overboard. The psychological nuances of the coming out process were little understood. Further, the presenting issues showed much of the symtomology we have now come to recognize and understand as marks of physical and psychological abuse, and even PTSD. It has become increasingly clear that much of the dysfunctional behaviors seen among many individuals in the gay community result from a culturally institutionalized system of abuse.
Ending this is what our message is.
It has been seen that gay kids raised in more nurturing and accepting environments exhibit proportionally fewer dysfunctional behaviors and grow into longterm stable relationships after a brief period of promiscuity not dissimilar to that found among hetero young adults.
I don't have a "gay hat".
Gay kids?

Shows the sickness in your agendist notions.

“Free to buy cake”

Since: Jul 07

wherever I like.

#18223 Aug 15, 2011
piglet wrote:
Hey will the same sex marriage partners use the same stall.
Another question is that if a guy or girl had a sex change operation, would you be comfortable in the same latrine with them. Just currious.
Gender identity is between the ears, not between the legs. And I don't really give a rat's butt who's in the bathroom when I'm in there. It isn't as if we're sharing a toilet stool.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#18224 Aug 15, 2011
yuk wrote:
<quoted text>
Gay kids?
Shows the sickness in your agendist notions.
I was a gay kid.

I certainly wasn't the only one. I just thought so.

We intend to fix that, and are ... slowly.

I don't want to hit or harm you. I certainly DO intend to make certain that you cannot use the legal structures of my Nation to harm or influence my life or those of my family.

Any more lies, libels, insinuations and accusations, snake?

"... gone is the one who accused us day and night ..."

I look forward to it.
Douglas Van Michaels

United States

#18225 Aug 15, 2011
I'm sure there are plenty of other rights the anti-gay marriage would want to take away. There are people who would like to see a Christian Dictatorship in this country. We're not going to let that happen. Remember, a gayer America is a freer America.
Minor Mentality

United States

#18226 Aug 15, 2011
Sexual relationships,hetero or gay,bring complications that minors are too immature to handle.(Yes, I realize that teens will always find a way!)In hetero relations the complication of unwanted pregnancy in gay relationships the possibility of giving up ever having children. Both are heavy decisions.
(There are many Christian churches that lovingly accept people. Please don't attack a whole belief system because of the extremists. However, the whole foundation of any society is dependant on training up the next generation. Choosing to have children is an important part of that process.)
Teens will gravitate to what is popular. When I was a teen in the 70"s it was popular to say we were bi! We were being taught that we are all bi-sexual and if you didn't admit to this you were labeled repressed!

“WAY TO GO”

Since: Mar 11

IRELAND

#18227 Aug 15, 2011
Minor Mentality wrote:
Sexual relationships,hetero or gay,bring complications that minors are too immature to handle.(Yes, I realize that teens will always find a way!)In hetero relations the complication of unwanted pregnancy in gay relationships the possibility of giving up ever having children. Both are heavy decisions.
(There are many Christian churches that lovingly accept people. Please don't attack a whole belief system because of the extremists. However, the whole foundation of any society is dependant on training up the next generation. Choosing to have children is an important part of that process.)
Teens will gravitate to what is popular. When I was a teen in the 70"s it was popular to say we were bi! We were being taught that we are all bi-sexual and if you didn't admit to this you were labeled repressed!
Well, I was a teenager in the mid 70's and I didn't even know what Bisexual was back then........so, nope wasn't trying to be bisexual or thinking it was cool........lol!!!

Hell, when I first did start to know what bisexuality meant.....I seriously thought it was either a very confused heterosexual or a very confused homosexual.......didn't believe a person could seriously be attracted to both sexes, but they can and it's not an issue for them......for me personally......I can't go both ways.......I'm just not interested in being intimate with a man!!!
Nice

Dixon, IL

#18228 Aug 16, 2011
Erong

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#18229 Aug 16, 2011
Minor Mentality wrote:
Sexual relationships,hetero or gay,bring complications that minors are too immature to handle.(Yes, I realize that teens will always find a way!)In hetero relations the complication of unwanted pregnancy in gay relationships the possibility of giving up ever having children. Both are heavy decisions.
(There are many Christian churches that lovingly accept people. Please don't attack a whole belief system because of the extremists. However, the whole foundation of any society is dependant on training up the next generation. Choosing to have children is an important part of that process.)
Teens will gravitate to what is popular. When I was a teen in the 70"s it was popular to say we were bi! We were being taught that we are all bi-sexual and if you didn't admit to this you were labeled repressed!
I remember that period among the younger set. It's ridiculous, really. While a teenage male can get horny at a hole in a fence, and girls tend to be more flexible, that has very little to do with orientation. There really is no "choice" in the pairbond. Such "fads" are shortlived among females, and for males ... well I guess there is viagra for those who seem to want to fake a response, but why?
Atum

Pekin, IL

#18230 Aug 16, 2011
bad idea wrote:
<quoted text>
No matter what facts I have, you will try to discredit them. Whatever, the facts are out there, you know it, I know it, and so does everyone else. I show facts, you show your ignorance. Keep it coming!
By the way, here is another published work: http://www.catholiceducation.org/articles/hom...
Check it out. Not my words nor do I claim them to be. I was asked to present more facts, that's all I'm doing. Sorry if the truth hurts your feelings, as that is not my intentions.
Once again, when you use a site that's published by a religion that strongly opposes gay union, it entirely discredits you. Anyone who doesn't agree with these "facts" aren't showing ignorance, they're showing sensibility. What you're showing is blatant stubbornness and close-mindedness to actually research something.

“Jump in! The water's perfect:)”

Since: Oct 10

Cleveland, Honolulu, Africa

#18232 Aug 16, 2011
piglet wrote:
Hey will the same sex marriage partners use the same stall.

Another question is that if a guy or girl had a sex change operation, would you be comfortable in the same latrine with them. Just currious.
I think this is a good question you can ask yourself.

Do you go to the public bathroom expecting to see a transsexual? About one in around 8000 people can expect to use the same public bathroom at the same time as a transsexual over the course of a lifetime. Out of those about one in ten would actually recognizes the possibility that a transsexual is in the restroom with them. Now these are generous numbers I have come up with that don't include cross-dressers or transvestites. Nor does it include sexual predators that sometimes assume the presentation of a ts or cd/tv.

I'm a pre-op m2f ts and at times I must use the public ladies room. Over the the last 15 years I've had no problems. I'm fortunate that I blend very well I guess. Others aren't so fortunate. The public restroom is a gender specific safe zone that most if not all people will be uncomfortable sharing with those who are obviously the opposite sex.

“Jump in! The water's perfect:)”

Since: Oct 10

Cleveland, Honolulu, Africa

#18233 Aug 16, 2011
yuk wrote:
Bet you do.

How do you know if you have a gay agenda?

Would you like to punch me in the face?

Do you as a homosexual, want for nothing more than to see your chosen gay lifestyle FULLY ACCEPTED?

As a homosexual,
do you agree whole heartedly with the above statement?

Are you easily misled and easily confused?

Are you forgetting the lie you have been brainwashed into-
subconsciously knowing your homosexual behavior is a choice!
Interesting...

Do you as a (obviously non accepting) heterosexual want nothing more than to see all homosexuals forced to live a lifestyle that is agreeable to your way of thinking?

“Jump in! The water's perfect:)”

Since: Oct 10

Cleveland, Honolulu, Africa

#18234 Aug 16, 2011
yuk wrote:
I may have been attracted to my beagle as a young boy.
As a matter of fact, all of my pets looked pretty desirable to me during puberty.
A big oak tree in my back yard felt pretty good to rub up on, but was that how I was made to be?

According to your train of thought, those who act out sexually in an unnatural way and continue to do so were made to be that way?

NO!
The difference?
Knowing this was wrong behavior!
A CHOICE of not acting out to what my conscious, as a spiritual being, told me was wrong.
This is what you gay agendists are blurring and hoping to wipe out.
You equating sexual conundrum during puberty to homosexuality?

Interesting

I've never heard of a respected psychiatric journal or expert ever making such an assertion.
Gypsy

Edwardsville, IL

#18235 Aug 17, 2011
Did you know that there is a drastic increase in sexually transmitted diseases among people in 55+ communities?? Oh MY GOD! SEND THEM ALL TO CUBA BECAUSE WE MIGHT HAVE TO PAY FOR THEIR MEDICAID!!!

“saved From jesus”

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#18236 Aug 17, 2011
yuk wrote:
wave a metal rod during a lighting storm and say that its just electricity.
Wave your jeebus on a stick and call it god.

“saved From jesus”

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#18237 Aug 17, 2011
yuk wrote:
<quoted text>
Simply this and that.
Soften it up.
Make it be known,
the gay water is fine.
Add the death toll of all of your above 'diseases' in same 30 year stretch...
the aids epidemic deathtoll outnumbers all of these put together by 20 million.
Which one of these others has spread into the DEADLIEST epidemic in the history of mankind as a direct result of anal intercourse?
Hang your gay hat on it.
Your dunce cap is all ready on that hat rack.

“saved From jesus”

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#18238 Aug 17, 2011
wabash cannonball wrote:
When are people going to wake up and realize that homosexuality is a chosen, deviant way of life. It isn't caused by genetics, bad childhoods, or anything else but the fact that a homosexual cannot get a person of the opposite sex to love and chooses to get sex elsewhere.
Projecting?

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