Gay men booted from altar duty

Gay men booted from altar duty

There are 125 comments on the www.canada.com story from Jul 21, 2009, titled Gay men booted from altar duty. In it, www.canada.com reports that:

A gay man has filed a complaint with the Ontario Human Rights Tribunal against a Catholic bishop after being removed from his volunteer job as an altar server because of his sexual orientation.

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“T-Warrior”

Since: Dec 07

El Paso Tx (Rochester NY)

#82 Jul 28, 2009
Gaybriel wrote:
cheif22 it's funny you mention Ruth, since the singular, the only "till death do us part" vow in the entire Bible is Ruth's statement to Naomi in Ruth 1:17, and Naomi's earlier comment to both her daughter-in-laws about remarrying was about "security" and nothing more. The last chapter of that book talks about the raising of that child as Naomi's own in a way that the two of them clearly were raising the child just as any lesbian couple would.
Ya Know the hardest thing to overcome when studing the Bible or any other ancient document is to read it from the point of view of that time frame, and not try to interpert using modern views. In that part of the world and that culture, during ancient times as well as now men great each other with a kiss, that doesn't make them homosexual.

“Devoutly anti-religious”

Since: Apr 09

The Universe

#83 Jul 28, 2009
chief22 wrote:
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Ya Know the hardest thing to overcome when studing the Bible or any other ancient document is to read it from the point of view of that time frame, and not try to interpert using modern views.
That's much of my point. Modern Christian propaganda ignores that (especially when it talks about "traditional" marriage, which is anything but a truly long-established tradition in Christianity). It ignores that for thousands of years ago men and women didn't usually cohabit for pleasure or to create some kind of emotional lifelong bond, they did it to have babies and both of them led their very separate lives otherwise, him with his friends and her with her "maid", and that the majority of women were with a small minority of the most powerful and rich men, and that all the rest of the men had only each other. Solomon's 700 wives and 300 concubines (assuming those concubines were all women) left 699 other men with each other and no wives.

“T-Warrior”

Since: Dec 07

El Paso Tx (Rochester NY)

#85 Jul 28, 2009
Gaybriel wrote:
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That's much of my point. Modern Christian propaganda ignores that (especially when it talks about "traditional" marriage, which is anything but a truly long-established tradition in Christianity). It ignores that for thousands of years ago men and women didn't usually cohabit for pleasure or to create some kind of emotional lifelong bond, they did it to have babies and both of them led their very separate lives otherwise, him with his friends and her with her "maid", and that the majority of women were with a small minority of the most powerful and rich men, and that all the rest of the men had only each other. Solomon's 700 wives and 300 concubines (assuming those concubines were all women) left 699 other men with each other and no wives.
When I talk of traditional marriage (and I make this clear) I am talking of this country, and I would dare say that most American Christians look at it in a similar method.
There is Hope

Tinley Park, IL

#86 Jul 28, 2009
homosexuals seem to use more than their share of healthcare due to their risky practices, I would like to see Reparative Therapy required for homosexuals in the healthcare bill. or we can just tax them extra until they sign up for therapy, like they do for other groups.

I guess we'll just let Obama lay down the groundwork, democrats will not always be in charge.

“Devoutly anti-religious”

Since: Apr 09

The Universe

#87 Jul 28, 2009
chief22 wrote:
<quoted text>
When I talk of traditional marriage (and I make this clear) I am talking of this country, and I would dare say that most American Christians look at it in a similar method.
So you mean then the tradition that marriage is between two Caucasians, since 80% of the timeline of the history of this country did not allow "interracial" marriages ("based on the bible" of course)...right?

“T-Warrior”

Since: Dec 07

El Paso Tx (Rochester NY)

#88 Jul 28, 2009
Gaybriel wrote:
<quoted text>
So you mean then the tradition that marriage is between two Caucasians, since 80% of the timeline of the history of this country did not allow "interracial" marriages ("based on the bible" of course)...right?
Since interracial marriage wasn't illegal till the late 1800s and was ended less than 100 years I would say not, I would say that the Tradition of marriage in this country has been one man and one woman

“Devoutly anti-religious”

Since: Apr 09

The Universe

#89 Jul 28, 2009
chief22 wrote:
<quoted text>
Since interracial marriage wasn't illegal till the late 1800s and was ended less than 100 years I would say not, I would say that the Tradition of marriage in this country has been one man and one woman
How very convenient, so Christian of you to pick and choose what you want to use even from your own examples when the complete truth doesn't jive with what you want. It was not "illegal" for blacks to marry prior to the Emancipation Proclamation not because they were legally allowed to marry, but instead because they were not considered legally to be people, they were considered to be property, and like a car (or then a horse buggy) property can't marry. So therefore, you make a statement that interracial marriage was not illegal for the first hundred years of the US' existence as a nation, pretending that statement means that it was legal, when in fact the truth is that it was not legal. Those are not two sides of the same coin.

I'm done with this thread, and any others with you, because this is the same crap you spew out over and over again, twisted reality and deliberately misleading statements of partial truth, on a blog for the GLBT community when you are (supposedly) not gay and therefore have no business being here.

“T-Warrior”

Since: Dec 07

El Paso Tx (Rochester NY)

#90 Jul 29, 2009
Gaybriel wrote:
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How very convenient, so Christian of you to pick and choose what you want to use even from your own examples when the complete truth doesn't jive with what you want. It was not "illegal" for blacks to marry prior to the Emancipation Proclamation not because they were legally allowed to marry, but instead because they were not considered legally to be people, they were considered to be property, and like a car (or then a horse buggy) property can't marry. So therefore, you make a statement that interracial marriage was not illegal for the first hundred years of the US' existence as a nation, pretending that statement means that it was legal, when in fact the truth is that it was not legal. Those are not two sides of the same coin.
I'm done with this thread, and any others with you, because this is the same crap you spew out over and over again, twisted reality and deliberately misleading statements of partial truth, on a blog for the GLBT community when you are (supposedly) not gay and therefore have no business being here.
I have been quite consistant in my views, even to the point of being accused of being a "broken record." I have the right to express my opinion on any subject on this sight as I desire, that is what America is all about.
me

London, Canada

#91 Feb 15, 2011
Homosexulty has been around since the beginning of man . It is even practiced in other animls

Since: Nov 10

Monte Vista, Colorado

#92 Feb 15, 2011
Rick in Kansas wrote:
While Corcoran and his partner may enjoy different rights under Canadian law than they would in this country to press such a claim, I can't see what is gained by it. They had to realize that even in being chaste in their relationship, such a relationship would be unwelcome to others of their faith and that the Church itself finds simply being homosexual, let alone acting upon it, incompatible with doctrine. All this action will serve to do is add fuel to the fire of anti-gay bigotry that comes from the Catholic Church. I realize they feel that they have been wronged by the faith they chose to serve, but they should have seen this coming from miles away. Find a faith that embraces who you are as a person, not one that you know rejects you no matter how much you bend to their will.
So have you molested altar boys too?

Since: Nov 10

Monte Vista, Colorado

#93 Feb 15, 2011
Keep homosexual creeps away from the kids. We didn't learn our Catholic Church lesson last time?

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#94 Feb 16, 2011
windypoint wrote:
So have you molested altar boys too?
Sorry, but I don't happen to share your predilection. You were referring to yourself when you said "too", weren't you? They do say that confession is good for the soul, I'm just glad you are able to admit that you did something pretty heinous. Although, I do have to say, you would have been one of the last I would have suspected of that. See, that's how it happened, it's the ones that you never really suspect that get away with it...

Since: Nov 10

Monte Vista, Colorado

#95 Feb 16, 2011
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>Sorry, but I don't happen to share your predilection. You were referring to yourself when you said "too", weren't you? They do say that confession is good for the soul, I'm just glad you are able to admit that you did something pretty heinous. Although, I do have to say, you would have been one of the last I would have suspected of that. See, that's how it happened, it's the ones that you never really suspect that get away with it...
Sorry Jerome, I'm not homosexual so molesting children isn't my thing...but then neither are Catholic altars. I'm Jewish you see. So how many Catholic MEN was it that came forward with stories of homosexual priests molesting them as children? 50,000? 60,000? Not that I let Jews off the hook. We have a legion of Orthodox creeps in NY just as guilty.
me

Cobourg, Canada

#96 Feb 16, 2011
I agree that molesting anyone is very wrong and discusting
All AboutMe

Midlothian, VA

#97 Oct 25, 2012
I find it rather ironic that one of the main otesters, has now been charged with sexual assault on a minor. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Mind youit was a female minor.

“The Black Mermaid”

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#98 Nov 2, 2012
Any gay clergy get booted?
SHYKORA ARTs paul

Calgary, Canada

#99 Nov 6, 2012
..well..the Church has ...rule's,here...eh...good,..n eutral.. or bad....yada u..
Catholic Girl

Bethpage, NY

#100 Nov 7, 2012
Gaybriel wrote:
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And what about being gay is "sexually immoral"?
This is why, it is written: Leviticus 18: 22
Thou shalt not lie with mankind as with womankind, because it is an abomination.

The Man upstairs is telling you he doesn't like it. It is immoral. These people act like animals.
Catholic Girl

Bethpage, NY

#101 Nov 7, 2012
Sherlayne wrote:
Any gay clergy get booted?
If they get caught they'll get booted out. If not caught they will still have to pay the price for their actions once they meet their maker. don't you think?

Hey Girlfriend, Hope all is good on your side of the fence. The questions on our ballot all passed, this really bums me out today. I mean no harm to no one, it just breaks my heart mainly because all these poor ingornant souls will probably not make it into heaven due to this blemish on their souls.
The SSM goes against all my morals, virtues, etc. Satan has won alot in this past election.
Sickened by the Borgias

UK

#102 Nov 7, 2012
Catholic Girl wrote:
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If they get caught they'll get booted out. If not caught they will still have to pay the price for their actions once they meet their maker. don't you think?
Hey Girlfriend, Hope all is good on your side of the fence. The questions on our ballot all passed, this really bums me out today. I mean no harm to no one, it just breaks my heart mainly because all these poor ingornant souls will probably not make it into heaven due to this blemish on their souls.
The SSM goes against all my morals, virtues, etc. Satan has won alot in this past election.

Satan and God are the same being. With his Satan cap on he wreaks havoc, then people pray to the version of him in his God hat. The power of prayer is as effective as an infant attempting to pull a bus up a hill with a length of string.

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