Why Gay Marriage Matters

Oct 4, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: EDGE

On one aspect of whether same-sex couples should have the right to marry, both sides agree: The issue defines what kind of nation we are.

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Jane Dough wrote:
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we also only see one species crapping inside...
or using computers ..or having governments and planes...
so WHAT....
and that has what real value? let's stick with the subject, okay?

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nuts wrote:
Back to the subject, I have seen the same male dog try to have sex with a female leg, a piece of furniture, and another male dog. Is that evidence that the dog homosexual?
back to the subject... i've seen young children do the same thing. it's called masturbation, and it has nothing to do with homosexuality.

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Ravianna wrote:
Anyone who thinks gay marriage has anything to do with rights is a tool. Gays can marry. They just can't marry who they want to.
so, what would be the point of them getting married at all?

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Back to the subject, I have seen the same male dog try to have sex with a female leg, a piece of furniture, and another male dog. Is that evidence that the dog homosexual?
I think the best descriptor for the behavior of the dog you mention is "pansexual".

Note again that I said that samesex pairbonds have been observed among species that pairbond for life.

The problem with the term "homosexual" is that it delineates a behavior, not an orientation. Conflating the two can make (and has made) for some very spicey arguments, but they are a waste of time based upon imprecise nomenclature.

The point of observing animal behavior, is that it instructs us about all those factors which are not produced by cortical and pre-frontal structures in our brains ... far greater than our ego- and homo-centrism seems to care to admit.

It occurs in nature, therefore it is natural.

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Ravianna wrote:
Anyone who thinks gay marriage has anything to do with rights is a tool. Gays can marry. They just can't marry who they want to.
So if that rule applied to you, you'd be fine with it?
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Leftatalbuquerque wrote:
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You really are a sh!thead - no knowledge of ANYTHING. Go into any wolf or bear den - guess where the poo is. At the back. Any other species other than cats and pigs poos where they eat. Look at any cattle pasture, or open range.
Lots of animals use tools. You can find out on your own who they are - they range from chimps to birds.
You really are a piece of work. Your parents should be spanked for not providing any upbringing to you. How you see yourself as being superior than gays or worthy of having children is beyond any rational mind.
spare me your faux outrage...
I made a silly point...that animals do something is no logic...

oh, you got me, also, when i lay my laptop on the grund, the dog hits keys...so we are just like dogs, right?

its all silly, including your fake outrage and false claim i think i am better than anyone...
it was just a silly comment...
build a bridge and get over it...
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dances with weebles wrote:
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and that has what real value? let's stick with the subject, okay?
as much value as the original point, none...

fine with me.

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Jane Dough wrote:
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spare me your faux outrage...
I made a silly point...that animals do something is no logic...
oh, you got me, also, when i lay my laptop on the grund, the dog hits keys...so we are just like dogs, right?
its all silly, including your fake outrage and false claim i think i am better than anyone...
it was just a silly comment...
build a bridge and get over it...
Natural means that it is present in nature.
There are gay animals, over 1500 species have been observed as having some homosexual animals.
Therefore, homosexuality is natural, for it appears in nature.

What is so hard to understand?
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Natural means that it is present in nature.
There are gay animals, over 1500 species have been observed as having some homosexual animals.
Therefore, homosexuality is natural, for it appears in nature.
What is so hard to understand?
Please stop pretending you are talking to me...

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Please stop pretending you are talking to me...
In other words, "I have no idea what you're talking about so stand right there while I run away and hide."

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The dog situation is hardly a good example. The references people are talking about occur outside of domestication, are usually associated with animals that are exclusively homosexual, and are sometimes manganous to one individual, as has been seen in dolphins.
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eJohn wrote:
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In other words, "I have no idea what you're talking about so stand right there while I run away and hide."
In other words, Lacez is a waste of time...
you talk with her...

Yah, look at how many times I posted...running and hiding?
reality aside as usual eh john?

the real question is, why did you have to jump on this particular post, because you are more interested in attacking me than making any point?

your lack of citations or any support already told me that, but this kinda clinches it doesn't it?

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Jane Dough wrote:
<quoted text>In other words, Lacez is a waste of time...
you talk with her...

Yah, look at how many times I posted...running and hiding?
reality aside as usual eh john?

the real question is, why did you have to jump on this particular post, because you are more interested in attacking me than making any point?

your lack of citations or any support already told me that, but this kinda clinches it doesn't it?
I would say his judgement is accurate. Lacez's argument is presented with facts and logic. You make silly connections between things that have nothing to do with one another and are altogether inaccurate.
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I would say his judgement is accurate. Lacez's argument is presented with facts and logic. You make silly connections between things that have nothing to do with one another and are altogether inaccurate.
what "facts"?
what "logic"?

Most of what i post is cut and pastes from Scotus decisions...
I guess they are just silly?

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Jane Dough wrote:
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what "facts"?
what "logic"?
Most of what i post is cut and pastes from Scotus decisions...
I guess they are just silly?
In other words, "I have neither facts nor logic on my side, but I CAN Google SCOTUS cases and copy and paste the bits I think support my side so that proves I'm right, despite having no argument."

Again, hon, learn to read and understand a legal decision and THEN try to use them to support your argument. As of now, you're just copying and pasting and hoping no one knows the law better than you do.

Guess what? We do.

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Jane Dough wrote:
<quoted text>what "facts"?
what "logic"?

Most of what i post is cut and pastes from Scotus decisions...
I guess they are just silly?
How about the logic that the word Natural means "found in nature" and the fact that homosexuality has been documented in species as far back as the 1800s? It's a proven, scientific fact. Your response was basically, "I'm not speaking with you." You said that he couldn't pretend that he was speaking to you, when in actuality, he WAS speaking to you and there is nothing you can do about it. The only thing you can do is pretend. Which you did. Also, when you were making a point, it was hardly on topic. Tell me, what does being the species that is smart enough to make and use computers have to do with inherent homosexuality in animals?
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eJohn wrote:
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Again, hon, learn to read and understand a legal decision and THEN try to use them to support your argument. As of now, you're just copying and pasting and hoping no one knows the law better than you do.
Guess what? We do.
Okay, how about you take a turn and support yourself, why won;t you?

I am making supported argum,ents, and you are denying they exist, FYI, that snot debating its merely you being delusional...

please tell me what Baker means...
SUPPORT YOURSELF....
is that too much to ask? apparently yes, and I know why...

so your posts will now focus on me, and not what I am saying, I know why you will do that too.
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AscendedFalmer wrote:
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How about the logic that the word Natural means "found in nature" and the fact that homosexuality has been documented in species as far back as the 1800s? It's a proven, scientific fact. Your response was basically, "I'm not speaking with you." You said that he couldn't pretend that he was speaking to you, when in actuality, he WAS speaking to you and there is nothing you can do about it. The only thing you can do is pretend. Which you did. Also, when you were making a point, it was hardly on topic. Tell me, what does being the species that is smart enough to make and use computers have to do with inherent homosexuality in animals?
how about the fact that we all already agreed that animals do it is a silly tangent?

Lacez doesnt respond to what is written to her, she just goes off...
she OFTEN attributed things to me I never said and repeats her same tripe over and over and fights with me all the while I try to explain I NEVER SAID what she claims...
ITS A WASTE OF TIME...(it looks like you want to go that route too?)
So i told her to stop pretending she was speaking to me (as I had already admitted that particular post was a silly JOKE!!!!)

And watch, I'll do it again, Dogs eat their own crap...bon appetite....

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Freedom equality and civil rights always matter....

MARRIAGE EQUALITY FOR ALL.....Or get government out of marriage business all together..

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Jane Dough wrote:
<quoted text>how about the fact that we all already agreed that animals do it is a silly tangent?

Lacez doesnt respond to what is written to her, she just goes off...
she OFTEN attributed things to me I never said and repeats her same tripe over and over and fights with me all the while I try to explain I NEVER SAID what she claims...
ITS A WASTE OF TIME...(it looks like you want to go that route too?)
So i told her to stop pretending she was speaking to me (as I had already admitted that particular post was a silly JOKE!!!!)

And watch, I'll do it again, Dogs eat their own crap...bon appetite....
You don't understand the purpose of forums, then. This is for legitimate discussion. Not jokes.

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