Married same-sex couples with kids see IRS tabs rising

Aug 18, 2013 Full story: The Willits News 20

Married same-sex couples with children may face higher bills from the IRS as recent Supreme Court rulings start playing out in the tax code.

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Deja vu all over Again

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#1 Aug 18, 2013

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#2 Aug 18, 2013
The IRS SHOULD BE ABOLISHED, and SHOULD HAVE BEEN ABOLISHED many decades ago.

To replace the IRS, and the horribly complex tax laws, and the blizzard of paperwork required, is a NATIONAL SALES TAX of 18%(an admittedly arbitrarily chosen number).

Since nearly all the states have had their own sales tax bureaucracies in place for decades, the state sales tax collection units are very experienced in collecting sales taxes. They can simply collect the federal sales tax, deduct 1% for their own trouble and expense of collecting it, and forward the balance on to the federal government.

What could be simpler than that as far as federal tax collection is concerned ?

:)

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#5 Aug 18, 2013
Yea, just more FEAR MONGERING and nothing else......some legally married Same-Sex Couple MIGHT see an increase......but then again....THEY MIGHT NOT.......at least they won't have to fill out numerous forms and can at least start to file just like other legally married couples can!!!

This is a wait and see until the next tax year comes around!!!

“Equality First”

Since: Jan 09

St. Louis, MO

#6 Aug 19, 2013
NorCal Native wrote:
Yea, just more FEAR MONGERING and nothing else......some legally married Same-Sex Couple MIGHT see an increase......but then again....THEY MIGHT NOT.......at least they won't have to fill out numerous forms and can at least start to file just like other legally married couples can!!!
This is a wait and see until the next tax year comes around!!!
Actually, if you use Turbo Tax or H & R Block's program, it is a simple thing to re-figure your taxes from this year as a married couple with kids, as opposed to whatever way you already figured them. It won't tell you exactly what it would cost you in taxes, because laws and taxes change, but it would give you a general idea.
Roy

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#7 Aug 19, 2013
How do same-sex couples have children?
Willem

Anonymous Proxy

#8 Aug 19, 2013
Roy wrote:
How do same-sex couples have children?
Well obviously they aren't having them naturally. As far as I know scientists haven't discovered a way for a man to conceive a child in his rectal cavity. These sick freaks are allowed to adopt little boys now. Isn't that wonderful!

“TAKIA AND TA TONKA”

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#9 Aug 19, 2013
RalphB wrote:
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Actually, if you use Turbo Tax or H & R Block's program, it is a simple thing to re-figure your taxes from this year as a married couple with kids, as opposed to whatever way you already figured them. It won't tell you exactly what it would cost you in taxes, because laws and taxes change, but it would give you a general idea.
Thank you for this information:-)

“Equality First”

Since: Jan 09

St. Louis, MO

#10 Aug 19, 2013
NorCal Native wrote:
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Thank you for this information:-)
I purchase a copy of each every year. I run my taxes on both, just to be sure the figures come out correct. It's a tax-deductible expense. Give it a try.

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#11 Aug 19, 2013
RalphB wrote:
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I purchase a copy of each every year. I run my taxes on both, just to be sure the figures come out correct. It's a tax-deductible expense. Give it a try.
We will......we are still working on an issue from my wife's 2011 tax year........and still we have not had a resolution yet......in fact....this reminded me of a couple of phone calls I need to make:-)

“Together for 24, legal for 5”

Since: Sep 07

Littleton, NH

#12 Aug 19, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
The IRS SHOULD BE ABOLISHED, and SHOULD HAVE BEEN ABOLISHED many decades ago.
To replace the IRS, and the horribly complex tax laws, and the blizzard of paperwork required, is a NATIONAL SALES TAX of 18%(an admittedly arbitrarily chosen number).
Since nearly all the states have had their own sales tax bureaucracies in place for decades, the state sales tax collection units are very experienced in collecting sales taxes. They can simply collect the federal sales tax, deduct 1% for their own trouble and expense of collecting it, and forward the balance on to the federal government.
What could be simpler than that as far as federal tax collection is concerned ?
:)
As with all taxes, there will be endless arguments over what it applies to. Does the tax apply to the raw materials going into a production process? Does sales tax apply to items that a distributor buys in the US, but not in Mexico? Does sales tax apply to purchases by churches and 501(c)(3)'s? Does sales tax apply to newspapers? To professional services? To phone chat lines? To already-taxed liquors?

Probably the closest thing to what you envision is a European style VAT. European businesses don't find the VAT simple.

“Together for 24, legal for 5”

Since: Sep 07

Littleton, NH

#13 Aug 19, 2013
NorCal Native wrote:
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We will......we are still working on an issue from my wife's 2011 tax year........and still we have not had a resolution yet......in fact....this reminded me of a couple of phone calls I need to make:-)
In view of the fact that the Windsor decision affects a tax bill that is several years old, have you considered refiling as married?

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Since: Nov 12

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#14 Aug 19, 2013
nhjeff wrote:
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As with all taxes, there will be endless arguments over what it applies to. Does the tax apply to the raw materials going into a production process? Does sales tax apply to items that a distributor buys in the US, but not in Mexico? Does sales tax apply to purchases by churches and 501(c)(3)'s? Does sales tax apply to newspapers? To professional services? To phone chat lines? To already-taxed liquors?
Probably the closest thing to what you envision is a European style VAT. European businesses don't find the VAT simple.
To keep it AS SIMPLE AS POSSIBLE, it should apply to EVERYTHING WITHOUT EXCEPTION.

“Together for 24, legal for 5”

Since: Sep 07

Littleton, NH

#15 Aug 19, 2013
Very few same-sex couples will pay more taxes, and those will generally be couples making more than a quarter million dollars annually.

While other couples may be pushed into higher marginal brackets, that will often be offset by no longer taxing benefits for same-sex partners and their children. This will also help offset losses of the earned income tax credit and other aid given to low-earning spouses.

By combining my husband's and my taxes, the total taxes owed come out a little higher. But I haven't been able to figure out how much of that is offset by no longer taxing his benefits from my employer. Whatever the bottom line, I'm happy to pay a little more for the myriad benefits of having our marriage recognized by the IRS, Social Security, and other federal departments.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

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#16 Aug 19, 2013
nhjeff wrote:
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As with all taxes, there will be endless arguments over what it applies to. Does the tax apply to the raw materials going into a production process? Does sales tax apply to items that a distributor buys in the US, but not in Mexico? Does sales tax apply to purchases by churches and 501(c)(3)'s? Does sales tax apply to newspapers? To professional services? To phone chat lines? To already-taxed liquors?
Probably the closest thing to what you envision is a European style VAT. European businesses don't find the VAT simple.
So you prefer our PRESENT federal tax system ?!

And btw, there are some states WITHOUT a state income tax and they get along just fine. We should emulate them in each state AND the federal government.

And if you DO prefer our present federal tax system (I cannot imagine WHY anybody would do so), then it SHOULD BE a FLAT TAX of 15% with NO deductions or exemptions of ANY kind for ANYBODY. THAT would make it simpler and fairer.
One Nation Under Israel

Pittsfield, MA

#17 Aug 19, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
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So you prefer our PRESENT federal tax system ?!
And btw, there are some states WITHOUT a state income tax and they get along just fine. We should emulate them in each state AND the federal government.
And if you DO prefer our present federal tax system (I cannot imagine WHY anybody would do so), then it SHOULD BE a FLAT TAX of 15% with NO deductions or exemptions of ANY kind for ANYBODY. THAT would make it simpler and fairer.
I think you'll find this article most useful FaFoxy. It touches base on the dominion over our nation by neo bolsheviks.

Editor Jonas Alexis of Veterans Today dotcom
A fine editor

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/08/18/edwar...

“TAKIA AND TA TONKA”

Since: Aug 08

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#19 Aug 19, 2013
nhjeff wrote:
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In view of the fact that the Windsor decision affects a tax bill that is several years old, have you considered refiling as married?
No, not yet......do ya think that might help?

We are using a Tax Adversary from one of the Senator's office here in California.

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Since: Nov 12

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#21 Aug 19, 2013
NorCal Native wrote:
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No, not yet......do ya think that might help?
We are using a Tax Adversary from one of the Senator's office here in California.
EXACTLY WHY our present tax system is so WRONG ! You shouldn'r NEED a professional tax preparer to file your taxes !

With a national sales tax, or a flat income tax, you wouldn't need a professional tax preparer. It's a multi-billion dollar racket.

And The Obamaniac is the Racketeer-In-Chief ! IMPEACH THIS BUM ! Throw Stumblebum Joe in there ! NEXT !

“Together for 24, legal for 5”

Since: Sep 07

Littleton, NH

#22 Aug 19, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
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EXACTLY WHY our present tax system is so WRONG ! You shouldn'r NEED a professional tax preparer to file your taxes !
With a national sales tax, or a flat income tax, you wouldn't need a professional tax preparer. It's a multi-billion dollar racket.
And The Obamaniac is the Racketeer-In-Chief ! IMPEACH THIS BUM ! Throw Stumblebum Joe in there ! NEXT !
The thing you "tax simplification" advocates refuse to understand is that taxes are quite easy to figure out. It's the definition of income that confuses everyone.

Think about this: Whether the IRS existed or not, corporate America would still spend many billions every year on accountants and auditors whose job is to determine what their income is. There are actually rather few adjustments that need to be made to GAAP income to find taxable income--and those would almost all be considered "loopholes" or tax preferences. And how did those loopholes and preferences get there? At the request of businesses and wealthy Americans.

We could simplify the tax code in a nanosecond if that's what the large corporations and wealthy American families actually wanted. But they don't. They want all those loopholes and preferences that benefit themselves.

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Since: Nov 12

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#23 Aug 19, 2013
nhjeff wrote:
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The thing you "tax simplification" advocates refuse to understand is that taxes are quite easy to figure out. It's the definition of income that confuses everyone.
Think about this: Whether the IRS existed or not, corporate America would still spend many billions every year on accountants and auditors whose job is to determine what their income is. There are actually rather few adjustments that need to be made to GAAP income to find taxable income--and those would almost all be considered "loopholes" or tax preferences. And how did those loopholes and preferences get there? At the request of businesses and wealthy Americans.
We could simplify the tax code in a nanosecond if that's what the large corporations and wealthy American families actually wanted. But they don't. They want all those loopholes and preferences that benefit themselves.
The U.S. government got along fine without an income tax for more than 100 years, even bearing able to finance wars without an income tax. There is no reason we cannot do away with the ridiculously complex and corrupt income tax system we have today.

As much as I hate to admit it, the DEMOCRATS have the simplest income tax system. Their system ?: "1. How much money did you make ? 2. Send it all in !"

“Equality First”

Since: Jan 09

St. Louis, MO

#24 Aug 19, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
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The U.S. government got along fine without an income tax for more than 100 years, even bearing able to finance wars without an income tax. There is no reason we cannot do away with the ridiculously complex and corrupt income tax system we have today.
As much as I hate to admit it, the DEMOCRATS have the simplest income tax system. Their system ?: "1. How much money did you make ? 2. Send it all in !"
You're full of crap. I had an income of over $85,000 last year, and I didn't pay a penny's tax. It's all in how much get legally reported.

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