Frumpy Middle-Aged Mom: Scouts' prob...

Frumpy Middle-Aged Mom: Scouts' problem isn't gays

There are 31 comments on the www.kansas.com story from May 7, 2013, titled Frumpy Middle-Aged Mom: Scouts' problem isn't gays. In it, www.kansas.com reports that:

Boy Scouts of America, please listen up. I'm a former Scout mom and I have something to say. So here's my two cents' worth.

I know you recently conducted a national poll of parents. The most recent compromise proposal, unveiled April 19 - one that the Mormon church has said it won't oppose - is that no boy would be denied the right to be a Boy Scout based solely on his sexual orientation. That's a good move. But the proposed resolution to be debated also states that "open or avowed homosexuals" would continue to be nationally barred from being adult leaders.

I was initially reluctant to write this, because I don't usually delve into hot-button issues in my column, unless it's how badly I need to paint my house. That one got a lot of reader hate mail, probably from my neighbors. I also don't like perpetuating the stereotype that all gay men are stylish. One only has to look at Barney Frank to know that's not true.

You are under the misapprehension that you have a "gay problem," But what you actually have is a "dork problem."

Boys leave your program in droves, once they become old enough to be hazed by their peers for belonging to what most kids today see as a Stone Age institution. Brian D. Sweany, who became an Eagle Scout in 1989, recently wrote a piece in the Texas Monthly titled "Scout's Dishonor" about the ban, starting out describing how Scouting was "decidedly not cool, primarily for two reasons: one, everyone assumed you were a dork and a do-gooder, and two, no matter how rebellious and hip you might actually be, it didn't matter because you had to wear those horrific outfits with the green-and-red socks."

Notorious mob assassin John Veasey recently told CBS News that he had once been a Boy Scout troop leader, taking kids on outings hours before changing cars and conducting hits on rival mobsters. "The kids didn't know I was a hit man," Veasey told the reporter.

I wish someone could explain to me why you can be a hired killer for the mob and still be a Boy Scout leader - unless you're gay. I hope the Boy Scouts of America decides to do the right thing at the national meeting May 22-24 in Grapevine, Texas. Accept that being gay does not mean being a child molester, and stop living in the Stone Age.

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“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#1 May 7, 2013
Forward to The Bronze Age !

:)

Since: Jul 09

Indy/Philly/Toronto

#2 May 7, 2013
Yeah . . . what she said.
Chance

Grove City, PA

#3 May 7, 2013
So, Frumpy, whose kids are going to be the guinea pigs to find out whether or not you are right when you say that we should "accept that being gay does not mean being a child molester." This is right along the same lines as Obama telling those college grads that people warning of tyranny should be ignored.
Tea Bag Residue Cleanup

Levittown, PA

#5 May 7, 2013
Chance wrote:
guinea pigs to find out whether or not you are right when you say that we should "accept that being gay does not mean being a child molester."
We know from the violent raping of women and all the incest in extended families that str8 men are the main sexual predators on a percentage basis.

Yet we don't ban all str8 men from working around youth.

Sick, vile, christianist bigotry from jeesus spewing reprobates with severe sexual and psychological problems. Trash.

Since: Apr 08

Cleveland, OH

#6 May 8, 2013
Chance wrote:
So, Frumpy, whose kids are going to be the guinea pigs to find out whether or not you are right when you say that we should "accept that being gay does not mean being a child molester." This is right along the same lines as Obama telling those college grads that people warning of tyranny should be ignored.
You act as though this topic exist only in the United States. Guess what? It doesn't.

The Scout movement exists in other countries too -- in Canada, in the UK, in Australia, in various European countries. And in those other countries they don't have a ban on gays as participants or as leaders.

No guinea pigs needed, Chance. This has been settled and the United States is just getting around to catching up.

Sucks to be wrong, and last, doesn't it.

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#7 May 8, 2013
Chance wrote:
So, Frumpy, whose kids are going to be the guinea pigs to find out whether or not you are right when you say that we should "accept that being gay does not mean being a child molester." .....
No Dear, the stats confirm it. No need for further testing on rodents or children.

“Where's my fairy wand!”

Since: Apr 08

Reading PA

#8 May 8, 2013
Chance wrote:
So, Frumpy, whose kids are going to be the guinea pigs to find out whether or not you are right when you say that we should "accept that being gay does not mean being a child molester." This is right along the same lines as Obama telling those college grads that people warning of tyranny should be ignored.
Read the remarks of others here - seems you have no idea what it is you're talking about.

However we find that's true of most people of your ilk.

Meanwhile I must disagree on one point - Barney Frank DOES have his stylish side - he just keeps it locked up most of the time. He let it out at his wedding though.
Brian

Attleboro, MA

#9 May 8, 2013
Chance wrote:
So, Frumpy, whose kids are going to be the guinea pigs to find out whether or not you are right when you say that we should "accept that being gay does not mean being a child molester." This is right along the same lines as Obama telling those college grads that people warning of tyranny should be ignored.
Usually, the ones who accuse others are the ones that are guilty themselves. Are you a child molester?

“Marriage Equality”

Since: Dec 07

Lakeland, MI

#10 May 8, 2013
It's only the "christianist" based Boy Scouts of America that have this ridiculous ban on gay Scouts and leaders.

The rest of the world is far more advanced and don't have any problems at all.

It's only here in the good old U. S. of A. where knuckle-dragging idiots believe that "freedom of religion" means, "I'M free to force YOU to follow MY religion."

We're surrounded by idiots....
Thats Right

Chesapeake, OH

#11 May 8, 2013
Tea Bag Residue Cleanup wrote:
<quoted text>We know from the violent raping of women and all the incest in extended families that str8 men are the main sexual predators on a percentage basis.

Yet we don't ban all str8 men from working around youth.

Sick, vile, christianist bigotry from jeesus spewing reprobates with severe sexual and psychological problems. Trash.
You ever heard of closet queers? They identify as straight to hide their shame. They even have children with women that's suppose to be repulsive to them, just so they can't be found out. That's where you get a lot of supposeally straight men molesting little boys. They're not straight, they're queers. They've even molested their own little boys.

“Marriage Equality”

Since: Dec 07

Lakeland, MI

#12 May 8, 2013
Thats Right wrote:
<quoted text>
You ever heard of closet queers? They identify as straight to hide their shame. They even have children with women that's suppose to be repulsive to them, just so they can't be found out. That's where you get a lot of supposeally straight men molesting little boys. They're not straight, they're queers. They've even molested their own little boys.
Thanks!! You just made the perfect argument as to why gay folks shouldn't be persecuted and taught to hate themselves.

Answer this--what makes a gay person grow up hating themselves so much and fearing being found out so much that they're willing to marry someone they're not attracted to and have children, knowing full well that they will eventually destroy the lives of the very people who's only crime was loving them?

Who's responsible for making that happen??
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#13 May 8, 2013
Thats Right wrote:
<quoted text>
You ever heard of closet queers? They identify as straight to hide their shame. They even have children with women that's suppose to be repulsive to them, just so they can't be found out. That's where you get a lot of supposeally straight men molesting little boys. They're not straight, they're queers. They've even molested their own little boys.
Closet activity is caused by religious superstition
.
Ban religion and your closet problem is solved
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#15 May 8, 2013
Thats Right wrote:
<quoted text>
ROFLMFAO that's about the stupidest excuse that I've ever heard coming from a Queer. You possibly could be the stupid queer I've been hearing so much about. LMFAO
On a level with Plato and Aristotle; I am the greatest thinker of the Conservation Age
.
Tell you grandkids that you once conversed with me on TOPIX; sugar
.
;o))

“Marriage Equality”

Since: Dec 07

Lakeland, MI

#16 May 8, 2013
Thats Right wrote:
<quoted text>
ROFLMFAO that's about the stupidest excuse that I've ever heard coming from a Queer. You possibly could be the stupid queer I've been hearing so much about. LMFAO
Answer this--what makes a gay person grow up hating themselves so much and fearing being found out so much that they're willing to marry someone they're not attracted to and have children, knowing full well that they will eventually destroy the lives of the very people who's only crime was loving them?

Who's responsible for making that happen??

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#17 May 8, 2013
eJohn wrote:
<quoted text>
Answer this--what makes a gay person grow up hating themselves so much and fearing being found out so much that they're willing to marry someone they're not attracted to and have children, knowing full well that they will eventually destroy the lives of the very people who's only crime was loving them?
Who's responsible for making that happen??
The Obamaniac said that was "Bush's fault !"
Thats Right

Chesapeake, OH

#18 May 8, 2013
eJohn wrote:
<quoted text>Answer this--what makes a gay person grow up hating themselves so much and fearing being found out so much that they're willing to marry someone they're not attracted to and have children, knowing full well that they will eventually destroy the lives of the very people who's only crime was loving them?

Who's responsible for making that happen??
Sickness, a very bad sickness.
Thats Right

Chesapeake, OH

#19 May 8, 2013
Rainbow Kid wrote:
<quoted text>On a level with Plato and Aristotle; I am the greatest thinker of the Conservation Age
.
Tell you grandkids that you once conversed with me on TOPIX; sugar
.
;o))
Sugar, you really are mentally impaired.

Since: Apr 08

Cleveland, OH

#20 May 8, 2013
Thats Right wrote:
<quoted text>
Sickness, a very bad sickness.
You're right -- homophobia is a sickness.

“Marriage Equality”

Since: Dec 07

Lakeland, MI

#21 May 8, 2013
Thats Right wrote:
<quoted text>
Sickness, a very bad sickness.
Nope! Wrong! Try again:

What makes a gay person grow up hating themselves so much and fearing being found out so much that they're willing to marry someone they're not attracted to and have children, knowing full well that they will eventually destroy the lives of the very people who's only crime was loving them?

Who's responsible for making that happen??
Thats Right

Chesapeake, OH

#22 May 8, 2013
eJohn wrote:
<quoted text>Nope! Wrong! Try again:

What makes a gay person grow up hating themselves so much and fearing being found out so much that they're willing to marry someone they're not attracted to and have children, knowing full well that they will eventually destroy the lives of the very people who's only crime was loving them?

Who's responsible for making that happen??
He's got to be mentally impaired. I sure the heII wouldn't marry, let alone have sex with another man, just to hide the fact that I'm straight. That's totally inexcusable.

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