Maryland Gay Marriage Could Hinge on Black Churches

[WasteWater]

Jane Dough wrote:

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except the battle between you and them will rage FOREVER...
that's why...to finally SOLVE it...that's what compromises do after all...
I actually have really gotten a kick out of how offended everyone was at the suggestion you be given EXACTLY the same rights and the same name, but not "marriage"...

What will you do when same sex couples get married and enjoy equality?

Will you stop whining then?

[Jane Dough]

WasteWater wrote:

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What will you do when same sex couples get married and enjoy equality?
Will you stop whining then?

Ask my grandkids...
it will take that long if it ever happens...

[WasteWater]

Jane Dough wrote:

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Ask my grandkids...
it will take that long if it ever happens...

I predicted Obama would win.

I also predict same sex marriage in California before the end of the year.

I predict same sex marriage within the next five years.

Will you stop whining then?

[DaveinMass]

WasteWater wrote:

I predicted Obama would win.
I also predict same sex marriage in California before the end of the year.
I predict same sex marriage within the next five years.
Will you stop whining then?

I predict Jane will never stop whining.

[Jane Dough]

WasteWater wrote:

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I predicted Obama would win.
I also predict same sex marriage in California before the end of the year.
I predict same sex marriage within the next five years.
Will you stop whining then?

would you?
nope.

why do you think your opposition is ever going to give up?
a compromise is the only way out...like abortion it will never be over...

BTW, I have my rights...so who is really whining?
I am only trying to show you that when people rely on procreation they are informed, not bigots....but you refuse to believe people don't hate you...

[WasteWater]

Jane Dough wrote:

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would you?
nope.
why do you think your opposition is ever going to give up?
a compromise is the only way out...like abortion it will never be over...
BTW, I have my rights...so who is really whining?
I am only trying to show you that when people rely on procreation they are informed, not bigots....but you refuse to believe people don't hate you...

They will give up after they lose. They are irrelevant along with the procreation argument.

[WasteWater]

DaveinMass wrote:

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I predict Jane will never stop whining.

he is a weird bird squawk

[Mona Lott]

WasteWater wrote:

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What will you do when same sex couples get married and enjoy equality?
Will you stop whining then?

Vermont has had same sex marriage for several years. It makes Jane crazy.

[Mona Lott]

WasteWater wrote:

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They will give up after they lose. They are irrelevant along with the procreation argument.

Yes.... folks are still whining about how ending slavery was a big mistake. People are still whining about giving women the right to vote. Nothing ever changes in Jane's world. Change scares the piss out of him.

[Mona Lott]

If one cannot win an argument over a hypothetical, then who would continue to demand an answer to one? I know who... Someone who needs attention.... medical attention.

[iamcuriousnow]

what is same sex marriage??????????I know there is different sex marriage but same sex marriage seems .....kind of like an impossibilty

[Mona Lott]

iamcuriousnow wrote:

what is same sex marriage??????????I know there is different sex marriage but same sex marriage seems .....kind of like an impossibilty

Yeah.... it's been impossible for eight years now.

Jesus tap-dancing CHRIST!

[iamcuriousnow]

somehow two men or two women married I don't know-who carries who over the threshold-which one gets the jitters on the first night?????

[Not Yet Equal]

Jane Dough wrote:

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for the LAST time...it would NOT be a separate institution...I am not saying GAYS have a civil partnership...I am saying EVERYONE would..
lets drop the battle over the name marriage by getting rid of it altogether from the legal sense...
but look how you refuse to hear it and instead revert to post after post of separate is unequal?
and look how many expressed rage at the other side and all kinds of stuff about THEM not getting it, and look how many people actually understood the idea and responded rationally (I think maybe 2 posts).
Maybe if I just said, "get the govt out of the "marriage " business", all of you guys' auto-response mechanism would have been for support...
so again, the IDEA was simply to make LEGAL relationships ALL partnerships, and leave the religions to have "marriage". Yes gay people in religions that marry them would also be "married".
What a bigoted idea, RIGHT?
you owe me an apology.

To fulfill the definition of "bigotry", hate is required.

Prejudice does not require hate. "Prejudice, we are beginning to understand, rises not from malice or hostile animus alone. It may result as well from insensitivity caused by simple want of careful, rational reflection or from some instinctive mechanism to guard against people who appear to be different in some respects from ourselves." (Golinski v.)

We have demonstrated and documented using history, science, and law, that your proposal is not necessary, is unworkable and therefore irrational, as well as harmful. It relies on prejudice alone.

I have indulged your proposal in order to demonstrate it has no basis in reality and only causes harm. If any apology is in order, it should be from you for insisting we are somehow not worthy of the word recognized around the world as the primary relationship between two adults who have committed their lives to each other. No matter what your stated intent, your proposal is demeaning, stigmatizing, and insulting.

[NorCal Native]

iamcuriousnow wrote:

what is same sex marriage??????????I know there is different sex marriage but same sex marriage seems .....kind of like an impossibilty

There ISN'T a Same-Sex marriage or a Different-sex marriage.......THERE IS JUST MARRIAGE THAT EITHER INVOLVES A SAME-SEX COUPLE OR AN OPPOSITE-SEX COUPLE.......and as for your comment about who carries who over the threshold......who ever wants to do it......it matters not......and usually both get the pre-wedding jitters......it's only natural!!!

[Brian_G]

The majority is wrong; changing the definition of marriage harms everyone.

[Quest]

Brian_G wrote:

The majority is wrong; changing the definition of marriage harms everyone.

And yet, you have NEVER been able to show a single adverse affect. Not one. You have never proven that marriage is bad for gay couples and bad for their kids. You have never proven that married gay couples are harmful to society in ANY way.

That's because you can't.

And yet you are so divorced from reality that you continue to make statements to the contrary, knowing you can't logically back them up.

That's not a sign of a sane mind.

[Quest]

iamcuriousnow wrote:

somehow two men or two women married I don't know-who carries who over the threshold-which one gets the jitters on the first night?????

Why does anyone have to carry anyone else over a threshold? And, who is required to have "jitters", or not have them?

Are there rules like that for straight couples? Who enforces them? The Marriage Police?

[Quest]

Jane Dough wrote:

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would you?
nope.
why do you think your opposition is ever going to give up?
a compromise is the only way out...like abortion it will never be over...
BTW, I have my rights...so who is really whining?
I am only trying to show you that when people rely on procreation they are informed, not bigots....but you refuse to believe people don't hate you...

The opposition is getting smaller and smaller. As long as they lose the right to prevent some couples form marrying simply because of gender, who cares how they feel?

It's not like it affects them in any way. As long sa they keep their ignorance to themselves, everything will be just fine.

Your last sentence doesn't make sense, though. Procreation is not a requirement for marriage. Anywhere in the US. So, who would be relying on it to obtain a marriage license?

[WasteWater]

Quest wrote:

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And yet, you have NEVER been able to show a single adverse affect. Not one. You have never proven that marriage is bad for gay couples and bad for their kids. You have never proven that married gay couples are harmful to society in ANY way.
That's because you can't.
And yet you are so divorced from reality that you continue to make statements to the contrary, knowing you can't logically back them up.
That's not a sign of a sane mind.

Brian is a troll.