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Maryland Gay Marriage Could Hinge on Black Churches

There are 9647 comments on the The Skanner story from Mar 1, 2012, titled Maryland Gay Marriage Could Hinge on Black Churches. In it, The Skanner reports that:

With Maryland poised to legalize gay marriage, some conservative opponents and religious leaders are counting on members of their congregations, especially in black churches, to upend the legislation at the polls this fall.

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DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#7480 Oct 8, 2012
oops:
"heard"

“WAY TO GO”

Since: Mar 11

IRELAND

#7481 Oct 8, 2012
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>When government recognizes two men as a married couple, the law says a wife is irrelevant to that marriage. By extension, if a child is in custody of that 'married' couple, the law would say a mother is irrelevant to that family. Put another way, same sex marriage means a black father is irrelevant in a black family and a black wife is irrelevant in a black marriage.
I'm glad that's' finally cleared up.
To their particular family....NOT to all families!!!

The law is not saying one thing or the other.....YOU are. Kids are raised everyday without either a mother or father in their lives, but that doesn't mean that they don't have an opposite-sex role model in their life.

Your extreme comments are nothing more than fear mongering false statements!!!

“WAY TO GO”

Since: Mar 11

IRELAND

#7482 Oct 8, 2012
DNF wrote:
<quoted text>You're speaking to a wall.
"Waterboarder" doesn't want to admit that all that he's whining about is also taught in age appropriate manners.
He's perfectly happy seeing little girls playing with dolls and having tea parties together. It's when he's forced to see them as adults that may not be what he expected that he gets freaked out.
Funny thing is he keeps talking about HIS rights and HIS family.
I don't blame him. Except he wants HIS rights and HIS family given preference over everyone else's. The exact thing he doesn't want people to do to him.
He calls us selfish for wanting to protect our families.
"Selfishness is not living as one wishes to live, it is asking others to live as one wishes to live."
- Oscar Wilde
I totally understand.....but little girls shouldn't be required to just play with dolls, have tea parties and play dress up......they should be able to play with cars, have campouts and be able to get dirty just like any boy can........it won't make them become Lesbians........just like playing with dolls, dress up, cooking toys will not make a boy become Gay..........yet, people like him probably believe it will and that's sad!!!!

DNF

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Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#7483 Oct 8, 2012
RnL2008 wrote:
<quoted text>
Again, you make an ASSumption that has not been presented as evidence.
I'm not sure I would classify myself as a political activist and I'm not sure what the Gay Lobby agenda is that you speak of..........but with that being said, I'm not against certain issues being addressed in the public school system as long as it is age appropriate and doesn't cross the line into a sexual discussion especially one that misrepresents the facts!!!
He hasn't figured out that not every gay and lesbian is a card carrying member of every gay and lesbian organization that exists.

Just like not every Christian is a card carrying member of the "God appointed me to keep lists of sins for everybody" chosen few.

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#7484 Oct 8, 2012
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>When government recognizes two men as a married couple, the law says a wife is irrelevant to that marriage. By extension, if a child is in custody of that 'married' couple, the law would say a mother is irrelevant to that family. Put another way, same sex marriage means a black father is irrelevant in a black family and a black wife is irrelevant in a black marriage.
I'm glad that's' finally cleared up.
Care to add the term "divorce" to the equation you outlined above? Or would that destroy your whole fear based campaign?

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Since: Mar 11

IRELAND

#7485 Oct 8, 2012
DNF wrote:
<quoted text>He hasn't figured out that not every gay and lesbian is a card carrying member of every gay and lesbian organization that exists.
Just like not every Christian is a card carrying member of the "God appointed me to keep lists of sins for everybody" chosen few.
Boy, ain't that the truth......lol!!!

Since: Apr 11

Panorama City, CA

#7486 Oct 8, 2012
WaterBoarder wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes!! This is my favorite part! I have reposted it several times! This is the clearest example on the whole site about the agenda of these people. Allow me to repost their finest moment:
"A discussion about gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender and questioning people does not constitute a discussion about human sexuality or family life education and does NOT require parent notification according to the California Education Code."
Think about how ridiculous this is. Discussing gays and gay families "does not constitute a discussion about human sexuality or family life"? Really? On what planet?
So the law says parents need to be notified when the schools want to discuss sexuality and family life. These guys simply declare that discussing gay families is that at all...and no parental notification is necessary! Gee...no agenda here!
Actually, in the code it's "Sexuality and family life education".
http://pubs.cde.ca.gov/tcsii/ch8/sxualtyfamly...
WaterBoarder wrote:
THESE PEOPLE WANT TO TEACH OTHER PEOPLE'S CHILDREN THERE IDEAS ABOUT SEXUALITY WITH OR WITHOUT PARENTAL CONSENT!
Teaching that there are gay couples is hardly teaching about sexuality.
WaterBoarder wrote:
Get it? This is my main point. Allow gay marriage and these fascists will have even greater justification!
Non sequitur.

Since: Apr 11

Panorama City, CA

#7487 Oct 8, 2012
WaterBoarder wrote:
<quoted text>
Then why bother? If SO MANY kids have gay parents and these kids have friends who are aware of the situation then what is the point at all?
The point is to teach all these little ones that being gay is normal, healthy, and moral. That way we can use the public school system to eradicate all that nasty homophobia with have in society.
Sounds like a great plan...eh?
What's wrong with that?
Being gay is normal, healthy and moral.
And it would be good to get rid of homophobia. What good does homophobia do?

Since: Apr 11

Panorama City, CA

#7488 Oct 8, 2012
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Men and women are by no means equal, in law or in nature.
The 14th Amendment says all US citizens should get equal protection under the law.
Brian_G wrote:
Take the issue of abortion, only women have the right to kill their unborn, if a man tried to exercise this abortion 'right' without the consent of the women, it would be illegal.
Not if he's the one who's pregnant.
Brian_G wrote:
Only women have the experience of menstruation, pregnancy, childbirth, breast nursing and menopause. Men have no equal experience, men and women are unequal.
Our rights should depend on whether we menstruate or not?
I'm never going to get knocked up. Should my rights be different from a woman who has?
Brian_G wrote:
Same sex marriage treats people as if they are unisex. If same sex marriage is law, then the government would see a black father as irrelevant to a black family just as it would see a black wife as unimportant in a black marriage.
Non sequitur.
Brian_G wrote:
Try to think through the consequences of your radical new social policy. It won't be pretty.
What consequences?

Since: Apr 11

Panorama City, CA

#7489 Oct 8, 2012
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, but just as adults and children are different under the law, so are men and women.
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<quoted text>There is the right to life, all life has the right to protect itself.
Slaves didn't have a right to life, stupid.
.
<quoted text>No, adults and children don't share the same rights, just as men and women are unequal under the law.
.
<quoted text>The above quote justifies 'equal protection of the laws', not gender equality. There is no gender equality right in the Constitution.
14th Amendment. WTF do you think 'equal protection of the laws' of the laws means? If men have to follow different laws than women do, that's not equal protection. No way around that.

Since: Apr 11

Panorama City, CA

#7490 Oct 8, 2012
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Even RnL admits, men and women have unequal life experience.
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<quoted text>Romney has pledged to allow the people of D.C. decide the issue of marriage.
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<quoted text>The issue isn't 'his family' or 'her marriage', the law affects everyone so the issue is all families and all marriages. Same sex marriage law would make a mother irrelevant to every family in the eyes of the law, just as it would make every husband irrelevant to every marriage. This is the consequence of creating gender blind laws.
That makes no sense at all.
Imagine you were still married. If a gay couple got married somewhere in your state, would your wife become irrelevant to you?
How long would it take? Would she instantly become irrelevant to you the moment the gay couple exchanged their vows? Would you have to know about their marriage, or would "gay rays" emanate from them that would somehow make her irrelevant?

Since: Apr 11

Panorama City, CA

#7491 Oct 8, 2012
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>When government recognizes two men as a married couple, the law says a wife is irrelevant to that marriage. By extension, if a child is in custody of that 'married' couple, the law would say a mother is irrelevant to that family. Put another way, same sex marriage means a black father is irrelevant in a black family and a black wife is irrelevant in a black marriage.
I'm glad that's' finally cleared up.
Rose's Law: Morons with no real argument scream, "But what about the children!?"

DNF

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Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#7492 Oct 8, 2012
Rose_NoHo wrote:
<quoted text>
Rose's Law: Morons with no real argument scream, "But what about the children!?"
Followed closely by, "The biggest threat facing our nation today is..."

Since: Apr 11

Panorama City, CA

#7493 Oct 8, 2012
DNF wrote:
<quoted text>Followed closely by, "The biggest threat facing our nation today is..."
LOL. So true.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#7494 Oct 8, 2012
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Men and women are by no means equal, in law or in nature. Take the issue of abortion, only women have the right to kill their unborn, if a man tried to exercise this abortion 'right' without the consent of the women, it would be illegal.
Only women have the experience of menstruation, pregnancy, childbirth, breast nursing and menopause. Men have no equal experience, men and women are unequal.
Same sex marriage treats people as if they are unisex. If same sex marriage is law, then the government would see a black father as irrelevant to a black family just as it would see a black wife as unimportant in a black marriage.
Try to think through the consequences of your radical new social policy. It won't be pretty.
What is radical about two people of the same sex getting married. I can think of nothing more conservative than making a marriage commitment to another person. I can see no negative consequences coming from such a commitment, only positive. Are you drinking bitter beer?

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Since: Dec 07

Aptos, California

#7495 Oct 8, 2012
WaterBoarder wrote:
<quoted text>
Then why bother? If SO MANY kids have gay parents and these kids have friends who are aware of the situation then what is the point at all?
The point is to teach all these little ones that being gay is normal, healthy, and moral. That way we can use the public school system to eradicate all that nasty homophobia with have in society.
Sounds like a great plan...eh?
No you are misguided. It is about teaching respect and self-acceptance. There is nothing wrong with being gay. It is perfectly normal for a gay person to be gay.
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Little Rock, AR

#7497 Oct 9, 2012
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hobama has FAILED in every way!!!

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no homes
no jobs
no hope
no change
no black agenda
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hobamacare hoax
ETC!!!

nobama 2012!!!

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DNF

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Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#7499 Oct 10, 2012
ALICIA BANKS wrote:
hobama is pimping gays and latinos for votes!
hobama has FAILED in every way!!!
7 wars!!!
wwiii/war 8 in iran looms!
no peace
no homes
no jobs
no hope
no change
no black agenda
ndaa
africom
sopa
cispa
solyndra
hobamacare hoax
ETC!!!
nobama 2012!!!
go mitt!!!!!!!
http://aliciabanks.xanga.com/758055237/happy-...
http://aliciabanks.xanga.com/732464570/obamac...
The Buddha compared people to four kinds of clay vessels. One type of vessel has holes in the bottom. We can pour in as much water as we like and it runs right out. When this type of person hears the Dharma, it goes in one ear and out the other. The second type of vessel has cracks. Though we pour in the Dharma, it seeps out slowly until the vessel is empty again. The third vessel is full to the brim with stale water--views and opinions. One can't pour anything new in, everything is already known. The only useful vessel is the fourth, without holes or cracks and totally empty.
- Ayya Khema, "Be An Island"

Now guess which jar you are.

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#7500 Oct 10, 2012
ALICIA BANKS wrote:
hobama is pimping gays and latinos for votes!
hobama has FAILED in every way!!!
7 wars!!!
wwiii/war 8 in iran looms!
no peace
no homes
no jobs
no hope
no change
no black agenda
ndaa
africom
sopa
cispa
solyndra
hobamacare hoax
ETC!!!
nobama 2012!!!
go mitt!!!!!!!
http://aliciabanks.xanga.com/758055237/happy-...
http://aliciabanks.xanga.com/732464570/obamac...
Another moronic post.

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#7501 Oct 10, 2012
DNF wrote:
<quoted text>The Buddha compared people to four kinds of clay vessels. One type of vessel has holes in the bottom. We can pour in as much water as we like and it runs right out. When this type of person hears the Dharma, it goes in one ear and out the other. The second type of vessel has cracks. Though we pour in the Dharma, it seeps out slowly until the vessel is empty again. The third vessel is full to the brim with stale water--views and opinions. One can't pour anything new in, everything is already known. The only useful vessel is the fourth, without holes or cracks and totally empty.
- Ayya Khema, "Be An Island"
Now guess which jar you are.
Beautiful. Makes perfect sense to me.

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