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Dan C

Roseville, CA

#513 Dec 4, 2012
Jane Dough wrote:
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classic Dan.
"make sure the couple is not closely related".
Say Dan, why do we do that?
Procreation concerns?
at the time of MARRIAGE?
But they are not related at all, right?
Should we do so for gays?
WHY???
Thanks for pointing out a rational difference....
Err.......gays aren't getting married and having their own offspring. Hence the homosexuality aspect.

That would be a big birds and the bees fail on your behalf BTW.

LOL!!!
Dan C

Roseville, CA

#514 Dec 4, 2012
Jane Dough wrote:
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That's the part i apparently have to do to have a few rational discussions around here...
I don't love it, but I don;t fear it that's for sure...
You do appreciate that many on your side literally try to bully people off the board, right?
Pointing out facts over your lost opinions is not really a form of bullying.

FYI sister.

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Since: Jan 08

Defiance, Ohio

#515 Dec 4, 2012
Moan a Lott wrote:
Or maybe I shouldn't have announced the name change...
but I think Mona will like it!
Congratulations Jane. If they look like a troll and act like a troll...

How big of you to tacitly admit what we already knew to be the truth.
Jane Dough

Montpelier, VT

#516 Dec 4, 2012
Dan C wrote:
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Err.......gays aren't getting married and having their own offspring. Hence the homosexuality aspect.
I get that, and hence the no "marriage right" aspect...
see how that works?
Jane Dough

Montpelier, VT

#517 Dec 4, 2012
Dan C wrote:
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Pointing out facts over your lost opinions is not really a form of bullying.
FYI sister.
where, Dan, do you think you did that?

and no, disputing an opinion itself wouldn't be, but insults and badgering are bullying right?

“TAKIA AND TA TONKA”

Since: Aug 08

HAPPY TOGETHER!!!

#518 Dec 4, 2012
Jupiter wrote:
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I've seen Dan in other posts long before you jumped in and believe me, he's straight.
I personally know Dan and his wife......yep, his really straight......lol:-)
Dan C

Roseville, CA

#519 Dec 4, 2012
Jane Dough wrote:
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I get that, and hence the no "marriage right" aspect...
see how that works?
No....given procreation is not a requirement to marry.

Add to that you forgot there already are gay couples that ARE married.
Dan C

Roseville, CA

#520 Dec 4, 2012
Jane Dough wrote:
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where, Dan, do you think you did that?
and no, disputing an opinion itself wouldn't be, but insults and badgering are bullying right?
If you think I 'badger' you I apoligize. With your continued insults towards others I never knew you were that sensitive.

But understand...if I were to call you a hypocritical bitch over your stance others come down on you it is merely a form a identifying what you illustrate yourself to be.

LOL!!!
Jane Dough

Montpelier, VT

#521 Dec 4, 2012
lides wrote:
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Congratulations Jane. If they look like a troll and act like a troll...
yes, you do.

lighten up francis...
its a joke at Mona's expense.
Jane Dough

Montpelier, VT

#522 Dec 4, 2012
Dan C wrote:
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If you think I 'badger' you I apoligize. With your continued insults towards others I never knew you were that sensitive.
But understand...if I were to call you a hypocritical bitch over your stance others come down on you it is merely a form a identifying what you illustrate yourself to be.
LOL!!!
are you translating this from another language or something?
it reads like instructions from ikea.
Dan C

Roseville, CA

#523 Dec 4, 2012
Jane Dough wrote:
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are you translating this from another language or something?
it reads like instructions from ikea.
Lady(???),

They could be an instructional pamphlet on how to successfully open a box of Cheerios, pour it into a bowl and add milk and sugar for a morning breakfast and you no doubt would be just as lost.

LOL!!!!

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Since: Jan 08

Defiance, Ohio

#524 Dec 4, 2012
Jane Dough wrote:
yes, you do.
lighten up francis...
its a joke at Mona's expense.
Funny, I don't change my name in a transparent attempt to post as other users, frequently copy clip from legal decisions that have been superseded by acts of the legislature, and fail to support my argument.

The reality is that in the end you side will lose, because your argument is patently unconstitutional. You would like to hold fellow US citizens as second class citizens with less than equal protection of the law. Every time that an attempt has been made to sustain such unequal protections of the law based upon historical precedent it is failed. It failed when the attempt was made to deny interracial couples the right to marry; it failed when the attempt was made to segregate the races; it failed when the attempt was made to deny women the right to vote; and perhaps most famously, it failed when the attempt was made to keep the slave trade going.

Equality will come to pass, because those like yourself can't present a single rational argument against it.
Jane Dough

Montpelier, VT

#525 Dec 4, 2012
Dan C wrote:
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Lady(???),
They could be an instructional pamphlet on how to successfully open a box of Cheerios, pour it into a bowl and add milk and sugar for a morning breakfast and you no doubt would be just as lost.
LOL!!!!
are you claiming that post was well written or do you wish you could take it back?

BTW, LOL or typed out laughter says to me: "ignore this poster"...
Jane Dough

Montpelier, VT

#526 Dec 4, 2012
lides wrote:
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Funny, I don't change my name in a transparent attempt to post as other users,
glad you saw is was transparent, and thus not "devious"...
again, it was a joke...
lides wrote:
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frequently copy clip from legal decisions
yah, you NEVER do that no matter how many times I ask you to support yourself, you NEVER will!
its funny you see me citing exactly io where courts have said what I am saying as a weakness...
lides wrote:
<quoted text>
clip from legal decisions that have been superseded by acts of the legislature,
nope you used one overturned by the 9th circuit which I proved to you.
yet you fail to prove hernandez was "superceded" and I notice you don't say overruled...
and that you bring this up rather than address the content of those cut and pastes which you also NEVER DO...

and you get so worked up...calm down skippy...its not life and death !
AzAdam

United States

#527 Dec 4, 2012
Jane Dough wrote:
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I get that, and hence the no "marriage right" aspect...
see how that works?
I think that suggesting that marrying your sister is illegal only because of procreation is a little disingenuous. Gay marriage laws still exclude close relatives as spouses and no procreation concerns exist. Nice try though.

“Alley Cat Blues”

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#528 Dec 4, 2012
Jane Dough wrote:
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are you claiming that post was well written or do you wish you could take it back?
BTW, LOL or typed out laughter says to me: "ignore this poster"...
But you didn't, did you?
Dan C

Roseville, CA

#529 Dec 4, 2012
Jane Dough wrote:
<quoted text>
are you claiming that post was well written or do you wish you could take it back?
BTW, LOL or typed out laughter says to me: "ignore this poster"...
LOL!!!

--Hopefully you'll get it.

And no...I do not wish to 'take it back' idiot.
Jane Dough

Montpelier, VT

#530 Dec 4, 2012
AzAdam wrote:
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I think that suggesting that marrying your sister is illegal only because of procreation is a little disingenuous.
then what is the reason we do this?
AzAdam wrote:
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Gay marriage laws still exclude close relatives as spouses and no procreation concerns exist. Nice try though.
but why should they?
that's the whole point.
see, a rational difference...
Jane Dough

Montpelier, VT

#531 Dec 4, 2012
Jupiter wrote:
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But you didn't, did you?
I though a fair warning was appropriate.
do you see something wrong with that?
Dan C

Roseville, CA

#532 Dec 4, 2012
Jane Dough wrote:
<quoted text>
glad you saw is was transparent, and thus not "devious"...
again, it was a joke...
<quoted text>
yah, you NEVER do that no matter how many times I ask you to support yourself, you NEVER will!
its funny you see me citing exactly io where courts have said what I am saying as a weakness...
<quoted text>
nope you used one overturned by the 9th circuit which I proved to you.
yet you fail to prove hernandez was "superceded" and I notice you don't say overruled...
and that you bring this up rather than address the content of those cut and pastes which you also NEVER DO...
and you get so worked up...calm down skippy...its not life and death !
Though I doubt you'll comprehend I wnted to point out rulings and decisions regarding this aspect of allowing gays to marry will eventually have to abide by the Constitution and what we are as a free nation and for that I can only see those holding barriers against gay marriage as an eroding wall which will one day fall completely.

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