'I Have the Right to Refuse Service':...

'I Have the Right to Refuse Service': Restaurant Turns Away Group After He Learns What They Advocate

There are 61 comments on the www.theblaze.com story from Feb 13, 2013, titled 'I Have the Right to Refuse Service': Restaurant Turns Away Group After He Learns What They Advocate. In it, www.theblaze.com reports that:

An Arkansas-based gay right's organization is claiming discrimination after the owner of a restaurant cancelled the group's reservations.

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DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#21 Feb 14, 2013
snyper wrote:
In an overwhelmingly fundie State like Arkansas it is unwise to feed material to the pulpit pounders.
You have a point, I agree.

But it ignores the "pulpit pounders" who support us.

We both know the anti-gays will always have something they'll use to promote their religious discrimination. Look at the number of times Saul Alinksky is used by the anti-gays on here. Look at the number of times they misrepresent the Baker decision to support their claims.

Have you noticed the trend even on here where they no longer use the "let the people decide" card? They are seeing how that can back-fire.

Frankly my friend I hope you'll think about the ammunition your own posts are giving these same pulpit pounders. Do you honestly think there isn't some fundie minister somewhere writing his Sunday sermon now and using you as an example of how "even gay people support us"?
The Worlds Biggest Lie

Amherst, MA

#22 Feb 14, 2013
DNF wrote:
People like these are trying to use the law to protect them. Problem is the law clearly states religious discrimination is against the law.
These "chriSTAINS" are driving people away from Christianity more than gays and lesbians are. How? By not following the parts of the Bible and their own faith that instruct us to Love our enemies as ourselves and to obey secular laws.
Using Jesus to promote self serving self righteous judgement (and your business) isn't the Christianity I was raised with.
The only thing driving anyone away from any form of spirituality is the subversion and decadence of this nation. Hence all the divorces, diseases, obesity, substance abuse, abortions, queers, murderers, molesters, thieves, welfare system, animal performers, bankruptcy, taxes, pornography, wars, greed, pollution. The list goes on and on and on. You are on that list.
It has everything to do with the Ashkezar's. THINK!
The Worlds Biggest Lie

Amherst, MA

#23 Feb 14, 2013
And very little to do about Christains or Muslims.
You people just need someone to bring down with you.
It's like the child that could never get their way yet father Obama lends you an ear because he could care less about the family structure or wedlock.

Show me a good loser and I'll show you a loser.
Liberalism and this President are destroying America from the inside out.
Homosexuality is part of that plan.
The Worlds Biggest Lie

Amherst, MA

#24 Feb 14, 2013
An open border policy is part of that plan also.
A central bank sucking the wealth out of all of us is also part of that plan.
The banksters must go
The tax code must go
The govt must go
The profiteers must go
Our govt is terminally ill because of our special relationship with mostly an anti semetic group of people keeping us over 'thar'

Start all over. Locally and with the color red within our governing process.
The Worlds Biggest Lie

Amherst, MA

#25 Feb 14, 2013
Goodbye Rome

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#26 Feb 14, 2013
The Worlds Biggest Lie wrote:
<quoted text>
The only thing driving anyone away from any form of spirituality is the subversion and decadence of this nation.
That's what I just said. But you blame gays and lesbians, liberals and the rest of your laundry list instead of taking responsibility for voting for the people who practice what you yourself condemn.

From Ronnie Raygun to the Shrub this nation has been on a Keynesian Cocaine high. Stop blaming me for it.
The American Genocide

Amherst, MA

#27 Feb 14, 2013
DNF wrote:
<quoted text>That's what I just said. But you blame gays and lesbians, liberals and the rest of your laundry list instead of taking responsibility for voting for the people who practice what you yourself condemn.
From Ronnie Raygun to the Shrub this nation has been on a Keynesian Cocaine high. Stop blaming me for it.
If you think for one second that you're some kind of new age messiah then think again. Your kind, that's right, your kind has been very influential out on the left coast with what comes through on the television to polarize our youth for a very long time now. Cocaine? The drug culture (meth) is very very popular among gay men. Guilty!
The American Genocide

Amherst, MA

#28 Feb 14, 2013
The fed
Follyhood
Homosexuality
[email protected]
Pornography
Hardcore drugs
The tax code
Corporate profiteers

and so much more.

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#29 Feb 14, 2013
The American Genocide wrote:
<quoted text>
If you think for one second that you're some kind of new age messiah then think again. Your kind, that's right, your kind has been very influential out on the left coast with what comes through on the television to polarize our youth for a very long time now. Cocaine? The drug culture (meth) is very very popular among gay men. Guilty!
(sighing)

I'd love to take credit for the "Keynesian Cocaine " phrase but I got it from watching a House panel discuss the military budget with 3 of the world's leading economists.

As for your other veiled claim blaming the drug industry on gays and lesbians, shall we look at how many leaders of drug cartels are gay and how many aren't?

Like someone on here said about the black community. How many rich black families own their fortune to drug smuggling compared to whites and other groups?

Keep launching your torpedoes at me. I love watching them sink your own ship.

As for the new Messiah, I doubt you and most anti-gay religious fundamentalists would recognize Him.
sickofit

Northfield, MN

#30 Feb 14, 2013
Is it ok to refuse service to a christian???
The Worlds Biggest Lie

Amherst, MA

#31 Feb 14, 2013
DNF wrote:
<quoted text>(sighing)
I'd love to take credit for the "Keynesian Cocaine " phrase but I got it from watching a House panel discuss the military budget with 3 of the world's leading economists.
As for your other veiled claim blaming the drug industry on gays and lesbians, shall we look at how many leaders of drug cartels are gay and how many aren't?
Like someone on here said about the black community. How many rich black families own their fortune to drug smuggling compared to whites and other groups?
Keep launching your torpedoes at me. I love watching them sink your own ship.
As for the new Messiah, I doubt you and most anti-gay religious fundamentalists would recognize Him.
No. The torpedo that is ss parenting sunk your carnival cruise long ago. There's no way around it starting with conception itself.
The childs basic 'human rights' have been violated.
The govt engages in child traficking

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#32 Feb 14, 2013
sickofit wrote:
Is it ok to refuse service to a christian???
I guess it depends on how the bigot defines who is a Christian! Much like this case does.
sickofit

Northfield, MN

#33 Feb 14, 2013
Tell you what. I know for FACT of two stores who blocked christians groups who got fined and legal action taken againt them....TWO WAY STREET???

NOPE CHRISTIANS SEEM TO THINK THEY ARE ONLY ONES WHO GET FREEDOM AND EQUALITY.
The Worlds Biggest Lie

Amherst, MA

#34 Feb 14, 2013
DNF wrote:
<quoted text>I guess it depends on how the bigot defines who is a Christian! Much like this case does.
I suppose you're one of God's chosen people too right? Or did you convert to their faith?

Lililth_Satans_B ore

Since: May 12

Bellevue, WA

#35 Feb 14, 2013
christains are revolting discusting creatures

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#36 Feb 14, 2013
sickofit wrote:
Tell you what. I know for FACT of two stores who blocked christians groups who got fined and legal action taken againt them....TWO WAY STREET???
NOPE CHRISTIANS SEEM TO THINK THEY ARE ONLY ONES WHO GET FREEDOM AND EQUALITY.
As well they should have. If you ever come across more stories PLEASE use Topix messenger and send them to me.

I'll be more than happy to post them on the Religion forum where I am also an editor.

As a Christian and gay man please don't lump me in with the "chriSTAINS". I also urge you to check out:

http://paganwiccan.about.com/od/yourlegalrigh...

"There are a number of groups in the United States that focus on religious freedom and first amendment rights. These watchdog organizations are typically at the forefront of legal cases involving religious discrimination, hate crimes, and the separation of church and state. Some of them have a specific focus, like the Military Religious Freedom Foundation, which addresses issues of concern to service members. Others are more general, and work for the rights of all Americans equally.

It should be noted that while watchdog groups do exist in other countries, this article is specifically about the organizations that are active in the United States...

Americans United for Separation of Church and State, or AU, is a non-profit group which does exactly what its name indicates. AU works consistently towards maintaining the wall of separation between church and state, as a way “to ensure religious freedom for all Americans....

The Freedom From Religion Foundation (FFRF) is a non-profit organization founded in 1978 in Wisconsin that “works to educate the public on matters relating to nontheism, and to promote the constitutional principle of separation between church and state.” Most of its members consider themselves “freethinkers,” and are self-described atheists, agnostics, and skeptics. The group has been involved in a number of well-publicized cases, including the National Day of Prayer and the Green Bay pentacle case.

According to the organization’s website,“The purposes of the Freedom From Religion Foundation, Inc., as stated in its bylaws, are to promote the constitutional principle of separation of state and church, and to educate the public on matters relating to nontheism....The Military Religious Freedom Foundation (MRFF) is a group dedicated to protecting the religious freedoms and rights of American service personnel, both at home and abroad. According to their website, "MRFF believes that religious faith is a Constitutionally guaranteed freedom that must never be compromised, except in the most limited of military circumstances, because of its fundamental importance to the preservation of the American nation and the American way of life....

While not specifically focused on religious freedom, the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) has often been at the forefront of civil rights litigation... The ACLU regularly comes under fire from conservative and religious right organizations, who believe the group unfairly represents liberal interests over the rights of America’s Christians. However, the ACLU has represented Christian plaintiffs in a number of important cases."

Also: "International Religious Freedom Advocacy: A Guide to Organizations, Law, and NGOs is a unique guidebook for engagement, providing helpful insights into the tangled web of international organizations, international law, and non-governmental organizations that work to advance religious freedom worldwide. This handbook focuses on the practical; it is neither an exhaustive encyclopedia nor an academic treatise debating the "theology" of religious freedom. It is a user-friendly, straightforward tool for empowering would-be advocates to effectively promote religious freedom."
http://www.globalengage.org/research/books/83...

"

Lililth_Satans_B ore

Since: May 12

Bellevue, WA

#37 Feb 14, 2013
The Worlds Biggest Lie wrote:
<quoted text>
I suppose you're one of God's chosen people too right? Or did you convert to their faith?
you sure as fluck aren't

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#38 Feb 14, 2013
The Worlds Biggest Lie wrote:
<quoted text>
I suppose you're one of God's chosen people too right? Or did you convert to their faith?
I don't believe in the concept of "God's Chosen People".

If you really want to know I even delayed my confirmation in the Presbyterian faith till I was 17 and I felt adult and mature enough to willingly declare publicly I choose Christ as my savior. It was pretty weird standing next to so many 13 and 14 year olds,

Many congregation members asked afterward why I waited so long and supported my reasons.

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#39 Feb 14, 2013
Lililth_Satans_Bore wrote:
<quoted text>you sure as fluck aren't
Thanks dear. Big Hugs.

Lililth_Satans_B ore

Since: May 12

Bellevue, WA

#40 Feb 14, 2013
DNF wrote:
<quoted text>Thanks dear. Big Hugs.
yw

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