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Regina Mineral VA

Newport News, VA

#64 Jul 19, 2013
Hmmmmm wrote:
<quoted text>
On that note, I am now opposed to gay marriage since Regina implies it will make us all gay. I like the opposite sex. I won't stand for the laws changing my mind about my sexuality.(Actually, I prefer farm animals, but I keep that to myself).
I did not imply that if left alone everyone would turn gay. If you are going to refer to my comment at least refer to it accurately. What I said was that homosexuality has the ability to stop the human race. One homosexual couple cannot procreate, therefore, their lineage stops and so on....

It amazes me that people will take one statement and insert their own belief into it trying to make the other person seem unintelligent. Sorry, getting mad and ranting about me does not do anything but show me that I accomplished what I set out to...make you think. You cannot argue with what I said so, therefore, you become insulting. I am sitting here calmly writing about my beliefs, that is all. You believe what you will, that is what our country is about.
Regina Mineral VA

Newport News, VA

#65 Jul 19, 2013
huck wrote:
<quoted text>
there's this little thing called modern science and artificial insemination
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topix changed your city to KS because mineral wasn't quite wackoconservative enough
Duh, it still requires the opposite sex does it not?

I am not sure why it came up as Kansas, but attacking my place of residence just proves my theory. You cannot support your beliefs so, therefore, you get angry and insulting.
huck

Charlottesville, VA

#66 Jul 19, 2013
Regina Mineral VA wrote:
<quoted text>
Duh, it still requires the opposite sex does it not?
I am not sure why it came up as Kansas, but attacking my place of residence just proves my theory. You cannot support your beliefs so, therefore, you get angry and insulting.
No. You wrote:
"If left alone, as you say, homosexuality has the potential to destroy the human race."
'homosexuality' does not preclude the other sex' existence, and artificial insemination is already in use
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insulting perhaps, but rarely angry
Regina Mineral VA

Newport News, VA

#67 Jul 19, 2013
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>I am well aware of that dear, most of them praying that God hates homosexuals/homosexuality/homo sexual acts as much as they do. <quoted text>Yes dear, it does say that, but you yourself do not follow the teachings of that particular book, now do you? <quoted text>I wonder how God feels about your rewrite. I myself have never seen a version of the Bible which includes, "(which means homosexual)" in that particular text. FYI, the word translated to "effeminate" in the KJV and later English versions of this verse was translated as "soft", every other time it was used in the book. Christians originally taught its meaning as those having soft morals. <quoted text>You are the one who has misunderstood them both, you tell me. <quoted text>No he didn't dear, I've read the Bible, I know better. It isn't even listed among the reasons for God's wrath. Sorry. <quoted text>Sweetie, you go right ahead and pray what you want, but if you are of the notion that the Bible actually says it agrees with them, think again.
Not sure what bible you are reading, I prefer the KJV. As far as the comment I made in parentheses, that was why it was in parentheses, it was MY comment. Looking back, I agree it should have been placed outside of the scripture quote. So you accomplished one thing, you made me do a grammar correction. Sorry, I am not perfect.

Obviously, you have not read the Bible enough to know what really happened in Sodom and Gomorrah. Just so there is no confusion, this is me paraphrasing-Two angels came to visit Lot, and the men of the town told Lot to send them out because they wanted to "know" them. Know, in this reference, means, have sex with them. You can tell this because it goes on to say that Lot pleads with them and offers his two virgin daughters to them instead. The two cities was destroyed because of homosexuality.

You know what they say, the truth hurts. I believe what I believe and I can go to stand before my heavenly father when I die with those beliefs. Am I perfect, no, I cannot be, I am human.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#68 Jul 19, 2013
Regina Mineral VA wrote:
Not sure what bible you are reading, I prefer the KJV.
I've read that one too, in addition to a number of other versions.
Regina Mineral VA wrote:
As far as the comment I made in parentheses, that was why it was in parentheses, it was MY comment.
I'm aware of that dear, that is why I called it YOUR rewrite.
Regina Mineral VA wrote:
Looking back, I agree it should have been placed outside of the scripture quote.
Given that you were wrong, you shouldn't have said it at all dear.
Regina Mineral VA wrote:
So you accomplished one thing, you made me do a grammar correction. Sorry, I am not perfect.
I didn't correct your grammar dear, I pointed out that you were rewriting the Bible to your own ends.
Regina Mineral VA wrote:
Obviously, you have not read the Bible enough to know what really happened in Sodom and Gomorrah.
And once again you would be sadly mistaken, but I'll wait and see where you are going with this.
Regina Mineral VA wrote:
Just so there is no confusion, this is me paraphrasing-Two angels came to visit Lot, and the men of the town told Lot to send them out because they wanted to "know" them. Know, in this reference, means, have sex with them. You can tell this because it goes on to say that Lot pleads with them and offers his two virgin daughters to them instead. The two cities was destroyed because of homosexuality.
No dear, they weren't. Go read Ezekiel 16:49-50, it doesn't even rate a mention among the reasons, let alone as the only one. The abomination committed before God was the death threat issued against the men in Lot's house, NOT homosexuality, homosexuals or even homosexual acts that did not take place.
Regina Mineral VA wrote:
You know what they say, the truth hurts.
Given that you have yet to offer any to me, I wouldn't know.
Regina Mineral VA wrote:
I believe what I believe and I can go to stand before my heavenly father when I die with those beliefs. Am I perfect, no, I cannot be, I am human.
If those are the the belief choices you want to stand before Him with, good luck with that, you're going to need it.
The Dude

Bumpass, VA

#69 Jul 19, 2013
Regina Mineral VA wrote:
<quoted text>
You could not answer my questions, so you instead get mad and tell me that my questions are juvenile. It is very interesting to me that I have asked the same questions to other people who believe the same way that you do and I get the same response...nothing. You know the answer, you just refuse to admit it. As far as giving you the same respect for your beliefs. I did not say that you had to believe the way I do, that is your choice. I do not try to force anyone to believe in God, nor does He. It is freewill. I just do not agree that the homosexual agenda is fair, they are trying to force their beliefs down our throats. For example, they take a religious symbol such as the rainbow and make it their symbol. God gave us the rainbow as a sign of promise that He would never again flood the earth interesting enough because the world was so wicked much as it is now. Christian beliefs are being trampled on constantly, and we are getting tired of being expected to conform to a worldly view. Believe the way you choose, that is between you and yes, God.
And you refuse to answer mine.
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Is it a religious issue?
ya think

Rocky Mount, VA

#70 Jul 19, 2013
You sure do use the word "dear" a lot. So are you trying to be sarcastic, or condescending, or both?
Hmmmmm

Palmyra, VA

#72 Jul 19, 2013
Regina Mineral VA wrote:
<quoted text>
You could not answer my questions, so you instead get mad and tell me that my questions are juvenile. It is very interesting to me that I have asked the same questions to other people who believe the same way that you do and I get the same response...nothing. You know the answer, you just refuse to admit it. As far as giving you the same respect for your beliefs. I did not say that you had to believe the way I do, that is your choice. I do not try to force anyone to believe in God, nor does He. It is freewill. I just do not agree that the homosexual agenda is fair, they are trying to force their beliefs down our throats. For example, they take a religious symbol such as the rainbow and make it their symbol. God gave us the rainbow as a sign of promise that He would never again flood the earth interesting enough because the world was so wicked much as it is now. Christian beliefs are being trampled on constantly, and we are getting tired of being expected to conform to a worldly view. Believe the way you choose, that is between you and yes, God.
Regina, I did not get mad, nor call you juvenile. I called your post regarding proof of god Pascal's Wager juvenile. I called your post about it juvenile simply because it was. By about 10yrs old most everyone has has those arguments and tired of them in the same way they tire of tic-tac-toe. The outcome is predictable. All of the moves are predictable. It's pretty pointless. You present it like you really have something there. But you don't. It's just juvenile.

On a more general note, no one is trying to force anything down your throat Regina. And your delusions of persecution, wrapped as they are in pages of the bible is simply no basis whatsoever public policy.
ya think

Rocky Mount, VA

#74 Jul 19, 2013
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>Neither, merely trying to be nice... have to keep telling idiots they are being an idiot.
If you are trying to be nice... it isn't working. I personally do not agree with you, but I wouldn't call you an idiot.
G Luv

Charlottesville, VA

#75 Jul 19, 2013
Hmmmmm wrote:
<quoted text>
On that note, I am now opposed to gay marriage since Regina implies it will make us all gay. I like the opposite sex. I won't stand for the laws changing my mind about my sexuality.(Actually, I prefer farm animals, but I keep that to myself).
I've also given up on breathing because, logically, I cannot be sure there is anything called "air".

(Save your applause, people.)
G Luv

Charlottesville, VA

#76 Jul 19, 2013
Regina Mineral VA wrote:
<quoted text>
You know what they say, the truth hurts.
A lot of people say that around here. I don't think they realize how silly it sounds.
Regina

Glen Allen, VA

#77 Jul 19, 2013
The Dude wrote:
<quoted text>And you refuse to answer mine.
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Is it a religious issue?
Yes, it is a moral issue.
Regina

Glen Allen, VA

#78 Jul 19, 2013
As my final comment, we will agree to disagree and let God settle the matter on Judgement Day. As I said before I have a clear conscience about what I said. I remained respectful, you guys on the other hand...
G Luv

Charlottesville, VA

#79 Jul 19, 2013
Regina wrote:
"we will agree to disagree and let God settle the matter on Judgement Day."
This is not "agreeing to disagree".

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#80 Jul 19, 2013
Regina wrote:
As my final comment, we will agree to disagree and let God settle the matter on Judgement Day. As I said before I have a clear conscience about what I said. I remained respectful, you guys on the other hand...
I'm so happy you have a clear conscience about what you believe and how respectful you believe yourself to have been about it, but having been on the receiving of yet another respectful version of the Phelps Family Freak Show of Hate message that "God hates ***s", maybe you can understand the hostility to it you received from me. I'm going to have to remind you that you are clearly misinformed about what the Bible has to say and why it says it. Your beliefs maybe sincere, but you have been schooled by someone who doesn't even identify as Christian. I suggest you read it, not in bits and pieces, but from start to finish, from Genesis to Revelation. Then actually learn about these books, where they come from, what is really known about them, it really is a fascinating study.

Everybody has a right to their beliefs, you have a right to the respect of your beliefs in your person, your home and your place of worship, but if you are going to ride that moral high horse of yours into this public square, not so much. I have no expectation of respect for my beliefs simply because they are my beliefs. I lay out my opinions and the information which actually backs them up and leave it at that.
Regina Mineral VA

Richmond, VA

#81 Jul 19, 2013
Romans 1:25-28 - Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

Leviticus 20:13 - If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Not my words, the Holy Word of God. What part of this can be misunderstood? My suggestion to all of you who did not like what I said, I have a right to state my beliefs just as you were doing. The interesting thing is the only people that you jumped on were the ones who used the Bible to back up what they said. So who are you really angry at, us or God. Just a thought, if God was really approving of gay marriage, then why did he not create both sexes to have the ability to create life. He did not do that though, a woman has to have a man to create life. You can spout artificial insemination, etc., but it still takes a man and a woman. Any time that God was asked about marriage, he referred back to one man, one woman. That is what God's only intention for marriage is.

The Bible says that you are not supposed to argue with someone who refuses to hear the Word of God. So end of story and end of my comments.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#82 Jul 19, 2013
Regina Mineral VA wrote:
Romans 1:25-28 - Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
The verses before it and after conveniently forgotten, but not by me. Paul is letting the Christians of Rome know that he has heard that they have been worshiping other Gods, that God knows and He is getting even. Paul's message, if you walk away from God in violation of His First Commandment, God says you're f'd, both figuratively and literally. He will walk away and as recompense for the sin that you have been engaging, He has left you to a reprobate mind. To deliver that message, welcome to the same sex orgy. Paul had no understanding of people actually being homosexual, he knew about same sex sex, but that isn't the same thing, same sex sex has never required the participation of anyone even remotely homosexual. Paul was assuming the Christians of Rome to be heterosexual and this acting against their nature in service to another God, a wake up call to them. You might want to keep reading at least to the end of the chapter, you'll find one or more of the "sins" that God gave folk over to resemble you at the moment.
Regina Mineral VA wrote:
Lev. 20:13 - If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
Another quote from a book which you do not follow to its letter, despite its most frequently repeated commandment, to follow ALL of them. Just so you know, the people who actually follow that particular book more than ANY Christian ever has, you know, Jews, they've largely rejected this passage except for the most Orthodox and even they are reexamining its true meaning. Besides, Jesus was the fulfillment of the requirements of the old law, anything not covered by the 10 Commandments, not applicable to His followers. Jesus himself never even mentions the subject.
Regina Mineral VA wrote:
Not my words, the Holy Word of God.
Yes, they are.
Regina Mineral VA wrote:
What part of this can be misunderstood?
That's the question I keep asking you? It's all their in black and white and yet you have no real understanding as to why.
Regina Mineral VA wrote:
My suggestion to all of you who did not like what I said, I have a right to state my beliefs just as you were doing.
No disagreement there.
Regina Mineral VA wrote:
The interesting thing is the only people that you jumped on were the ones who used the Bible to back up what they said.
But the Bible DOESN'T back up what you've said. I've been using the Bible itself to point that out. I jumped on you because you pray that God hates us, or what we do, or who we are, or some such nonsense and I don't consider that nice or Christian.

continued

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#83 Jul 19, 2013
Regina Mineral VA wrote:
So who are you really angry at, us or God.
Your choice of beliefs dear, just because YOU blame God for them, doesn't mean I do.
Regina Mineral VA wrote:
Just a thought, if God was really approving of gay marriage, then why did he not create both sexes to have the ability to create life. He did not do that though, a woman has to have a man to create life.But they don't You can spout artificial insemination, etc., but it still takes a man and a woman.
He did dear, homosexual isn't a synonym for sterile and folk figured out ages and ages ago that the sperm donor and the egg carrier don't have to even be in the same room for the miracle of conception to occur. The advances of modern science have only made such things less hit or miss, they didn't invent the idea.
Regina Mineral VA wrote:
Any time that God was asked about marriage, he referred back to one man, one woman. That is what God's only intention for marriage is.
God was never asked about same sex marriages and thus you are merely presuming His answer. Many Christians are of the belief that God loves His lesbian and gay children just as He created us to be and that He wants us to be happy in this life and to not be alone and so He will bless us in marriage. They may not be your kind of Christians, but you are only praying that they aren't God's kind of Christian.
Regina Mineral VA wrote:
The Bible says that you are not supposed to argue with someone who refuses to hear the Word of God. So end of story and end of my comments.
I haven't refused to listen to the Word of God you fraud, my problem is with the word of Regina Mineral Va and in spite of your certitude, not one and the same thing.
The Dude

Bumpass, VA

#84 Jul 20, 2013
Regina wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, it is a moral issue.
religious or moral? The two are not one in the same.

Since: Mar 07

Hanover, VA

#85 Jul 20, 2013
Regina Mineral VA wrote:
<quoted text>
I did not imply that if left alone everyone would turn gay. If you are going to refer to my comment at least refer to it accurately. What I said was that homosexuality has the ability to stop the human race. One homosexual couple cannot procreate, therefore, their lineage stops and so on....
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First, gay folks are usually capable of procreating, and in the past, did it just about as often as their heterosexual counterparts.

But, really, you just complained that you were misquoted that gay is catching, and capable of ending the human race, while still proclaiming that a few gay folks can still end humanity.

How does that work, exactly?

If my being attracted to ONLY the same gender isn't catching, how will it stop all heterosexuals from breeding at will?

And, since a great many heterosexuals cannot or do not procreate, what do you have to say to them, and are you against their marriages as well? Only seems "logical" that you would carry your logic across the board.

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