Ohio Sen. Portman now supports gay marriage

Mar 15, 2013 Full story: beaumontenterprise.com 37

Republican U.S. Sen. Rob Portman said Thursday that he now supports gay marriage because one of his sons is gay.

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BS Detector

La Puente, CA

#21 Mar 15, 2013
nhjeff wrote:
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The ability to suddenly change one's thinking is neither liberal nor conservative. One would wish to believe that liberal thinkers are more open to new ideas and more willing to change without the exigency of personal self-interest. But my guess is such belief is somewhere between marginally true and outright wrong.
The most conservative thinker will often discover that abortion is an acceptable solution to a problem six weeks after departing the bar much too drunk. And the most liberal thinkers have been known to suddenly oppose renewable energy when wind turbines or transmissions lines are proposed along their own property lines.
Okay, now that's a downright insightful perspective. Well done.
Nielson

Huntington, NY

#22 Mar 15, 2013
BS Detector wrote:
<quoted text> You get a high profile advocate for your side and you STILL have to say something stupid to confirm your own disgusting bigotry re Republicans, even when they finally agree with you.
And you wonder why people don't take you seriously. And you wonder why so many just don't like gays (per this kind of behavior). Well, it's because of people like you. You must be so proud.
Republicans are just challenged when it comes to clear thinking, or any thinking, for that matter. Were you born with the ability to detect BS or did you develop this skill by continually detecting your own? You pre judge people based on nothing but your own pathetic prejudices. Who said I was gay? I certainly didn't. But you - who is disposed to looking for the SELF INTEREST in everything - a trait that is oh so typical of republicans - assumed that I am because I embrace the idea that gays should have rights like everyone else. Face it, your politics is anachronistic and the real world is quickly passing you by.

“OYE COMO VA”

Since: Sep 09

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#23 Mar 15, 2013
Rainbow Kid wrote:
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LOL!
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The republicans change their golden boys/girls faster than they change their underwear
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Michelle Obama needs to be ramping up her presidential campaign so she doesn't have to move out of the White House until 2024
I think and hope that the Dem ticket is going to be Hillary .

Having lived in NY till 4 years ago , she was a hell of a fighter as our senator ,not just for equality but for consumer rights ( no such thing in Florida) and countless other things the Dems stand for.

She will rip their b@lls off and hand it back to them and in truth that is the type of Dem we need .
Obama has faced the Tea party which no other Dem has faced but in many ways he was weak in dealing with them.

Can you imagine a debate between Hillary and any of the GOP's golden boys?

She would devour them .

“OYE COMO VA”

Since: Sep 09

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#24 Mar 15, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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More likely he just killed any chance of ever getting the nomination.
We know it already cost him the VP slot last year.
I agree and would not rule out that he now targetted by Christian conservative battering ram of the Tea party for replacement.

“OYE COMO VA”

Since: Sep 09

Location hidden

#25 Mar 15, 2013
BS Detector wrote:
<quoted text> You get a high profile advocate for your side and you STILL have to say something stupid to confirm your own disgusting bigotry re Republicans, even when they finally agree with you.
And you wonder why people don't take you seriously. And you wonder why so many just don't like gays (per this kind of behavior). Well, it's because of people like you. You must be so proud.
Nielson is a 100% correct .
TYPICAL selfish and hypocrite Republican.

I work with plenty but none take the cake like my fathers side of the family who live in Miami, all are tea party GOP and every last one of them is an expert of sucking the USA gvmt dry while screaming about everyone else.

"Nielson wrote:
Typical selfish republican. Portman was incapable of finding sympathy and support for the gay community's right to equal treatment under the law. But, when it hit home, he now embraces the gay community's right to equal treatment under the law because he does not want his son to be treated unfairly."
BS Detector

La Puente, CA

#26 Mar 16, 2013
Nielson wrote:
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Republicans are just challenged when it comes to clear thinking, or any thinking, for that matter. Were you born with the ability to detect BS or did you develop this skill by continually detecting your own? You pre judge people based on nothing but your own pathetic prejudices. Who said I was gay? I certainly didn't. But you - who is disposed to looking for the SELF INTEREST in everything - a trait that is oh so typical of republicans - assumed that I am because I embrace the idea that gays should have rights like everyone else. Face it, your politics is anachronistic and the real world is quickly passing you by.
And you are still proud of your prejudice and bigotry. Not surprising. And what exactly do you fantasize is my alleged self interest... sorry, SELF INTEREST (don't want to minimize your hysteria)? You "pre judge" all Republicans, yet in your mentally challenged excuse for a mind, that's perfectly okay, even laudible. Apparently, you are proud of your hypocrisy. One can only wonder why.

By now, even with your mental deficiencies, you must know that your only value to me is to ridicule you and expose you as a fraud.

Even you must realize how easy that is.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#27 Mar 16, 2013
Jose - in Miami wrote:
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I agree and would not rule out that he now targetted by Christian conservative battering ram of the Tea party for replacement.
Yes, I imagine the Teabaggers will run a primary challenge against him in 2016.

Since: Mar 11

Minnesota's North Coast

#28 Mar 16, 2013
Jose - in Miami wrote:
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Nielson is a 100% correct .
TYPICAL selfish and hypocrite Republican.
I work with plenty but none take the cake like my fathers side of the family who live in Miami, all are tea party GOP and every last one of them is an expert of sucking the USA gvmt dry while screaming about everyone else.
"Nielson wrote:
Typical selfish republican. Portman was incapable of finding sympathy and support for the gay community's right to equal treatment under the law. But, when it hit home, he now embraces the gay community's right to equal treatment under the law because he does not want his son to be treated unfairly."
hey, at least giove the guy props for doing the right thing here...

some people in his place might have disowned hos own flesh and stuck to his bigot guns...he at least had the balls to admit he was wrong..and as a US senator in the public eye. it takes a real man to admit when they are wrong.

“OYE COMO VA”

Since: Sep 09

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#29 Mar 16, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>hey, at least giove the guy props for doing the right thing here...
some people in his place might have disowned hos own flesh and stuck to his bigot guns...he at least had the balls to admit he was wrong..and as a US senator in the public eye. it takes a real man to admit when they are wrong.
I agree, I guess that over the course of 4 yrs working with some of them, I have gotten tired of their hypocrisy and bit jaded with "Christian" politicians.

Since: Mar 11

Minnesota's North Coast

#30 Mar 16, 2013
Jose - in Miami wrote:
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I agree, I guess that over the course of 4 yrs working with some of them, I have gotten tired of their hypocrisy and bit jaded with "Christian" politicians.
yes, the religious cult members are definitely holding our nation back...What'ya gonna do? Euthanasia laws don't apply...i looked into it.
BS Detector

La Puente, CA

#31 Mar 16, 2013
Jose - in Miami wrote:
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Nielson is a 100% correct .
TYPICAL selfish and hypocrite Republican.
I work with plenty but none take the cake like my fathers side of the family who live in Miami, all are tea party GOP and every last one of them is an expert of sucking the USA gvmt dry while screaming about everyone else.
"Nielson wrote:
Typical selfish republican. Portman was incapable of finding sympathy and support for the gay community's right to equal treatment under the law. But, when it hit home, he now embraces the gay community's right to equal treatment under the law because he does not want his son to be treated unfairly."
Are you suggesting that your father's side of the family is representative of every single Republican out there? By that reasoning, are you representative of every single gay person out there?

Are you a 'typical self-absorbed, narcissistic gay person?'

Since: Mar 09

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#32 Mar 16, 2013
Jose - in Miami wrote:
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I agree, I guess that over the course of 4 yrs working with some of them, I have gotten tired of their hypocrisy and bit jaded with "Christian" politicians.
Collect data, double check facts, line up multiple testimonies ....

write an EXPOSE`.

Since: Jan 10

Lewis Center, OH

#33 Mar 16, 2013
BS Detector wrote:
<quoted text> You get a high profile advocate for your side and you STILL have to say something stupid to confirm your own disgusting bigotry re Republicans, even when they finally agree with you.
And you wonder why people don't take you seriously. And you wonder why so many just don't like gays (per this kind of behavior). Well, it's because of people like you. You must be so proud.
Your post is just as extreme toward Gay Americans as theirs was toward republicans. Its not fair that either of you make generalizations. Seems youre both looking for reasons to hate.
BS Detector

La Puente, CA

#34 Mar 17, 2013
Marram wrote:
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Your post is just as extreme toward Gay Americans as theirs was toward republicans. Its not fair that either of you make generalizations. Seems youre both looking for reasons to hate.
What do you fantasize is my "extreme" attitude "toward Gay Americans?" What generalizations do you fantasize? Who do you (erroneously) fantasize that I hate? And why?

Noted that you acknowledge "their" extreme attitude toward Republicans. Good. That's a start.

“Some people are gay - get over”

Since: Apr 08

Reading PA

#35 Mar 17, 2013
BS Detector wrote:
<quoted text> And you are still proud of your prejudice and bigotry. Not surprising. And what exactly do you fantasize is my alleged self interest... sorry, SELF INTEREST (don't want to minimize your hysteria)? You "pre judge" all Republicans, yet in your mentally challenged excuse for a mind, that's perfectly okay, even laudible. Apparently, you are proud of your hypocrisy. One can only wonder why.
By now, even with your mental deficiencies, you must know that your only value to me is to ridicule you and expose you as a fraud.
Even you must realize how easy that is.
I try very hard not to "pre-judge" anyone. But if you align yourself with a party who only cares about people who are rich, white and straight or corporations then it's likely people will believe you share those values.

The GOP has proven itself to be the enemy of gay people, the working poor, immigrants and anyone who isn't white so if you are a Republican then it's logical for people to believe you support those positions. If you don't then make your voice heard and work to change the stance of your party.

The pronouncement from GOP leaders that the GOP is "an inclusive party" is laughable and everybody knows it.
BS Detector

La Puente, CA

#36 Mar 17, 2013
KirkW wrote:
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I try very hard not to "pre-judge" anyone. But if you align yourself with a party who only cares about people who are rich, white and straight or corporations then it's likely people will believe you share those values.
The GOP has proven itself to be the enemy of gay people, the working poor, immigrants and anyone who isn't white so if you are a Republican then it's logical for people to believe you support those positions. If you don't then make your voice heard and work to change the stance of your party.
The pronouncement from GOP leaders that the GOP is "an inclusive party" is laughable and everybody knows it.
The "everybody knows" argument is BS. Much like saying that "everybody knows" that gays are all child molesting perverts. Pure crap.

And you have no idea about what or how I make my voice heard, so that bit of prejudice on your part is also dismissed for cause. And your prejudice and bigotry re the Republican party, i.e., "The GOP has proven itself to be the enemy of gay people, the working poor, immigrants and anyone who isn't white..." is just another example of your bigotry.

Would you accept the idea that the Democratic Party has "proven itself" to be the enemy of the poor and minorities but perpetuating ideas and programs that do little more than keep said poor and minorities suppressed, and shackled to and dependent on, government handouts? Would you accept the idea that the Democratic Party has "proven itself" the enemy of people who have become successful by unfair and unbalanced tax policies and rates? Would you accept the notion that Nancy Pelosi has proven herself a complete hypocrite by slashing the federal budget and putting people out of work with her inadequate leadership in controlling spending, yet declaring similar cuts in the pay of Members of Congress "undignified?"

Point being that you can make any bullsh!t claims that give you a tingle. Doesn't mean such claims are valid.
BS Detector

La Puente, CA

#37 Mar 17, 2013
KirkW wrote:
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I try very hard not to "pre-judge" anyone.
I don't believe you. Your own words show your claim to be untrue.

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