Md. seeks 1st win for gay-marriage

Oct 14, 2012 Full story: WTOP-FM Washington 10

Irene Huskens has the wedding venue picked out: a charming bed- and-breakfast in southern Maryland.

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“Judge more and you love less”

Since: Apr 07

Newark OH-Baltimore MD-S.Fla

#1 Oct 14, 2012
Now for MY campaign AD:

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Full civil rights for lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender individuals must be enacted now. Delay and excuses are no longer acceptable.

We will not leave any part of our community behind.

Separate is never equal.

Religious beliefs are not a basis upon which to affirm or deny civil rights.

The establishment and guardianship of full civil rights is a non-partisan issue.

Individual involvement and grassroots action are paramount to success and must be encouraged.

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DIGNITY AND EQUALITY. Every lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender person has inherent dignity and worth, and has the right to live free of discrimination and harassment.

FAMILY. Every LGBT person has the right to a family without legal barriers to immigration, civil marriage or raising children.

ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY. Every LGBT person has the right to economic opportunity free from discrimination in employment, public housing, accommodation, public utilities, credit, and federally funded programs and activities.

EDUCATION. Every LGBT child and youth has the right to an education that is affirming, inclusive and free from bullying.

NATIONAL SECURITY. Every LGBT person should have the opportunity to serve our country openly and equally in our military and foreign service.

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6. Every government measure that quantifies the US citizenry must permit LGBT individuals to self-identify and be counted in every way citizens are counted.
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If we change gay/lesbian to blacks or Hispanics or any other minority, what is written above would probably be embraced by each of those minorities.

I hope people remember that when they vote against SSM they aren't just voting against gays and lesbians. They are voting to put our parents and other relatives into second class citizens as well.

When you discriminate against me for being gay or HIV+ you are also harming the rest of my family.
Boo Effin Hoo

Minneapolis, MN

#2 Oct 14, 2012
People who claim to be homosexually-attracted and choose to engage in homosexual behavior already have equal rights under the law.
It's high time to roll back the preferential treatment extended to homosexuals/queers who insist on dragging their bedrooms into government policy and imposing their immorality on society using the force and coercion of government.

Since: May 12

Bellevue, WA

#3 Oct 14, 2012
Boo Effin Hoo wrote:
People who claim to be homosexually-attracted and choose to engage in homosexual behavior already have equal rights under the law.
It's high time to roll back the preferential treatment extended to homosexuals/queers who insist on dragging their bedrooms into government policy and imposing their immorality on society using the force and coercion of government.
oh are you talin bout christians.... ya thought so

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#4 Oct 14, 2012
Boo Effin Hoo wrote:
People who claim to be homosexually-attracted and choose to engage in homosexual behavior already have equal rights under the law.
It's high time to roll back the preferential treatment extended to homosexuals/queers who insist on dragging their bedrooms into government policy and imposing their immorality on society using the force and coercion of government.
B.S.

If I had "equal rights under the law", then my marriage from Massachusetts would be recongized in Michigan (and every other state, plus the federal govt) like all hetero marriages from Massachusetts are.

But that's okay, soon enough the courts will force the feds & the rest of the states to actually treat us equally.
Marlena

Minneapolis, MN

#5 Oct 14, 2012
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>
B.S.
If I had "equal rights under the law", then my marriage from Massachusetts would be recongized in Michigan (and every other state, plus the federal govt) like all hetero marriages from Massachusetts are.
But that's okay, soon enough the courts will force the feds & the rest of the states to actually treat us equally.
Why aren't my constitutional rights of conceal carry in my state recognized by yours?
I should be able to buy and carry guns in my state and ship them to yours.
Guns are actually addressed in the constitution, not queers.
If Texans want to carry guns under Texas law in Boston, that would be OK with you, right?

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#6 Oct 14, 2012
Marlena wrote:
<quoted text>Why aren't my constitutional rights of conceal carry in my state recognized by yours?
I should be able to buy and carry guns in my state and ship them to yours.
Guns are actually addressed in the constitution, not queers.
If Texans want to carry guns under Texas law in Boston, that would be OK with you, right?
Absolutely, I fully support and exercise my 2nd amendment rights.

If only the "conservatives" would support equality as well.
hi hi

Philadelphia, PA

#8 Oct 15, 2012
Marlena wrote:
<quoted text>Why aren't my constitutional rights of conceal carry in my state recognized by yours?
I should be able to buy and carry guns in my state and ship them to yours.
Guns are actually addressed in the constitution, not queers.
If Texans want to carry guns under Texas law in Boston, that would be OK with you, right?
Your comparison fails because literally every citizen alive *IS* actually treated identically in respect of gun laws. Gays are not, vis-a-vis gay rights.

State gun laws *DO* treat everyone equally. State marriage laws, as any dumbfuck can plainly see, are *glaringly unequal* at this point, since you know (as well as any other person alive) that some states have gay marriage and some don't, period.

Right now, a gay couple in Massachusetts can *drive two states over* and they are suddenly, magically "not married."

This MUST be and WILL be addressed by courts, as has been pointed out here and elsewhere. If it is addressed to the detriment of gay rights, I have zero doubt that the pro-gay will fight for as many years or decades as necessary; I do believe you are postponing the inevitable.

What annoys me about the pro-gay is merely that this could have happened faster; my own two cents. Some of them don't agree; *shrug* they have their belief, and I have mine. I think at this point it could take a *VERY LONG TIME*, in fact, for equality to happen nationally. I think it's also LAUGHABLE that your ilk think you'll "defeat" this; it shows a profoundly disturbing mind set.
hi hi

Philadelphia, PA

#9 Oct 15, 2012
What I cannot stand about these state votes to the point that I barely follow this news anymore is that the pro-gay fell right into the trap of seeing them as "legitimate." They are, in other words, seeing the ANTIGAY view as legitimate. It makes my skin crawl; it goes against every fiber of my being and with any apology to whoever even gives a *SHIT* about it, I am basically visiting these boards every now and again and not even reading most of the responses to my responses. It's just too disturbing to me; to me, in vicious battles of this sort, you *n-e-v-e-r*,*n-e-v-e-r* lend credibility to the opposition's point of view, but you find *real, true, honest, factual* ways of refusing to lend credibility to that point of view.

I could go on about this *ad infinitum* and I've gone on long enough, but these state votes should never have happened. They still shouldn't be. And now they are *FULLY*(so it appears) accepted by the pro-gay, and it is my right to be 100.0% supportive of gay rights while *REFUSING* to go along with that "state vote" mindset.

So.

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#10 Oct 15, 2012
Marlena wrote:
<quoted text>Why aren't my constitutional rights of conceal carry in my state recognized by yours?
I should be able to buy and carry guns in my state and ship them to yours.
Guns are actually addressed in the constitution, not queers.
If Texans want to carry guns under Texas law in Boston, that would be OK with you, right?
The right to bear arms is addressed in the constitution. Which is why your statement makes no fucking sense.

Equality under the law is also addressed. Under the law, married couples are given 1079 federal rights. Gay people, denied legally and federally recognized marriage as straight people get, are denied those rights. Inequality. Unconstitutional.

DNF

“Judge more and you love less”

Since: Apr 07

Newark OH-Baltimore MD-S.Fla

#11 Oct 15, 2012
hi hi wrote:
What I cannot stand about these state votes to the point that I barely follow this news anymore is that the pro-gay fell right into the trap of seeing them as "legitimate." They are, in other words, seeing the ANTIGAY view as legitimate. It makes my skin crawl; it goes against every fiber of my being and with any apology to whoever even gives a *SHIT* about it, I am basically visiting these boards every now and again and not even reading most of the responses to my responses. It's just too disturbing to me; to me, in vicious battles of this sort, you *n-e-v-e-r*,*n-e-v-e-r* lend credibility to the opposition's point of view, but you find *real, true, honest, factual* ways of refusing to lend credibility to that point of view.
I could go on about this *ad infinitum* and I've gone on long enough, but these state votes should never have happened. They still shouldn't be. And now they are *FULLY*(so it appears) accepted by the pro-gay, and it is my right to be 100.0% supportive of gay rights while *REFUSING* to go along with that "state vote" mindset.
So.
spread the word:

Let them try to stop schools from teaching this during Black History Month!

South Africa officially recognizes gay pride flag

South Africa has recognized itís own version of the rainbow gay pride flag as an officially registered national symbol

http://www.topix.com/news/gay/2012/10/south-a...

The bigots can no longer say there is no connection between the black struggle for rights and ours. Unless they want to claim blacks didn't suffer under apartheid.

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