Poll: Majority Supports Path to Citizenship for Illegal Immigrants

Nov 14, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: KVOR-AM Colorado Springs

Most Americans support a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants, an issue that may be high on the agenda of newly re-elected President Obama and the 113th Congress, given the increased importance of nonwhites -- including Hispanic voters -- in the nation's political equation.

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I read an article that said a majority of Americans approve of amnesty for the 12-20 million illegal aliens.
My question is why would Americans want to increase the voting block of Hispanic voters by 12-20 Million?
And why would anyone want to grant amnesty to 12-20 Million illegal aliens that ignored our immigration laws?
It cheapens our American Citizenship and is a slap in the face to the immigrants in other countries waiting to enter here the legal way!
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Immigrant group balks at Obama reform wording
By Liz Goodwin, Yahoo! News |
An advocacy group for young immigrants expressed concern Wednesday after President Barack Obama, at his first press conference in months, said he would support "a pathway for legal status" for those living in the country illegally.
That Obama used the phrase "legal status" instead of "citizenship" raised alarm bells for some deep in the weeds of immigration advocacy, since some more conservative immigration reformers think the estimated 11 million people living in the country illegally should be given legal status but not the opportunity to become citizens.
"He looked like he sidestepped around saying 'citizenship,'" said Marisol Valero, spokeswoman for United We Dream, a group that represents young people who were brought to the country illegally as children and want the opportunity to become citizens. "We are worried that the president and other leaders will not be supporting a path to citizenship for everyone."
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Americans did not vote to give illegals amnesty the low-life bastards at the Washington post conducted a bogus survey in which they determine that 70% of only 1,023 people (probably anchor babies or illegals themselves) support amnesty and then send the results to fox Latino as something all American were a part of.
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Who cares. Most of what goes on in these threads is BS.
Everybody cares and so do you. Judging by the names you call the people you post to, you care desparately. Liar, bigot and stupid are a few of your favorites. But it doesn't really matter what you call anyone, especially me. People always factor in the source and in your case those words don't have alot of meaning.

“A Nation of Legal Immigrants”

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If they had taken care of it 10 years Go when they had the chance ,

we wouldn't be talking about it now and most importantly it wouldn't

have anything to do with the election
"This amnesty will give citizenship to only 1.1 to 1.3 million illegal aliens. We will secure the borders henceforth. We will never again bring forward another amnesty bill like this."

-- Massachusetts Senator Ted Kennedy on the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986

And we all know DEMOCRAT Senator (I can't swim) Kennedy wouldn't lie!

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"The agreement we just reached is the best possible chance we will have in
years to secure our borders, bring millions of people out of the shadows and
into the sunshine of America"
May 17, 2007

Ted Kennedy -- Senator from Massachusetts
Member of the Democratic Party

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Ted Kennedy Chappequiddick Lie

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spud wrote:
<quoted text>Everybody cares and so do you. Judging by the names you call the people you post to, you care desparately. Liar, bigot and stupid are a few of your favorites. But it doesn't really matter what you call anyone, especially me. People always factor in the source and in your case those words don't have alot of meaning.
I'm with you 100%

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<quoted text>Americans did not vote to give illegals amnesty the low-life bastards at the Washington post conducted a bogus survey in which they determine that 70% of only 1,023 people (probably anchor babies or illegals themselves) support amnesty and then send the results to fox Latino as something all American were a part of.
So in other words you cannot prove that those 1023 people were "anchor babies" or "illegals" can you. So all this chit was for nothing.

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Not illegal aliens who are uneducated, unskilled, poor, sick and carrying diseases.

How do Americans benefit by allowing these people here?
Education Gap


THE REALITIES OF EDUCATION IN LATIN AMERICA

Without a high-level education, Latin American children will continue to
lack the skills necessary for entering the workforce and participating in
the increasingly competitive global economy.

a.. 50 million people in Latin America cannot read or write.

b.. Latin Americans receive an average of six years of schooling, compared
to nine-and-a-half years in the OECD (Organization of Economic Cooperation
and Development) countries.

c.. Nearly one-third of children in primary school in Latin America repeat
a grade. The additional cost to the region's education systems has been
estimated at $4 billion per year.

d.. Brazil, Chile, Mexico and Peru rank behind Uganda, Zambia, Botswana
and Burundi in the quality of their math and science education.

e.. In Mexico, only 13% of adults receive a high school diploma versus 87%
of American adults.

f.. Over 50% of Mexican and Brazilian 15-year old youth are functionally
illiterate and thus unable to compete in today's economy.

CONTRIBUTORS TO LATIN AMERICA'S EDUCATION CRISIS

1. HIGH DROP-OUT RATE THROUGHOUT LATIN AMERICA

The heart of the problem is the drop-out rate -- children living in poverty
are not staying in school.

a.. 92% of Latin American children begin primary school, but only 32%
continue on to secondary school (the U.S. equivalant of middle/high school).
Even fewer ultimately graduate.

b.. Approximately 40 million children and adolescents in Latin America
drop out of school to live or work on the streets each year.

c.. It is estimated that 95% of children have access to school in Brazil,
but only 59% of them finish the eighth grade.

d.. It is well established that school dropouts have worse outcomes,
including in terms of mental health status, than do those youth who stay in
school.

2. INEQUALITY IN LATIN AMERICA

Unequal societies are less efficient at converting growth into poverty
reduction. In Latin America, the education gap mirrors the income gap
between rich and poor.

a.. Levels of inequality in Latin America are the highest in the world --
at least one in three households and two in five people live below the
poverty line.
a.. 220 million Latin Americans (about 44% of the region's population)
live on less than $2 per day. Over half of them are children.
a.. In Brazil, children in the bottom income quartile complete an average
of four years of school versus over ten years completed by children in the
top income quartile.

3. LATIN AMERICA'S EDUCATION SPENDING

Despite increases in past years, spending on elementary education is still
relatively low throughout the region.

a.. Per capita spending on primary education in Latin America still
averages only 15% of U.S. levels.
a.. Latin American universities, which serve less than 10% of the
population, receive a disproportionate share of education dollars compared
to primary education.(In Brazil, public universities have only 2% of all
pupils, but receive 25% of all federal education funds.

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So in other words you cannot prove that those 1023 people were "anchor babies" or "illegals" can you. So all this chit was for nothing.
no I can't but to make the opinion of only 1,023 people seem like its the opinion of all Americans is what makes me belive that.

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<quoted text>no I can't but to make the opinion of only 1,023 people seem like its the opinion of all Americans is what makes me belive that.
"no I can't" Is all that was required, thank you very much. ;)
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"no I can't" Is all that was required, thank you very much. ;)
oh wow I guess you win ha . Ignoring the rest won't make you any less delusional. To bad Obama won't grant amnesty you anchor baby. Hahahahaha

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<quoted text>oh wow I guess you win ha . Ignoring the rest won't make you any less delusional. To bad Obama won't grant amnesty you anchor baby. Hahahahaha
Is that your answer for anyone who doesn't agree with you?

I'm no anchor baby, but keep using that like crutch like you have been. lolol.
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These ones are funding social security and paying taxes which they never get back to the tune of $7billion per year. Keep whining troll. I bitch slapped you.
Every time pro-illegals are confronted with facts the insults and threats fly.

“Reduce immigration levels”

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This poll is a lie. They only gave 2 choices. Gallop shows majority supports tough laws not amnesty

“Reduce immigration levels”

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The Associated Press is a prime example of the extreme bias in most media polling. Its exit poll -- followed by nearly all reporters -- asked just one immigration question and worded it in the way that open-borders advocates always word the question in their polls.

The AP simply forced voters to choose between a path to citizenship and mass deportation. Not one Member of Congress advo cates mass deportation. The wording is crafted to get the highest preference for amnesty as possible.

We know from our own polling that when offered three choices that include strong enforcement such as removing the job magnet, most voters choose against the path to citizenship option.

The USA Today/Gallup poll is different from many others because it tried to find out how enthusiastic voters are about tackling 12 issues in Pres. Obama's second term.

This goes a bit beyond a weakness of most polling which mainly just finds what people's knee-jerk opinion is when a question is asked. This poll tries to find where Americans are really enthusiastic.

With all the noise in the news media clamoring for an amnesty, many Members of Congress are assuming that the weight of enthusiasm is on the pro-amnesty side.

But the poll shows that energy and enthusiasm are much greater on our pro-enforcement side of the issue.

Gallup just found that 62% of voters think it is "extremely important" or "very important" that Washington "stop illegal immigration into the U.S." during Pres. Obama's second term. Only 37% think it is very important to "provide a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants living in the U.S.".

The only way that an amnesty would pass in the next Congress is if Republicans who previously opposed rewarding illegal aliens with jobs, benefits and the vote decided to change their position because they think it will help them get more votes in the next election.

The Gallup poll not only found such an action would be overwhel mingly unpopular with Republicans but that abandoning enforcement could really hurt them with Independents.

The poll results were that 59% of Independents are super enthusiastic about stopping illegal immigration, while 36% are super enthusiastic about an amnesty.

Here's more about what Gallup said about Americans' opinions about what the President and Congress ought to be tackling the first of the year:

"Americans are very clear on what Pres. Barack Obama's top priority should be in his second term. Restoring a strong economy and job market ranks No. 1 out of a list of 12 issues, with more than 9 in 10 Americans saying it is extremely or very important that Obama take major steps to make this happen."

America has 20 million more workers looking for full-time jobs than it needs because the job market is so bad. The poll suggests that the last thing voters would want is for the President to increase the number of people looking for work by adding more immigration.

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Is that your answer for anyone who doesn't agree with you?
I'm no anchor baby, but keep using that like crutch like you have been. lolol.
no "crutch" is what your parents saw when they first looked at you. Americans don't defend illegals like you do that's how I know your an anchor.

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The Topix is "Illegal Immigrants"
"Immigration refers to the movement of people between countries. While the
movement of people has existed throughout human history at various levels,
modern immigration implies long-term, legal, permanent residence. Short-term
visitors and tourists are considered non-immigrants (see expatriate).
Immigration across national borders in a way that violates the immigration
laws of the destination country is termed illegal immigration."
"Illegal immigration refers to immigration across national borders in a way
that violates the immigration laws of the destination country. Under this
definition, an illegal immigrant is a foreigner who either has illegally
crossed an international political border, be it by land, water, or air, or
a foreigner who has entered a country legally but then overstays his/her
visa. "
See the difference?
Don't give a shit.

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Don't give a shit.
NEXT
You're telling me you're just gonna turn tail and run? I guess I don't blame you. You don't have near the guns to keep up with Cricket.

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<quoted text>no "crutch" is what your parents saw when they first looked at you. Americans don't defend illegals like you do that's how I know your an anchor.
It is a FACT, that you know nothing about my immigration status. Frankly I like to see these arrogant condescending attitudes like yours because and old saying comes to mind.

Pride goes before the fall. That should be the Republican motto at this point.

My family has been here for six generations. Maybe if you weren't so tightly wound up in your indoctrinated conservative media cocoon of ignorance, you might be able to fathom, that every American in this country is actually an individual with many different views on many different issues. This can be argued to be what being "American" is about. I get to think, say, and believe what I want to believe and it makes me no less American than you. I'm going to check the other comments on my register while you go and contemplate the correlation between your judgmental, unrelenting, unamerican attitude and the most recent self revealing failure of the Republican party and the majority of supporters much like yourself that contributed to that embarrassing failure that you all experienced election night 2012. Do some soul searching. It will do you some good. ;)

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whoever said the polls show this better go read the gallup poll on this issue.they didn't take this poll from mexico or lost angeles

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<quoted text>You're telling me you're just gonna turn tail and run? I guess I don't blame you. You don't have near the guns to keep up with Cricket.
Ooooh. I'm so afraid of the coward hiding behind his computer screen. I'm not divulging my personal fire power on the internet.
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In fact it was Guetto back in the past when your grand grandparents came to US and that's why you are here.Unless you are a Native American which you are not because of the sofistication of the article you wrote against your grandparents people who lives on the 21 century.Best wishes for you and all your family.

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