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“MARY HARTMAN, MARY HARTMAN”

Since: Nov 12

Avon, Co

#78794 Feb 16, 2013
BLANCHE, where dafuck r ya? WE LOST UR NEW BIRD. Flew right out when I cleaned cage. btw, din din ready. I'm calling it, the tweety special.

NE and I are pretending 2 b rabbits 2nite... HE IS SO HOT AND SMELLS SO GOOD. We just love the number 69. He's @ my new place w/me.

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“MARY HARTMAN, MARY HARTMAN”

Since: Nov 12

Avon, Co

#78795 Feb 16, 2013
I just love my new place here in Duluth. Will be n Tampa on Bay next month in a mansion but not mine, just 4 visit n business. I might even go 2 CHOO CHOO FIRST BUT HAVE 2 BE IN NYC FOR PHOTO SESSION IN APRIL.

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Straight Sh00ter

Topeka, KS

#78796 Feb 16, 2013
Queen Elizabeth 1st wrote:
I just love my new place here in Duluth. Will be n Tampa on Bay next month in a mansion but not mine, just 4 visit n business. I might even go 2 CHOO CHOO FIRST BUT HAVE 2 BE IN NYC FOR PHOTO SESSION IN APRIL.
Enjoy the snow in Dull-uth.

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“MARY HARTMAN, MARY HARTMAN”

Since: Nov 12

Avon, Co

#78797 Feb 16, 2013
GOING 2 WATCH BACHELOR B4 WORK ON MY NOVEL A LITTLE AND THEN NE AND I GOING TO BED 4 FUN. BACHELOR is blond stud this time on dish. WHO NEEDS 800 CHANNELS? I WATCH 4 WHEN HAVE TIME OF SAVED ONES.

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Cornelius

Rogers, TX

#78798 Feb 16, 2013
Queen Elizabeth 1st wrote:
BLANCHE, where dafuck r ya? WE LOST UR NEW BIRD. Flew right out when I cleaned cage. btw, din din ready. I'm calling it, the tweety special.
NE and I are pretending 2 b rabbits 2nite... HE IS SO HOT AND SMELLS SO GOOD. We just love the number 69. He's @ my new place w/me.
Have you seen my buddy from Norfolk?

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Straight Sh00ter

Topeka, KS

#78799 Feb 16, 2013
Queen Elizabeth 1st wrote:
GOING 2 WATCH BACHELOR B4 WORK ON MY NOVEL A LITTLE AND THEN NE AND I GOING TO BED 4 FUN. BACHELOR is blond stud this time on dish. WHO NEEDS 800 CHANNELS? I WATCH 4 WHEN HAVE TIME OF SAVED ONES.
You need a life.

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Straight Sh00ter

Topeka, KS

#78800 Feb 16, 2013
Cornelius wrote:
<quoted text>Have you seen my buddy from Norfolk?
His fruitiness the King of Nebraska is around, which is easy to tell by the fact that any lucid comment suddenly has 957 negative ratings.

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Straight Sh00ter

Topeka, KS

#78801 Feb 16, 2013
What the cafe needs is more good, hard working, God fearing, upstanding, American folks; and fewer of the bvtt pirates we have now.

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Gays Control Meteorites

Alpharetta, GA

#78802 Feb 16, 2013
Straight Sh00ter wrote:
What the cafe needs is more good, hard working, God fearing, upstanding, American folks; and fewer of the bvtt pirates we have now.
If you run all the Gay People out of the Gay Cafe; who is gonna pay the bills?

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Frankie RIzzo

Union City, CA

#78803 Feb 17, 2013
Queen Elizabeth 1st wrote:
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Why do u care? He's far too good-looking, too young, educated, wealthy and classy 2 even notice u.
Too funny!

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“Reality bites”

Since: Dec 11

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#78804 Feb 17, 2013
Frankie RIzzo wrote:
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Jizzybird58 hates Jesus!
In your head rent free. How many more times are you gonna talk about me?

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Lewis

Sunset, TX

#78807 Feb 17, 2013
I wonder if the Jadester is gonna post today?

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“Equality marches on! ”

Since: Apr 08

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#78808 Feb 17, 2013
Jazybird58 wrote:
<quoted text>In your head rent free. How many more times are you gonna talk about me?
Between you, me and Bill, it's all the trolls can ramble on about. R1 just keeps switching to his alters to make himself less lonely!

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Dandy Deacon

Chester, PA

#78809 Feb 17, 2013
DELIVERANCE: THE TRUE STORY OF A GAY EXORCISM SOME PENTECOSTAL CHRISTIANS BELIEVE THE DELIVERANCE RITE CAN EXORCISE THE DEMONS THAT CAUSE HOMOSEXUALITY. THE TRULY SHOCKING PART IS THAT GOD-FEARING GAYS KEEP SIGNING UP FOR THE TRAUMATIC RITUAL.
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The prophet had come up from Georgia. She stood at the front of the Holy Ghost Temple Church and called for parishioners to come forward. On this Sunday in February, roughly 100 worshippers filled the white-walled Pentecostal sanctuary that sits on a wooded hill beside a BMW dealership. Among them was 20-year-old Kevin Robinson. He stepped out from his pew, walked up the lavender carpet, and joined the line in front of the prophet. He wanted to be prayed over, as is common in the Pentecostal tradition, by this powerful preacher. In the eyes of believers such as Kevin, a prophet speaks the very word of God and can divine the future.

"I have a lot on my mind right now—my mind isn't focused," Kevin explained to the woman, whose name was Mary. She was in her late thirties, slim, and wore a black dress. "Could you please pray for that?"

"Are you gay?" the prophet asked him.

In a quiet, gentle voice, Kevin acknowledged that he was.

"Speak up," the woman commanded. "I can't hear you."

Yes, Kevin repeated, he was gay.

"You need to be delivered from homosexuality," the prophet said into a microphone so that all the church could hear. Kevin was embarrassed, but he stayed put. This was no normal preacher—she spoke God's truth. According to church dogma, homosexuality is a sin foisted on humans by demons who take possession of their bodies and compel them to act against God's will. These evil spirits can be exorcised by those trained in spiritual warfare in a ritual known among Pentecostal Christians as deliverance. Perhaps, Kevin thought, this prophet could finally deliver him from his demons.

The prophet placed her hands on Kevin and began to pray over him. "Come out, come out!" she shouted. "In the name of Jesus, I command you to come out! You gonna free him right now!"

Kevin closed his eyes, thinking to himself, "There's something wrong with me; I need to change." A part of him believed this prophet could do what no one else had been able to do during previous deliverance attempts—make him heterosexual. But the prophet was loud and she looked at him with disgust and contempt as her chants became more and more belligerent. Even now Kevin can't bring himself to repeat the most hurtful things she said. He soon began to cry. And then, with the prophet still exhorting the demons in him to depart, he blacked out and collapsed. When he regained consciousness, he stood up and returned to his seat. His shame was turning to rage. He searched his mind and thoughts and found he was unchanged—he was still attracted to men. In the past it had been family members—his mother, his aunt, or his uncle, the church's pastor—who performed deliverance on him. This time it was a stranger, and she had pushed him beyond the breaking point. Never again, he decided, would he allow himself to be treated this way.

It was, by Kevin's count, at least the 10th time since he was 16 that he'd subjected himself to gay exorcism.

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Dandy Deacon

Chester, PA

#78810 Feb 17, 2013
It's impossible to know how many young gay people have undergone exorcism in the thousands of Pentecostal and Evangelical churches across the country—not all of which, to be sure, condone the practice. However, youth workers say they regularly deal with the aftermath of these rituals. And not just in the parts of the country where Evangelical Christianity is traditionally strong. Kevin Robinson's church is located in West Springfield, Massachusetts, just across the border from Connecticut, where he lives—gay marriage is legal in both states.

Last June a video of a preacher performing an exorcism on a gay teenager in Bridgeport, Connecticut, appeared on YouTube. In it, the pastor and at least three church members press the boy's stomach—sometimes with their hands, sometimes with a foot, sometimes in a bear hug from behind—until the boy begins to vomit. True Colors, a nonprofit support organization for young gay people based in Hartford, reported the episode to the state's department of children and families. The boy in the video later declared that he was unharmed and now no longer gay, and the controversy passed. But it was no isolated incident. "At least once or twice a month I get a call from someone who's been exorcised," says Kamora Herrington, the mentoring-program director for True Colors. "And no one wants to believe this is happening in beautiful, genteel Connecticut."

Peterson Toscano, a gay Christian activist, underwent three exorcisms before coming to terms with his sexuality. One took place in the Greenpoint section of Brooklyn, another in an apartment on the West Side of Manhattan owned by Joanne Highley, who runs L.I.F.E. Ministry. During the latter exorcism, Highley had him lie down on her bed, then she sat beside him and began to press on his body, commanding the demons to exit through his mouth and rectum. Before the rite was complete, Toscano, who says he felt increasingly violated by Highley's actions, stopped the ritual and left her apartment. Highley did not respond to requests to be interviewed, but she has previously stated that her process is to "cleanse and bind demonic powers ... out of genitals, of course out of anal canals, out of intestines, out of throats and mouths if there's been ungodly deposit of semen in those areas—we cleanse with the blood of Jesus, and we cast out the demonic powers." Some practitioners of deliverance believe that a demon has a physical as well as a spiritual form and can be purged through the orifices—thus an exorcism can be judged successful if the subject vomits, coughs up sputum, or, in rare cases, evacuates his bowels.

Many of those who undergo gay deliverance are minors, and critics like Herrington and Toscano question whether child abuse is taking place. "For a young person, being told that you house evil, that you're basically a mobile home for evil spirits—that is a very, very damaging concept," says Toscano. "It's one of the most extreme manifestations of the anti-gay rhetoric within the church."

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Dandy Deacon

Chester, PA

#78811 Feb 17, 2013
Even some Christians who are intolerant of homosexual behavior worry about the practice. "It is dangerous," says the Reverend DL Foster, a preacher in Atlanta who defines himself as ex-gay, though he still acknowledges homosexual desires, and preaches against tolerance of the gay lifestyle. "It can fuel lots of self-destructive behavior ... If you have been told that a demon is possessing you and you feel powerless to do anything about it, eventually you're going to accept it."

Prosecutors and child-welfare agencies are reluctant to interfere in any religious ritual, given the protection afforded by the First Amendment. In October 2005, for example, a teenager named D.J. Butler was taken in handcuffs by his father to a controversial Christian camp in Tennessee run by a group called Love in Action that aims to turn young homosexuals straight. The state investigated the incident but decided it could not legally prevent Love in Action from operating the camp.

Jack Drescher, an associate professor of clinical psychiatry at New York Medical College and an expert in sexual orientation, points out that there may be precedent for authorities to intercede. "Some courts have determined that Christian Scientists who withhold mainstream medical treatments from their children for religious reasons may be found criminally negligent if the child dies," Drescher says. "So all religious activities are not protected if they cause harm to children."

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Dandy Deacon

Chester, PA

#78812 Feb 17, 2013
~ten minute break~

-help yourselves to FREE refreshments and FREE parking in the rear

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Dandy Deacon

Chester, PA

#78813 Feb 17, 2013
Hey lookie thar folks the J8DSTER in the audience today everybody now yell HALLELUJAH

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Dandy Deacon

Chester, PA

#78815 Feb 17, 2013
But there appear to have been no cases challenging gay exorcism in the United States to date, nor, apparently, has there been any research into the psychological impact of the practice, without which prosecution remains unlikely. "Before it could be construed as child abuse, some kind of empirical or scientific case would have to be made that exorcisms cause harm," Drescher says.

According to Christians who practice deliverance—and that includes Kevin Robinson's uncle Leroy Stovall, who founded Holy Ghost Temple Church, and Kevin's mother, Vivian Robinson—the critics misunderstand what the rite is all about. To deliver someone of demons is an act of love and care—a noble struggle to save the subject from the clutches of the Devil. "I deal with spiritual warfare a lot," says Vivian, a registered nurse who is a high-ranking elder in the church. "We believe things can be cast out through the blood of Jesus and the faith and calling on God's power ... I have cast the spirit out of Kevin. Oh, my God, it's a lot of work."

The last time she tried to exorcise Kevin was two years ago, in the bathroom of her house. She spread oil on Kevin's head and began to pray, with her hands pressing on his head and abdomen.

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Dandy Deacon

Chester, PA

#78817 Feb 17, 2013
I, too, went through several years of deliverance ministry for being gay. It started out sane (but spiritually abusive, no less). The minister dealt with my self-esteem issue. Convinced me that I had tremendous shame about my body. His way of ministering to me? We took pictures of my naked body so we could face my shame together. Eventually he wanted to cast the sexual demons of homosexuality out of me by taking pictures of me masturbating. He told me that I would photograph the entire process, and when I ejaculated, the sexual demons would leave. I am so glad he went to such extreme, exposing himself to be a phoney.
My brother is an Evangelical minister and is 17 years older than I am. He performed something like what has been described in this story on me (for being gay.) I asked for this because I was married and was in such fear of losing my family, my children. I survived it but reading these accounts stirs something inside me ... I call it "the old tapes." I have moved on to a happier life and through considerable hardship maintained a good relationship with my children but many family members who should be close are quite distant. Sometimes it seems like a bad dream but what really set me free was the truth. I am gay and accept it. I have faith that I won't burn in hell for it but, like the young man in the story, I cannot say that I am 100% certain.
I know and love Kevin personally and am so impressed with the way this article truely represented what he has experienced at his church. I hope being able to speak his experience and feelings in truth is healing. The casting out of demons is all he knows and the fear-based christianity is all he has been raised on. I believe in my heart that the intent of the pastor, his mother, etc. to have him delivered based on his being demon posessed is based on their own fear of him not going to heaven and came from a loving place. However as I witnessed Kevin's experience as I myself was a short-lived member of this church(known for it's deliverance) saw the damage this was having on him. I never understood why if God loves each one of us the same, just the way we are (not necessarily are behaviors)and that you believe as The Bible has stated there is no hierarchy of sins and that God is a loving God, why the Elders and Pastor of this church couldn't see that through practiceing the love of God and acceptance of a man who loves god so much would be a much better approach. I left this church as I realized more attention was often given to the plans of Satan rather than God's love for his children. No one is free from sin. I too have had to recover from my own experience at this church and can't begin to imagine how this perspective has hurt Kevin over his lifetime, a man who loves God with all his heart. I commend him for his bravery and pray for his inner peace. I was glad to read that his mother stated that she was no longer going to try to perform "deliverance rituals to cast out his homosexual demons." God has a plan for each and everyone of us and love, prayer and praising God goes a lot further when it comes to a persons healing and deliverance.
Saw your article---good job! "The truth sets you free". I am a retired journalist and writer with many years of experience, in California. I was th eun-willing participant in one of these affairs. People are killed, if you review the records, often children. The same 'holy' beliefs in Africa today have produced horrors that are hard to describe or imagine, or protect against. They cannot heal the sick, even the common cold, by the same 'deity', and the same scripture verses. It creates far worse emotional and psychological stress than it ever heals or helps, and the very same doctrine 'forgives all things'---thus not even necessary.

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