What's Wrong with Gay Boy Scout Leaders?

What's Wrong with Gay Boy Scout Leaders?

There are 396 comments on the www.psychologytoday.com story from Apr 22, 2013, titled What's Wrong with Gay Boy Scout Leaders?. In it, www.psychologytoday.com reports that:

According to the New York Times , the Boy Scouts of America on Friday proposed ending its ban on openly gay scouts but continue to bar gay adults from serving as leaders.

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DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#49 Apr 25, 2013
Curteese wrote:
<quoted text>I got news for you, Cletus, they do allow women boy scout leaders.
And Cletus, cub scouts are about 9 or 10, far too young to even realize if they are gay or not.
I agree with you on the first point, not the second.

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#50 Apr 25, 2013
dad of 3 wrote:
I don't think there is ANYTHING wrong with having gay scout leaders, I mean with their policy now it's like they believe there is no such thing as a Christian men. True homosexuality is not condoned in the Bible, but neither does it mean they should be ostracized and hated on. Christianity is not a religion of hate, although a lot of people of turned it into that on this issue. I am not gay, but I would have no problem with my son joining scouting knowing that the scout leader was. For one thing I think statistically gay men have a lower instance of molesting little boys then hetero men do. And also, even if they did something my son knows not to let anyone touch them in a way he doesn't want – the same lesson our daughters know. And when I was in scouts there was more than one good old-fashioned circle jerk and the counselors/troup leaders want even involved! So I would have no problem with it.
Thank you. I usually save this for trolls but you may appreciate why I do it.

The God I came to know forgave sin and now wants us to learn for ourselves what is good and just and righteous.

Will The Real God Please Stand Up by Joe Kellogg

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#51 Apr 25, 2013
Wilson wrote:
<quoted text>
Indoctrinating young boys into the gay lifestyle is one of the main objectives of the Homosexual Agenda.
Why do you think so many young kids are "coming out" nowadays? When I was a kid there were NO gay kids, well maybe one or two. Now everywhere you look there's kids claiming that they're gay. It's ridiculous.
The Fundamentalist Agenda is absolutely natural, ancient, and powerful — but the liberal impulse makes us humane.

The most famous definition of fundamentalism is H. L. Mencken's: a terrible, pervasive fear that someone, somewhere, is having fun. There's something to this. Fundamentalism is too fearful, too restrictive, too lacking in faith to provide a home for the human spirit to soar or for human societies to blossom....

From 1988 to 1993, the American Academy of Arts and Sciences sponsored an interdisciplinary study known as The Fundamentalism Project, the largest such study ever done. More than 100 scholars from all over the world took part, reporting on every imaginable kind of fundamentalism. And what they discovered was that the agenda of all fundamentalist movements in the world is virtually identical, regardless of religion or culture.

They identified five characteristics shared by virtually all fundamentalisms.... there is one rigid set of rules, with police and military might to enforce them, and education is tightly controlled by the state. One scholar suggested that it's helpful to understand fundamentalism as religious fascism, and fascism as political fundamentalism. The phrase “overcoming the modern” is a fascist slogan dating back to at least 1941. The fifth point is the most abstract, though it's foundational. Fundamentalists deny history in a radical and idiosyncratic way....

By Davidson Loehr
http://www.uuworld.org/2004/01/feature2.html

“Luke laughs at hypocrites!”

Since: Sep 10

Palm Springs, California

#52 Apr 25, 2013
DNF wrote:
<quoted text>Take 3 bazingas and 22 snaps out of petty cash.
Brilliant, flawless, classic!
Been having 'fun' the last hour or so on another thread with someone still using the "practicing homosexual" phrase (sounds like Jr. high school experimentation to me). Ever hear of a "practicing heterosexual"? Gee now that I think about it another phrase comes to mind! But it involves payment!
I'm going to start asking people who say they are straight if they are "active heterosexuals". Most will probably think I'm asking about diet and exercise!
Ah, that reminds me, I have some PRACTICE to attend to...I don't want to lose my EDGE! As they tell us during piano lessons or cooking classes, practice DOES make perfect.
real dad

Chicago, IL

#53 Apr 25, 2013
dad of 3 wrote:
I don't think there is ANYTHING wrong with having gay scout leaders, I mean with their policy now it's like they believe there is no such thing as a Christian men. True homosexuality is not condoned in the Bible, but neither does it mean they should be ostracized and hated on. Christianity is not a religion of hate, although a lot of people of turned it into that on this issue. I am not gay, but I would have no problem with my son joining scouting knowing that the scout leader was. For one thing I think statistically gay men have a lower instance of molesting little boys then hetero men do. And also, even if they did something my son knows not to let anyone touch them in a way he doesn't want – the same lesson our daughters know. And when I was in scouts there was more than one good old-fashioned circle jerk and the counselors/troup leaders want even involved! So I would have no problem with it.
Homosexuals all the time say they're straight to try to persuade--your having knowledge of homosexual talking points is odd, and your circle jerk is downright bizarre.

But the BSA--Boy Scouts of America--fought a billionaire homosexual trust funder all the way to the US Supreme Court...

...where my group--THE BOY SCOUTS OF AMERICA--won!

This issue is done.

“Just takin' it easy”

Since: Mar 10

Owensville, Mo.

#55 Apr 25, 2013
DNF wrote:
<quoted text>Take 3 bazingas and 22 snaps out of petty cash.
Brilliant, flawless, classic!
Been having 'fun' the last hour or so on another thread with someone still using the "practicing homosexual" phrase (sounds like Jr. high school experimentation to me). Ever hear of a "practicing heterosexual"? Gee now that I think about it another phrase comes to mind! But it involves payment!
I'm going to start asking people who say they are straight if they are "active heterosexuals". Most will probably think I'm asking about diet and exercise!
"Practicing homosexual"? Sounds like they haven't got it down perfect yet!
cindy

Denver, CO

#56 Apr 25, 2013
Its like putting the mouse 'n charge of the cheese

“Luke laughs at hypocrites!”

Since: Sep 10

Palm Springs, California

#57 Apr 25, 2013
cindy wrote:
Its like putting the mouse 'n charge of the cheese
Putting a liar like you in front of a computer is like putting a thief in front of a tray of diamonds.

Even lying about what sex you are now, liar?

Stop lying, liar.
Gary

Humble, TX

#58 Apr 25, 2013
Rainbow Kid wrote:
<quoted text>
Gay guys are born with the same sexual orientation your 'mother' was born with; attracted to men
.
Is your life ruined because your mother is attracted to men?
My mother is a woman is your mom a man? Maybe so and thats why you are so messed up you idiot. Who wants a man attracted to cock taking their little boys out to the woods to indoctrinate them to gay desires. Scouting is about boys growing up to be real men not flaming c*ck sucking fags. There should be laws preventing any gay from contact with any little boy just like there is for any other pedo. What exactly do you want contact with little boys in boy scouts for anyway??? I think we all know the answer to that one dont we. Its bad enough you exsist muchless ruining little boys lives too. LEAVE OUR KIDS ALONE!!!
Joey

United States

#59 Apr 25, 2013
Gary wrote:
<quoted text>My mother is a woman is your mom a man? Maybe so and thats why you are so messed up you idiot. Who wants a man attracted to cock taking their little boys out to the woods to indoctrinate them to gay desires. Scouting is about boys growing up to be real men not flaming c*ck sucking fags. There should be laws preventing any gay from contact with any little boy just like there is for any other pedo. What exactly do you want contact with little boys in boy scouts for anyway??? I think we all know the answer to that one dont we. Its bad enough you exsist muchless ruining little boys lives too. LEAVE OUR KIDS ALONE!!!
You tell 'em, Gary!!!
Gary

Humble, TX

#60 Apr 25, 2013
Old Hoot wrote:
<quoted text>
"Homosexual Agenda"?!?!?! OH PLEASE, give it a rest, will ya! I've never heard ANYTHING so ridiculous. Where did you get that, from a fortune cookie? As to "gay kids", there are no less than there were when I was a kid and I'm 65. There were no less gay people back then than there are now; they were just a lot more quiet about it. Now, they (the GLBT community in general) doesn't feel they have to be ashamed of their sexual proclivities. Are you one of those who believe that homosexuals CHOOSE a lifestyle that will cause them to endure the kind of humiliation and ridicule that you are spewing? If you are, you are horribly misinformed and need to be re-educated before you contaminate others into take a giant step backward into the past.
You know there is another group of perverts that defend what they are and what they do just like you do they are called Pedos.Both groups want access to kids as well. Odd how much you two groups have in common isnt it? Why not let self proclaimed pedophiles be boy scout leaders too after all God made them that way too no doubt.

“Just takin' it easy”

Since: Mar 10

Owensville, Mo.

#61 Apr 25, 2013
Gary wrote:
<quoted text>You know there is another group of perverts that defend what they are and what they do just like you do they are called Pedos.Both groups want access to kids as well. Odd how much you two groups have in common isnt it? Why not let self proclaimed pedophiles be boy scout leaders too after all God made them that way too no doubt.
Both groups want access to boys? Perhaps, but a pedo is someone who is attracted to children for the purpose of having sex, nothing more. Why do you insist that all gay people are pedos and why do you automatically think of homosexuals as perverts? They are 2 entirely different types of people. I know you know the difference between a pedo and a homo, you just withhold that info to start up an argument. I know the difference and so does anyone with half a working brain cell. I don't think you argue to prove a point, you just argue.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#62 Apr 25, 2013
eJohn wrote:
I don't think the "christian" leaders of the BSA are even a little bit concerned about the two issues the author of this article brings up (shunning sinners or sexual molestation).
I think their REAL problem is with allowing gay people to be in a position where they might gain the respect of the Scouts and the Scouts might learn that gay people are no different than anyone else. They want gay people to be objects of fear and disdain.
Allowing the Scouts to learn that gay people aren't evil, horrible, scary monsters is a WAY bigger concern for them then those other things.
nuff said.

“Luke laughs at hypocrites!”

Since: Sep 10

Palm Springs, California

#63 Apr 25, 2013
Gary wrote:
<quoted text>You know there is another group of perverts that defend what they are and what they do just like you do they are called Pedos.Both groups want access to kids as well. Odd how much you two groups have in common isnt it? Why not let self proclaimed pedophiles be boy scout leaders too after all God made them that way too no doubt.
There is a "group" of liars who use false names constantly on Topix and they are all you.

“Luke laughs at hypocrites!”

Since: Sep 10

Palm Springs, California

#64 Apr 25, 2013
Joey wrote:
<quoted text>You tell 'em, Gary!!!
Commenting on your own posts, a liar and too stupid to realize he is not the other person he made up.
Hooley ODooley

Denpasar, Indonesia

#65 Apr 25, 2013
Where will it end ? Future boy scouts might be able to achieve badges for sodomy and buggery and fellatio.
Joey

United States

#66 Apr 25, 2013
I considered turning queer when I was younger but decided not two cause burning in hell for eternity is a really long time.
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#67 Apr 25, 2013
Gary wrote:
<quoted text>My mother is a woman is your mom a man? Maybe so and thats why you are so messed up you idiot. Who wants a man attracted to cock taking their little boys out to the woods to indoctrinate them to gay desires. Scouting is about boys growing up to be real men not flaming c*ck sucking fags. There should be laws preventing any gay from contact with any little boy just like there is for any other pedo. What exactly do you want contact with little boys in boy scouts for anyway??? I think we all know the answer to that one dont we. Its bad enough you exsist muchless ruining little boys lives too. LEAVE OUR KIDS ALONE!!!
Your mother molests little boys?
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#68 Apr 25, 2013
Joey wrote:
I considered turning queer when I was younger but decided not two cause burning in hell for eternity is a really long time.
Good for us and bad for you; sugar
.
Only gay men will make it to heaven
.
They will only be redeemed from among men, and they have to be the first fruits
.
Men who have sex with women won't get in
.
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Revelation 14:1> And I looked, and loe, a Lambe stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundreth fourty and foure thousand, hauing his Fathers Name written in their foreheads.
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Revelation 14:2> And I heard a voice from heauen, as the voice of many waters, and as the voyce of a great thunder: and I heard the voyce of harpers, harping with their harpes.
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Revelation 14:3> And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the foure beasts, and the Elders, and no man could learne that song, but the hundreth and fourtie and foure thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.
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Revelation 14:4> These are they which were not defiled with women: for they are virgines: These are they which follow the Lambe whithersoeuer hee goeth: These were redeemed from among men, being the first fruits vnto God, and to the Lambe.
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Revelation 14:5> And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God.
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all american kid

Mountain View, CA

#69 Apr 25, 2013
yes, achyfi:
Discrimination is allowed. Everybody does it. Discrimination if good for a lot of things. They don't allow cats in dog shows. They don't allow camels to race in the Kentucky Derby. Does anybody ask why there are no white guys in the Harlem Globetrotters? Does anybody even question BET (Black Entertainment Television) or the Congressional Black Caucus? What about NOW or the National Organization for Women? WTF? All these organizations are discriminatory as freakin' hell!

I also occasionally socialized with some of my gay co-workers and found some of their anti-woman remarks disturbing. One of them, a flaming "fairy queen", actually loved women so much that he emulated feminine behavior as much as possible and would complain when other gays would bad-mouth women. Behind his back, the others were make comments on how embarrassing it was for him to act so "fem". As for the LBGT people, most of them hate, and I do mean hate, bisexuals because they are jealous of them dating "the enemy". Go figure.
[socializing such as watching Monday Night Football together or having a barbecue on the 4th of July]

dad of 3:
There is nothing wrong with a gay scout leader, I agree. Boy Scouts do not ostracize or hate (read the Scout Laws or the Scout Oath for proof of this). However, once a scout of leader openly declares his sexual orientation, he is obviously looking to ass-rape a young boy. On all of my scouting activities, in the city, camping outdoors or backpacking the Sierra Crest, we never discussed any type of sexual orientation. Anybody who even tried to start a discussion concerning sexuality was immediately told to seek the counsel of his parents or church leaders. Sexual agendas or any type are not, nor were they ever a part of the scout program. The scout oath says that you are "morally straight". If you do not aspire to become morally straight, do not join the boy scouts. Simple.
I would never join a gay organization and whine all the time on how they should all become straight. It would be a waste of my time.

DNF:
In Christianity, your sins will be forgiven only if you make a sincere attempt at living a moral life and make a sincere apology for your sinful ways.

Some local gays and atheists (i.e., Dave Rice et al.) tried to make a boy scout type organization that promoted homosexuality and atheism. The organization was called "Scouting for All". It Failed! Nyuk, Nyuk!

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