Final mass held for gay Catholics

Feb 17, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: BBC News

A mass for gay and lesbian Catholics is being held for the last time in central London because the Church says it goes against its views on sexuality.

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Virgin Firstfruit

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The Catholic Church has dismissed Gay People; but GOD has not
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The Catholic Church is out of sync with GOD

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Yep, you can believe in God, follow God but no need for any organized religion and esp one which is rather selective about what is convenient for them to follow and what is not.
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Virgin Firstfruit wrote:
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Um, gay and lesbian Catholic can go to Mass anytime they want with everyone else.

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It is totally beyond my understanding why anyone needs an organized religion in order to worship the God in which the person believes. Any organized religion that would set arbitrary guidelines on who you may love, and with whom you may share your life, is not worth the attention of those seeking their God. So long as there is love between two consenting adults, no religion should be needed to certify that love. Their belief that their God approves is enough.

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If British gay Catholics really need to pray to the BJMITS (Big Jewish Mama in the Sky), they should check out the various Old Catholic denominations. Otherwise they should become Anglicans. Except for the Maryolatry and the Poop, they are almost the same!
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RalphB wrote:
It is totally beyond my understanding why anyone needs an organized religion in order to worship the God in which the person believes. Any organized religion that would set arbitrary guidelines on who you may love, and with whom you may share your life, is not worth the attention of those seeking their God. So long as there is love between two consenting adults, no religion should be needed to certify that love. Their belief that their God approves is enough.
Broad and simplistic.

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Dan wrote:
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Broad and simplistic.
Most truths are.
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Most truths are.
"Consent" does not grant license.

You know that as well as I do.

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"Consent" does not grant license.
You know that as well as I do.
Want to expand on that? I'm not sure what you are saying.
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RalphB wrote:
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Want to expand on that? I'm not sure what you are saying.
"So long as there is love between two consenting adults, no religion should be needed to certify that love. Their belief that their God approves is enough."

Religion isn't required for any individual to "certify" their mutually consensual relationship, but even the state doesn't grant license to every mutually consensual relationship.

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Dan wrote:
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"So long as there is love between two consenting adults, no religion should be needed to certify that love. Their belief that their God approves is enough."
Religion isn't required for any individual to "certify" their mutually consensual relationship, but even the state doesn't grant license to every mutually consensual relationship.
If I'm in love with someone and it's a mutually consensual relationship, I cannot, for instance, marry her if she's already married to someone else (or if I am likewise situated).

I.E. mutual love and consent does not equal "license".

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Dan wrote:
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"So long as there is love between two consenting adults, no religion should be needed to certify that love. Their belief that their God approves is enough."
Religion isn't required for any individual to "certify" their mutually consensual relationship, but even the state doesn't grant license to every mutually consensual relationship.
I was talking about religion. Secular law is another subject, entirely. I'll leave that for a thread concerned with it. And my statement regarding religion stands.
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I was talking about religion. Secular law is another subject, entirely. I'll leave that for a thread concerned with it. And my statement regarding religion stands.
You should start your own.
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The catholic church is dead to me.

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Dan wrote:
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You should start your own.
That would be an organized religion, and I don't believe in them. Why start off being hypocritical, as all religions are. Quite redundant, wouldn't you say?
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The usual , meaningless gesture of an obsolete , wilfully out-of-touch-with-reality institution .. They should follow this with a last one for pedophile priests .. but no church is big enough .
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That would be an organized religion, and I don't believe in them. Why start off being hypocritical, as all religions are. Quite redundant, wouldn't you say?
Well, I'd say that you declaring what God does or doesn't approve of while castigating others for their own beliefs on the subject is indeed "hypocritical".

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Well, I'd say that you declaring what God does or doesn't approve of while castigating others for their own beliefs on the subject is indeed "hypocritical".
Please tell me where I declared what God does or does not approve of. I made no claims of God either approving or disapproving. I said "their" belief, not mine. You don't even know if I believe in a God or not, so attributing such beliefs to me is a little premature, don't you think?

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Dan wrote:
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If I'm in love with someone and it's a mutually consensual relationship, I cannot, for instance, marry her if she's already married to someone else (or if I am likewise situated).
I.E. mutual love and consent does not equal "license".
You are confusing legal marriage and religious marriage. I am not.
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Either you believe in God's Word or you don't. If you belief the Bible is God's Word and that He gave us certain laws to abide by then you should abide by them. NOBODY should pick and choose which laws to follow. Not me and not you. Yes God is love. But He is soooo much more than that. So is His Church. If you want a simplistic and newly created "God is Love" religion fine. Its your choice to start or follow that religion. However know that your "church" isn't the one God intended 2000 years ago. Gays are entitled to attend Mass. They may even partake in communion (though they shouldn't). But gays are not entitled to special prayers. Straights don't get special prayes.

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