Pope wades diplomatically into gay marriage debate

Jun 14, 2013 Full story: Seattle Times 132

Pope Francis waded diplomatically into the gay marriage debate Friday, telling the Archbishop of Canterbury he wants to work together to promote family values "based on marriage."

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Since: Jun 13

Montrose, PA

#21 Jun 15, 2013
Stating the Truth about the depravity of homosexual behaviour is neither irrational nor silliy. The Holy Father has the responsability of proclaiming the Truth God has revealed to His Church thtough divine revelation.

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#22 Jun 15, 2013
The bishop of Rome's comments display the RC version of Lysenko-ism when it comes to the Social Sciences.

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#23 Jun 15, 2013
A mother and father ... Any mother and father?

Like these?

http://news.msn.com/crime-justice/parents-jai...

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#24 Jun 15, 2013
anglicanusepapa wrote:
Stating the Truth about the depravity of homosexual behaviour is neither irrational nor silliy. The Holy Father has the responsability of proclaiming the Truth God has revealed to His Church thtough divine revelation.
And what are the fruits of this asserted "depravity"?

Here are a couple ...



http://www.youtube.com/watch...

No bad tree produced good fruit.

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#25 Jun 15, 2013
A little more data for consideration ...

http://adoption.about.com/od/gaylesbian/f/gay...

Since: Mar 07

Hanover, VA

#26 Jun 15, 2013
anglicanusepapa wrote:
Stating the Truth about the depravity of homosexual behaviour is neither irrational nor silliy. The Holy Father has the responsability of proclaiming the Truth God has revealed to His Church thtough divine revelation.
The "depravity" is coming from inside YOUR head. Your thoughts. Your imagination. Your fantasies about others. Why project that on strangers?

And to do that in the name of God is the ultimate depravity.

Since: Jun 13

Montrose, PA

#27 Jun 15, 2013
Quest wrote:
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The "depravity" is coming from inside YOUR head. Your thoughts. Your imagination. Your fantasies about others. Why project that on strangers?
And to do that in the name of God is the ultimate depravity.
There is no sense in trying reason with people like you as you do not believe in objective Truth. You do not believe in God, just in who you wish Him to be. You have decided to create God in your own image. You deny Sacred Scripture and hardened your heart so as to continue in your favourite sins. God's Word explains this in the letter of St. Paul to the Romans.
Qwerty26

Rehoboth Beach, DE

#28 Jun 15, 2013
anglicanusepapa wrote:
<quoted text>There is no sense in trying reason with people like you as you do not believe in objective Truth. You do not believe in God, just in who you wish Him to be. You have decided to create God in your own image. You deny Sacred Scripture and hardened your heart so as to continue in your favourite sins. God's Word explains this in the letter of St. Paul to the Romans.
Hilarious! Your words certainly describe you - the god you believe in is who you wish him to be. You have created god in your own image. Isn't it amazing that YOUR god hates the very same things that you do? Then you claim that someone else's words (so-called "Saint" Paul) are god's words. Can't your deity speak for herself?

Since: Mar 09

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#29 Jun 15, 2013
anglicanusepapa wrote:
<quoted text>There is no sense in trying reason with people like you as you do not believe in objective Truth. You do not believe in God, just in who you wish Him to be. You have decided to create God in your own image. You deny Sacred Scripture and hardened your heart so as to continue in your favourite sins. God's Word explains this in the letter of St. Paul to the Romans.
Neither what you've demonstrated regarding your concept of "God", nor your assertion of an inerrant, infallible and monolithic "bible", bear any resemblance to "objective Truth".

An "objective" perspective examines the available evidence and is formed accordingly.

You've shut the door on learning.

Learn something.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Development_of_t...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Development_of_t...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Development_of_t...

Since: Mar 07

Hanover, VA

#30 Jun 16, 2013
anglicanusepapa wrote:
<quoted text>There is no sense in trying reason with people like you as you do not believe in objective Truth. You do not believe in God, just in who you wish Him to be......
Wow. Can you prove that?

How many human hearts and souls have you entered and judged, in God's place, to be able to say anything like that with certainty?

Not believing in YOU, and YOUR thoughts and biblical interpretations, is not the same as not believing the God who made some of us gay.

That you think it is, says a lot about you.

And it's not pretty.

Since: Jun 13

San Jose, CA

#31 Jun 16, 2013
What isn't very pretty on this forum is the hatred and ignorance spewed by the pseudo-intellectuals who have chosen to follow the path of Pontius Pilate and look directly in the face of the God who died on the Cross to save them from their sins (perversions) and say to Him, "What is truth?" If you deny the Truth of God's infallible divine revelation - Sacred Scripture, Sacred Tradition, and the teaching authority of the Church (Magisterium) then you deny the God who gave them to man. You have chosen to make yourself the one who decides what is right and what is wrong. You are no better than say, Hitler or Charlie Manson. I do not choose what is right or wrong, I strive to follow what God has revealed to man. I am a s inner and often fail, but I don't "call good evil and evil good".

Since: Jun 13

Montrose, PA

#33 Jun 16, 2013
I haven't made on slurr or nasty comment on this forum and yet I have been attacked with name calling and unjust characterisations. I try to follow the example of Christ. Through study of history, philosophy, religion and Scripture I have come to know the Truth of Christ's Holy Catholic Church. I choose to follow that faith not because I think it teaches what I believe, but because it is the Truth. If I gave in to my own desires and pleasures I would be a most despicable person, perhaps worse than most of histories villains.
I will pray for all those that villify God and His Tuth as it is only themselves that they are hurting.

Since: Dec 12

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#34 Jun 16, 2013
RalphB wrote:
Pope Francis, " Every person needs a masculine father and a feminine mother to help them settle their identity."
Gee, I had a masculine father and a feminine mother, and my gay identity was "settled" in 1959, when I came out at age 15. And then, there is this (I presume straight) guy who was raised by a lesbian couple: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =k4P11MgEJPYXX
You need to focus on your eternal identity: www.scribd.com/doc/31322017 ...

Since: Dec 12

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#35 Jun 16, 2013
anglicanusepapa wrote:
I haven't made on slurr or nasty comment on this forum and yet I have been attacked with name calling and unjust characterisations. I try to follow the example of Christ. Through study of history, philosophy, religion and Scripture I have come to know the Truth of Christ's Holy Catholic Church. I choose to follow that faith not because I think it teaches what I believe, but because it is the Truth. If I gave in to my own desires and pleasures I would be a most despicable person, perhaps worse than most of histories villains.
I will pray for all those that villify God and His Tuth as it is only themselves that they are hurting.
You mean these truths? www.scribd.com/doc/31322017 ...

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Since: May 13

Europa

#36 Jun 16, 2013
anglicanusepapa wrote:
<quoted text>There is no sense in trying reason with people like you as you do not believe in objective Truth. You do not believe in God, just in who you wish Him to be. You have decided to create God in your own image. You deny Sacred Scripture and hardened your heart so as to continue in your favourite sins. God's Word explains this in the letter of St. Paul to the Romans.
Since you have admitted "is no sense in trying reason with people like you", then please stop posting here trying to do so. And since you seem to want to live as Christ did 2000 years ago, then I suggest that you practice celibacy and chastity, attend a synagogue each Saturday, and promote those things among all people also.

Since: Jun 13

Scottsdale, AZ

#37 Jun 16, 2013
anglicanusepapa wrote:
I haven't made on slurr or nasty comment on this forum and yet I have been attacked with name calling and unjust characterisations. I try to follow the example of Christ. Through study of history, philosophy, religion and Scripture I have come to know the Truth of Christ's Holy Catholic Church. I choose to follow that faith not because I think it teaches what I believe, but because it is the Truth. If I gave in to my own desires and pleasures I would be a most despicable person, perhaps worse than most of histories villains.
I will pray for all those that villify God and His Tuth as it is only themselves that they are hurting.
You've made several slurs and nasty comments actually. Liar
Qwerty26

Rehoboth Beach, DE

#38 Jun 16, 2013
anglicanusepapa wrote:
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You have chosen to make yourself the one who decides what is right and what is wrong...
Yes, we humans each decide what is right and what is wrong. Just like you. Do you follow every last law and commandment that you claim your deity handed down? Of course not, because some of them are downright obscene, and for that matter, illegal in most of the world. Do you lead the crowd to the stoning pit when a man finds that his bride is not a virgin? If not, you are not following your deity's laws, just like every other normal human being on this globe. So you, and all of us, are the same. No one is going to enforce stone age morality as described in your ancient text. If they did, they'd be in prison.

Since: Dec 08

Toronto, ON, Canada

#40 Jun 16, 2013
anglicanusepapa wrote:
Stating the Truth about the depravity of homosexual behaviour is neither irrational nor silliy. The Holy Father has the responsability of proclaiming the Truth God has revealed to His Church thtough divine revelation.
Just like Pope Barberini imprisoned Galileo for denying the Truth that the sun revolves around the earth.

“Equality First”

Since: Jan 09

St. Louis, MO

#41 Jun 16, 2013
He is Coming Soon wrote:
<quoted text>You need to focus on your eternal identity: www.scribd.com/doc/31322017 ...
I already have, and I don't need your "christian" church to try and teach me anything. I already have the answers, and they are not what you would want to hear.

Since: Dec 08

Toronto, ON, Canada

#42 Jun 16, 2013
He is Coming Soon wrote:
<quoted text>You need to focus on your eternal identity: www.scribd.com/doc/31322017 ...
My eternal identity is a bunch of carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen, oxygen, sulfur, calcium, phosphorus, sodium, chlorine, potassium, iron, magnesium and and a handful other other elements' atoms which will eventually wind up as quarks in a black hole somewhere when the galaxy burns out along with some leptons floating who knows where. That is all there there is to it. The rest is hocus-pocus nonsense that some people would like to thing is the truth.

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