Religious freedom and LGBT rights

Mar 11, 2013 Full story: Ekklesia Daily News 263

'Religious Freedom and LGBT Rights - are they compatible?' This was the title and theme of the Cutting Edge Consortium meeting in The Jubilee Room this evening, 11 March 2013.

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“Jesus is Lord”

Since: Aug 11

Greenwood, Indiana

#1 Mar 13, 2013
Religious freedom is the rights for everyone in this country. But when it comes to the LGBT rights there is no such rights in the eyes of God. There may be laws in this country that give the LGBT there right. But those people who pass laws like that will answer to God FACT! Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13,! Corinthians 6:9,10, sin is sin and this kind of lifestyle will burn in hell "FACT"!!

“God Loves Ilks!”

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#2 Mar 13, 2013
ThePreacherman01 wrote:
Religious freedom is the rights for everyone in this country. But when it comes to the LGBT rights there is no such rights in the eyes of God. There may be laws in this country that give the LGBT there right. But those people who pass laws like that will answer to God FACT! Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13,! Corinthians 6:9,10, sin is sin and this kind of lifestyle will burn in hell "FACT"!!
Being homosexual is not a sin.
Neither is same-sex marriage.
Perhaps it is you and your kind who will do the answering to God for the hatred of folks who are a part of His Creation.
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#3 Mar 13, 2013
ThePreacherman01 wrote:
Religious freedom is the rights for everyone in this country. But when it comes to the LGBT rights there is no such rights in the eyes of God. There may be laws in this country that give the LGBT there right. But those people who pass laws like that will answer to God FACT! Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13,! Corinthians 6:9,10, sin is sin and this kind of lifestyle will burn in hell "FACT"!!
Your terrorist threats will get you nowhere; sugar
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Only gay men will make it to heaven
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They will only be redeemed from among men, and they have to be the first fruits
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Men who have sex with women won't get in
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Revelation 14:1> And I looked, and loe, a Lambe stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundreth fourty and foure thousand, hauing his Fathers Name written in their foreheads.
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Revelation 14:2> And I heard a voice from heauen, as the voice of many waters, and as the voyce of a great thunder: and I heard the voyce of harpers, harping with their harpes.
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Revelation 14:3> And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the foure beasts, and the Elders, and no man could learne that song, but the hundreth and fourtie and foure thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.
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Revelation 14:4> These are they which were not defiled with women: for they are virgines: These are they which follow the Lambe whithersoeuer hee goeth: These were redeemed from among men, being the first fruits vnto God, and to the Lambe.
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Revelation 14:5> And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God.
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“Jesus=only way into Heaven”

Since: Nov 12

saved by grace through faith

#4 Mar 13, 2013
Homosexuality is a sin:
Genesis 19:1-11, Leviticus 18:22, Leviticus 20:13, 1 Kings 14:24, 1 Kings 15:12, 2 Kings 23:7, Judges 19:16-24, Romans 1:18-32, 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 ,1 Timothy 1:8-10, Jude 1:7

Link to verses:
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...
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Marriage is between a MAN and a WOMAN:
Genesis 2:22-24, Matthew 19:4-6, Mark 10:6-9, Ephesians 5:22-23, Colossians 3:18-19,Hebrews 13:4, 1 Corinthians 7:1-16, Proverbs 19:14, Proverbs 18:22, Proverbs 12:4, Proverbs 31:10, Deuteronomy 24:5, Proverbs 30:18-19, Proverbs 20:6-7, Proverbs 5:18-19

Link to verses:
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...
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Fornication (sex outside of marriage) is a sin:
1 Corinthians 7:2, Acts 15:20, 1 Corinthians 5:1, 1 Corinthians 6:13, 1 Corinthians 6:18, 1 Corinthians 10:8, 2 Corinthians 12:21, Galatians 5:19, Ephesians 5:3, Colossians 3:5, 1 Thessalonians 4:3, Jude 1:7, Hebrews 13:4

Link to verses:
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...
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The Word of God is clear against SIN. But Jesus can break the bondage of sin and forgive them of their sins. A truly saved person is a NEW creature in Christ.......

2 Corinthians 5:17-Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

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How to get saved and be forgiven of your sin:
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/how_to_be_save...

“Jesus is Lord”

Since: Aug 11

Greenwood, Indiana

#5 Mar 13, 2013
Nettiebelle wrote:
<quoted text>Being homosexual is not a sin.
Neither is same-sex marriage.
Perhaps it is you and your kind who will do the answering to God for the hatred of folks who are a part of His Creation.
By God words I am 100% right FACT. Open up your Bible and prove to me it isn't a sin. In case you didn't know the RCC say it is a sin!! Get a real life and stop this believing in these lies!!

“Jesus is Lord”

Since: Aug 11

Greenwood, Indiana

#6 Mar 13, 2013
Romans Road wrote:
Homosexuality is a sin:
Genesis 19:1-11, Leviticus 18:22, Leviticus 20:13, 1 Kings 14:24, 1 Kings 15:12, 2 Kings 23:7, Judges 19:16-24, Romans 1:18-32, 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 ,1 Timothy 1:8-10, Jude 1:7
Link to verses:
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...
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Marriage is between a MAN and a WOMAN:
Genesis 2:22-24, Matthew 19:4-6, Mark 10:6-9, Ephesians 5:22-23, Colossians 3:18-19,Hebrews 13:4, 1 Corinthians 7:1-16, Proverbs 19:14, Proverbs 18:22, Proverbs 12:4, Proverbs 31:10, Deuteronomy 24:5, Proverbs 30:18-19, Proverbs 20:6-7, Proverbs 5:18-19
Link to verses:
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...
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Fornication (sex outside of marriage) is a sin:
1 Corinthians 7:2, Acts 15:20, 1 Corinthians 5:1, 1 Corinthians 6:13, 1 Corinthians 6:18, 1 Corinthians 10:8, 2 Corinthians 12:21, Galatians 5:19, Ephesians 5:3, Colossians 3:5, 1 Thessalonians 4:3, Jude 1:7, Hebrews 13:4
Link to verses:
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...
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The Word of God is clear against SIN. But Jesus can break the bondage of sin and forgive them of their sins. A truly saved person is a NEW creature in Christ.......
2 Corinthians 5:17-Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
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How to get saved and be forgiven of your sin:
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/how_to_be_save...
A BIG AMEN!!
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#7 Mar 13, 2013
Romans Road wrote:
Homosexuality is a sin:
Genesis 19:1-11, Leviticus 18:22, Leviticus 20:13, 1 Kings 14:24, 1 Kings 15:12, 2 Kings 23:7, Judges 19:16-24, Romans 1:18-32, 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 ,1 Timothy 1:8-10, Jude 1:7
Link to verses:
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...
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Marriage is between a MAN and a WOMAN:
Genesis 2:22-24, Matthew 19:4-6, Mark 10:6-9, Ephesians 5:22-23, Colossians 3:18-19,Hebrews 13:4, 1 Corinthians 7:1-16, Proverbs 19:14, Proverbs 18:22, Proverbs 12:4, Proverbs 31:10, Deuteronomy 24:5, Proverbs 30:18-19, Proverbs 20:6-7, Proverbs 5:18-19
Link to verses:
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...
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Fornication (sex outside of marriage) is a sin:
1 Corinthians 7:2, Acts 15:20, 1 Corinthians 5:1, 1 Corinthians 6:13, 1 Corinthians 6:18, 1 Corinthians 10:8, 2 Corinthians 12:21, Galatians 5:19, Ephesians 5:3, Colossians 3:5, 1 Thessalonians 4:3, Jude 1:7, Hebrews 13:4
Link to verses:
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...
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The Word of God is clear against SIN. But Jesus can break the bondage of sin and forgive them of their sins. A truly saved person is a NEW creature in Christ.......
2 Corinthians 5:17-Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
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How to get saved and be forgiven of your sin:
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/how_to_be_save...
Hi Romans ;o))

“KNOW JESUS and KNOW PEACE”

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#8 Mar 13, 2013
Romans Road wrote:
Homosexuality is a sin:
Genesis 19:1-11, Leviticus 18:22, Leviticus 20:13, 1 Kings 14:24, 1 Kings 15:12, 2 Kings 23:7, Judges 19:16-24, Romans 1:18-32, 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 ,1 Timothy 1:8-10, Jude 1:7
Link to verses:
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...
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Marriage is between a MAN and a WOMAN:
Genesis 2:22-24, Matthew 19:4-6, Mark 10:6-9, Ephesians 5:22-23, Colossians 3:18-19,Hebrews 13:4, 1 Corinthians 7:1-16, Proverbs 19:14, Proverbs 18:22, Proverbs 12:4, Proverbs 31:10, Deuteronomy 24:5, Proverbs 30:18-19, Proverbs 20:6-7, Proverbs 5:18-19
Link to verses:
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...
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Fornication (sex outside of marriage) is a sin:
1 Corinthians 7:2, Acts 15:20, 1 Corinthians 5:1, 1 Corinthians 6:13, 1 Corinthians 6:18, 1 Corinthians 10:8, 2 Corinthians 12:21, Galatians 5:19, Ephesians 5:3, Colossians 3:5, 1 Thessalonians 4:3, Jude 1:7, Hebrews 13:4
Link to verses:
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...
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The Word of God is clear against SIN. But Jesus can break the bondage of sin and forgive them of their sins. A truly saved person is a NEW creature in Christ.......
2 Corinthians 5:17-Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
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How to get saved and be forgiven of your sin:
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/how_to_be_save...
YOU ARE RIGHT ON! THANKS! AMEN!
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#9 Mar 13, 2013
ThePreacherman01 wrote:
<quoted text>By God words I am 100% right FACT. Open up your Bible and prove to me it isn't a sin. In case you didn't know the RCC say it is a sin!! Get a real life and stop this believing in these lies!!
Calm down; sugar
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Here is your personal copy of GOD's official sin list:
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1. I am the Lord thy God. Thou shalt have no other Gods before me
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2. Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain
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3. Thou shalt keep holy the sabbath day
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4. Honor thy father and thy mother
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5. Thou shalt not kill
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6. Thou shalt not commit adultery
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7. Thou shalt not steal
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8. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor
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9. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife
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10. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's goods
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Notice how gays are nowhere to be found on GOD's sin list
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So we'll continue living only by GOD's sin list; not your sin list; nor anyone else's
heartandmind

Moline, IL

#10 Mar 13, 2013
American denominations that accept and embrace homosexual members of the congregation and / or clergy:
United Church of Christ
Unity School of Christianity
Most Church of the Brethren groups
many but not all Anglican, United Methodist, Northern Baptist, and Congregational groups.
Reform Judaism
Conservative Egalitarian
Judaism
Reconstructionist JUDAISM
Metropolitan Community Church
Association of Welcoming Affirming Baptists
Ecumenical Catholic Church
International Christian Community Churches
Evangelical Lutheran Church in America
US Episcopal Church
Global Alliance of Affirming Apostolic Pentecostals
Restoration Church of Jesus Christ (Latter Day Saint denomination)
United Church of Canada
USA Presbyterian Church
In Europe, the following denominations accept and embrace homosexuality in it's members or clergy :
Evangelical Church in Germany
Swiss Reformed Church
Protestant Church - Netherlands
Church of Denmark
Church of Norway
Church of Sweden
Evangelical Lutheran Church of Finland
Church of Iceland
The following are specific churches that are open, accepting & embrace homosexuals as congregants and / or clergy :
Bethlehem Community, Faithful Companions of St. Francis religious community within Ecumenical Catholic Church (Liverpool, England)
Broadway United Methodist Church (Indianapolis, IN)
Cathedral of Hope (Dallas, Texas, USA)
Community Parish of St Bernadette Liverpool - congregation of Ecumenical Catholic Church (Liverpool, England)
Glide Memorial Church (San Francisco, California, USA)
Most Holy Redeemer Catholic Church (San Francisco, California, USA)
Grace Gospel Chapel (Seattle, Washington, USA)
Light of Love Fellowship (St. Louis, Missouri, USA)
Pullen Memorial Baptist Church (Raleigh, North Carolina, USA)
Tong-Kwang Light House Presbyterian Church (Taipei, Taiwan)
University Baptist Church (Austin, Texas, USA)
St. Paul's Anglican Church (Vancouver, BC)
Wake Forest Baptist Church (Winston-Salem, North Carolina, USA)
Walnut Creek United Methodist Church (Walnut Creek, California, USA)
Broadway Baptist Church - Ft. Worth, TX.
Celebration Community Church - Ft. Worth, TX
Royal Lane Baptist Church Dallas, Tx

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#11 Mar 13, 2013
ThePreacherman01 wrote:
Religious freedom is the rights for everyone in this country. But when it comes to the LGBT rights there is no such rights in the eyes of God. There may be laws in this country that give the LGBT there right. But those people who pass laws like that will answer to God FACT! Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13,! Corinthians 6:9,10, sin is sin and this kind of lifestyle will burn in hell "FACT"!!
Preach it!:)

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#12 Mar 13, 2013
Nettiebelle wrote:
<quoted text>Being homosexual is not a sin.
Neither is same-sex marriage.
Perhaps it is you and your kind who will do the answering to God for the hatred of folks who are a part of His Creation.
Your own church says otherwise. Not only do you cherry-pick the Bible, you do the same with your beloved RCC. Why not become a Hindu, instead? You are both, a bad Christian and Catholic!

“Invisible Pink Unicorn”

Since: May 08

Location hidden

#13 Mar 13, 2013
ThePreacherman01 wrote:
Religious freedom is the rights for everyone in this country. But when it comes to the LGBT rights there is no such rights in the eyes of God. There may be laws in this country that give the LGBT there right. But those people who pass laws like that will answer to God FACT! Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13,! Corinthians 6:9,10, sin is sin and this kind of lifestyle will burn in hell "FACT"!!
Fix it... The next time God and you are chatting it up explain to him that homosexuals are his children too and that he was wrong. If he is a loving god he will understand...

“Jesus=only way into Heaven”

Since: Nov 12

saved by grace through faith

#14 Mar 13, 2013
heartandmind wrote:
American denominations that accept and embrace homosexual members of the congregation and / or clergy:
United Church of Christ
Unity School of Christianity
Most Church of the Brethren groups
many but not all Anglican, United Methodist, Northern Baptist, and Congregational groups.
Reform Judaism
Conservative Egalitarian
Judaism
Reconstructionist JUDAISM
Metropolitan Community Church
Association of Welcoming Affirming Baptists
Ecumenical Catholic Church
International Christian Community Churches
Evangelical Lutheran Church in America
US Episcopal Church
Global Alliance of Affirming Apostolic Pentecostals
Restoration Church of Jesus Christ (Latter Day Saint denomination)
United Church of Canada
USA Presbyterian Church
In Europe, the following denominations accept and embrace homosexuality in it's members or clergy :
Evangelical Church in Germany
Swiss Reformed Church
Protestant Church - Netherlands
Church of Denmark
Church of Norway
Church of Sweden
Evangelical Lutheran Church of Finland
Church of Iceland
The following are specific churches that are open, accepting & embrace homosexuals as congregants and / or clergy :
Bethlehem Community, Faithful Companions of St. Francis religious community within Ecumenical Catholic Church (Liverpool, England)
Broadway United Methodist Church (Indianapolis, IN)
Cathedral of Hope (Dallas, Texas, USA)
Community Parish of St Bernadette Liverpool - congregation of Ecumenical Catholic Church (Liverpool, England)
Glide Memorial Church (San Francisco, California, USA)
Most Holy Redeemer Catholic Church (San Francisco, California, USA)
Grace Gospel Chapel (Seattle, Washington, USA)
Light of Love Fellowship (St. Louis, Missouri, USA)
Pullen Memorial Baptist Church (Raleigh, North Carolina, USA)
Tong-Kwang Light House Presbyterian Church (Taipei, Taiwan)
University Baptist Church (Austin, Texas, USA)
St. Paul's Anglican Church (Vancouver, BC)
Wake Forest Baptist Church (Winston-Salem, North Carolina, USA)
Walnut Creek United Methodist Church (Walnut Creek, California, USA)
Broadway Baptist Church - Ft. Worth, TX.
Celebration Community Church - Ft. Worth, TX
Royal Lane Baptist Church Dallas, Tx
^ Churches of Satan go against the Holy Bible. But the Word of God warned us about these latter days:

2 Timothy 4:3-4
3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
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Jude 1:18- How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
heartandmind

Moline, IL

#15 Mar 13, 2013
http://www.bible-history.com/isbe/A/ABOMINATI...

ABOMINATION

a-bom-i-na'-shun (piggul, to`ebhah, sheqets (shiqquts)): 3 Hebrew words rendered in the English Bible by "abomination," or "abominable thing," referring to things or practices abhorrent to Yahweh. It would be well if these words could be distinguished in translation, as they denote different degrees of abhorrence.
The word most used for this idea by the Hebrews & indicating the highest degree of abomination is to`ebhah, meaning primarily that which offends the religious sense of a people. When it is said, "The Egyptians might not eat bread with the Hebrews; for that is an abomination unto the Egyptians," the significance being that the Hebrews were repugnant to the Egyptians as foreigners, as of an inferior caste & especially as shepherds (Gen 46:34).

Among the objects described in the OT as "abominations" in this sense are heathen gods, such as Ashtoreth, Chemosh, Milcom, the "abominations" of the Zidonians (Phoenicians), Moabites & Ammonites,(2 Ki 23:13), and everything connected with the worship of such gods. When Pharaoh, remonstrating against the departure of the children of Israel, exhorted them to offer sacrifices to their God in Egypt, Moses said: "Shall we sacrifice the abomination of the Egyptians before their eyes, and will they not stone us?" (Ex 8:26).
Note that, not only the heathen idol itself but anything offered to or associated with the idol, all the paraphernalia of the cult, was called an "abomination," for it "is an abomination to Yahweh thy God" (Dt 7:25,26). To`ebhah is even used as synonymous with "idol" or heathen deity, as in Isa 44:19; Dt 32:16; 2 Ki 23:13; Ex 8:22 ff.
Everything akin to magic or divination is likewise an abomination to`ebhah. It is to be noted, however, that the word takes on in the later usage a higher ethical & spiritual meaning: as where "divers measures" are forbidden (Dt 25:14-16); and in Proverbs where "lying lips" (12:22), "the proud in heart" (16:5) are said to be an abomination in God's sight. last prophet and sage are found to unite in declaring that any sacrifice, however free from physical blemish, if offered without purity of motive, is an abomination:(Isa 1:13; compare Jer 7:10). "The sacrifice of the wicked" are an abomination (see Prov 15:8; 21:27; 28:9).
Another word rendered "abomination" in the KJV is sheqets or shiqquts. It expresses a somewhat less degree of religious aversion than [to`ebhah]. In Dt 14:3, we have the command, "Thou shalt not eat any abominable thing," as introductory to the laws prohibiting the use of the unclean animals & the word there used is [to`ebhah]. But in Lev 11:10-13,20,23,41,42; Isa 66:17 & in Ezek 8:10 sheqets is the word applied to the prohibited animals. Then sheqets is often used together with to`ebhah of that which should be held as detestable, for instance, of idols & idolatrous practices (see Dt 29:17; Hos 9:10; Jer 4:1; 13:27; 16:18; Ezek 11:18-21; 20:7,8). It is used exactly as [to`ebhah] is used as applied to Milcom, god of Ammonites, which is spoken of as the detestable thing sheqets of Ammonites (1 Ki 11:5).
The other word used to express a kindred idea of abhorrence & translated "abomination" in the KJV is piggul; but it is used in the Hebrew Bible only of sacrificial flesh that has become putrid, tainted (see Lev 7:18; 19:7; Ezek 4:14; Isa 65:4). Compare lechem megho'al, "the loaths ome bread" (from ga'al, "to loathe") Mal 1:7. A chief interest in the subject for Christians grows out of the use of the term in the expression "abomination of desolation" (Mt 24:15 and Mk 13:14), which see.

Bibliography Information
Orr, James, M.A., D.D. General Editor. "Definition for 'ABOMINATION'". "International Standard Bible Encyclopedia". bible-history.com - ISBE; 1915.

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“Jesus=only way into Heaven”

Since: Nov 12

saved by grace through faith

#16 Mar 13, 2013
Rainbow Kid wrote:
<quoted text>
Hi Romans ;o))
Hi Rainbow Kid, I take it this thread is in multiple places.

When are you going to stop mocking and twisting the Word of God and come to Jesus? The ONLY way into Heaven is through Jesus.

John 14:6- Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Revelation 3:20- Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
heartandmind

Moline, IL

#17 Mar 13, 2013
Romans Road wrote:
<quoted text>
^ Churches of Satan go against the Holy Bible. But the Word of God warned us about these latter days:
2 Timothy 4:3-4
3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
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Jude 1:18- How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
but if you want to base vil rights upon religious rights, then you're denying the churches and denominations on that list their right to decide to welcome homosexuals as congregants and clergy or to perform same sex marriages.

you cannot have it both ways.

“Jesus=only way into Heaven”

Since: Nov 12

saved by grace through faith

#18 Mar 13, 2013
heartandmind wrote:
<quoted text>
but if you want to base vil rights upon religious rights, then you're denying the churches and denominations on that list their right to decide to welcome homosexuals as congregants and clergy or to perform same sex marriages.
you cannot have it both ways.
Any church that goes against the Word of God is NOT Christian. They are being led by Satan, their so-called "pastors" are straight from the pit of Hell. I want NO part of the church of Satan.

Satan's church may go against the Word of God, but REAL Christian churches will NOT.

“KNOW JESUS and KNOW PEACE”

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#19 Mar 13, 2013
Romans Road wrote:
<quoted text>
Any church that goes against the Word of God is NOT Christian. They are being led by Satan, their so-called "pastors" are straight from the pit of Hell. I want NO part of the church of Satan.
Satan's church may go against the Word of God, but REAL Christian churches will NOT.
Brilliant Said!
heartandmind

Moline, IL

#20 Mar 13, 2013
Romans Road wrote:
<quoted text>
Any church that goes against the Word of God is NOT Christian. They are being led by Satan, their so-called "pastors" are straight from the pit of Hell. I want NO part of the church of Satan.
Satan's church may go against the Word of God, but REAL Christian churches will NOT.
well, that's just your opinion, your interpretation.

i want no church that you participate in, either.

that's the choices we have here in america. if you don't like those choices, then perhaps you'd be happier in a more theocratically based society and government. i hear that iran doesn't have any gays and puts them to death when they find them. you might be pretty happy there, given those conditions and religious rules. they might have an issue with you if you choose to display a cross outside of your home, though.

i wish you happy travels and the best of luck in your endeavors in finding a place that co-incides with your religious interpretations.

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