Transgender job seekers face uphill battle

Feb 22, 2013 Full story: Local10.com 17

Rebecca Juro, 50, has been unemployed for the last four years and she can't help but think it's because she's transgender.

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Since: Dec 08

Toronto, ON, Canada

#1 Feb 22, 2013
So do obese people, plain women, and anyone else who does not what dumb HR folks thing their companies' employees should look like.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#2 Feb 22, 2013
She's quite a candidate for an emergency makeover.

Since: Aug 11

Santa Cruz, CA

#3 Feb 22, 2013
JohnInToronto wrote:
So do obese people, plain women, and anyone else who does not what dumb HR folks thing their companies' employees should look like.
True which proves sexism is alive and well. How about men who can't play golf or fit into the stereotypical Jock image? How about people who are too old? We give lip service to non-discrimination but the fact remains that people always form tribes.

Since: Aug 11

Santa Cruz, CA

#4 Feb 22, 2013
snyper wrote:
She's quite a candidate for an emergency makeover.
Suppose Mick Jagger applied for a job as a supermodel? I doubt he would have any more success. Many trans people go from white male privileged to becoming as second class as one can get which is the life of an ugly woman. As a society, we really need to rethink such negative stereotypes. Many older women experiences the same things. Superficial beauty often fades with age.
WhoKnows

Lake Zurich, IL

#5 Feb 22, 2013
I haven't interviewed her yet, but even if she did I may not hire her anyway. There is a lot of great talent out there seeking jobs. I know several people without jobs or under-employed that are not LGBT, fat, or ugly or old...just unemployed. A Job/career that was attainable due to your highest experience level are being filled by those with higher levels of experience and these people as well are under-employed. The biggest factor right now as with the company I work, we can get younger cheaper raw talent to do the job and without all the baggage that comes from a tenured employee. They are eager to learn and willing to work any hours available. Companies realize that those with jobs are most likely not going to leave so they over work them by giving them a work load that 3 people used to do. Why do you think companies are seeing record profits? I know because this is how my company has operated since 2009 since more than half the staff was let go. We hide it by calling it streamlining, or less red tape. And we as consumers demand it, by refusing to pay more for services and products. How many mail carriers will loose their job due to the public refusing to pay more for a stamp to send mail across the country that should cost at least a dollar. But it's ok throw 83 cents on a single k cup of coffee because we are too lazy to make a full pot....too lazy to wash the coffee pot and filter bin...What jobs are k cups creating? I remember paying $15-$16 for a pizza from the national chains a few years ago, now it's $10!? How does that happen? I'm sure the ingredients cost more now. It's the labor cuts, that how. Then we wonder why the service is poor. We are why. Companies are just like us, if we can get it cheaper regardless of consequences we will do it. Just my 2 cents

Since: Dec 08

Toronto, ON, Canada

#6 Feb 22, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
<quoted text>
True which proves sexism is alive and well. How about men who can't play golf or fit into the stereotypical Jock image? How about people who are too old? We give lip service to non-discrimination but the fact remains that people always form tribes.
I just read an article today about how the Silicon Valley pretends to be a strict meritocracy but really is not.

Since: Aug 11

Santa Cruz, CA

#9 Feb 22, 2013
WhoKnows wrote:
I haven't interviewed her yet, but even if she did I may not hire her anyway. There is a lot of great talent out there seeking jobs. I know several people without jobs or under-employed that are not LGBT, fat, or ugly or old...just unemployed. A Job/career that was attainable due to your highest experience level are being filled by those with higher levels of experience and these people as well are under-employed. The biggest factor right now as with the company I work, we can get younger cheaper raw talent to do the job and without all the baggage that comes from a tenured employee. They are eager to learn and willing to work any hours available. Companies realize that those with jobs are most likely not going to leave so they over work them by giving them a work load that 3 people used to do. Why do you think companies are seeing record profits? I know because this is how my company has operated since 2009 since more than half the staff was let go. We hide it by calling it streamlining, or less red tape. And we as consumers demand it, by refusing to pay more for services and products. How many mail carriers will loose their job due to the public refusing to pay more for a stamp to send mail across the country that should cost at least a dollar. But it's ok throw 83 cents on a single k cup of coffee because we are too lazy to make a full pot....too lazy to wash the coffee pot and filter bin...What jobs are k cups creating? I remember paying $15-$16 for a pizza from the national chains a few years ago, now it's $10!? How does that happen? I'm sure the ingredients cost more now. It's the labor cuts, that how. Then we wonder why the service is poor. We are why. Companies are just like us, if we can get it cheaper regardless of consequences we will do it. Just my 2 cents
I applied for a job at Home Depot. I needed to make at least $20 per hour. Do you think they ever called me? ROTFLMAO

Since: Aug 11

Santa Cruz, CA

#10 Feb 22, 2013
JohnInToronto wrote:
<quoted text>
I just read an article today about how the Silicon Valley pretends to be a strict meritocracy but really is not.
I doubt anyone is. They just go through the motions to avoid lawsuits. For example, a company may advertise equal opportunity and post a job opening. Often, the requirements are tailored to a certain individual who applies and gets the job based upon qualifications. Sure they took applications from a wider range of individuals and did interviews but nothing changes the fact they knew who would get that job prior to posting it.
Sammy

Gloucester, UK

#11 Feb 22, 2013
I have a solution. STAY THE GENDER YOU WERE BORN!
NoQ

Alexandria, VA

#12 Feb 22, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
<quoted text>I applied for a job at Home Depot. I needed to make at least $20 per hour. Do you think they ever called me? ROTFLMAO
They wouldn't hire you if you told them you'd work for free cleaning bathroom stalls, cause they wouldn't be able to get you to leave. When you get free meals, you tend to want to stay.
LMFAO

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#13 Feb 22, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
<quoted text>
Suppose Mick Jagger applied for a job as a supermodel? I doubt he would have any more success. Many trans people go from white male privileged to becoming as second class as one can get which is the life of an ugly woman. As a society, we really need to rethink such negative stereotypes. Many older women experiences the same things. Superficial beauty often fades with age.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#14 Feb 22, 2013
Sammy wrote:
I have a solution. STAY THE GENDER YOU WERE BORN!
They are, sweetie. They're just upgrading the plumbing to match.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#15 Feb 22, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
<quoted text>
I doubt anyone is. They just go through the motions to avoid lawsuits. For example, a company may advertise equal opportunity and post a job opening. Often, the requirements are tailored to a certain individual who applies and gets the job based upon qualifications. Sure they took applications from a wider range of individuals and did interviews but nothing changes the fact they knew who would get that job prior to posting it.
Worse.

http://www.npr.org/2013/02/19/172373123/older...

http://www.npr.org/2013/02/21/172566332/follo...

Since: Aug 11

Santa Cruz, CA

#16 Feb 22, 2013
Sammy wrote:
I have a solution. STAY THE GENDER YOU WERE BORN!
Why? What if that doesn't work for you?

Since: Aug 11

Santa Cruz, CA

#17 Feb 22, 2013
NoQ wrote:
<quoted text>
They wouldn't hire you if you told them you'd work for free cleaning bathroom stalls, cause they wouldn't be able to get you to leave. When you get free meals, you tend to want to stay.
LMFAO
Only NoIQ would come up this this. I'll bet it really strained the little grey cells right?

Since: Aug 11

Santa Cruz, CA

#18 Feb 22, 2013

Since: Dec 08

Toronto, ON, Canada

#19 Feb 24, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
<quoted text>
I doubt anyone is. They just go through the motions to avoid lawsuits. For example, a company may advertise equal opportunity and post a job opening. Often, the requirements are tailored to a certain individual who applies and gets the job based upon qualifications. Sure they took applications from a wider range of individuals and did interviews but nothing changes the fact they knew who would get that job prior to posting it.
Actually, I don't really have an issue with that practice. It is usually due to legal requirements that prevent a simple promotion. It is when the organization really DOES need someone from outside but does not view candidate rationally that I object.

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