Same-sex marriage: an issue of rights?

Same-sex marriage: an issue of rights?

There are 372 comments on the HeraldNet story from Oct 7, 2012, titled Same-sex marriage: an issue of rights?. In it, HeraldNet reports that:

In a voice freighted with emotion, Gov. Chris Gregoire embraced gay marriage in January saying it is a civil right and denying it to same-sex couples is a vestige of discrimination that needs to be eliminated in the state and nation.

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the light has come

Danville, IL

#131 Oct 10, 2012
eJohn wrote:
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COMPLETELY different issues, Poodle. When a parent "objects to" a child's behaviour, it's generally because their child is about to run into the street or stick a fork into an electrical outlet. It's a parent's responsibility to keep a child safe from dangers.
There's no danger nor any harm in gay couples marrying and it's no one's responsibility to keep them from marrying. You imagine there is because you've been taught to be uncomfortable with the concept, but there's no harm or danger involved and, therefore, no reason to oppose it. Especially where civil marriage is concerned.
And where did you ever get the idea that something being legal will force people to accept it?? Labor unions are legal, does that mean I'm forced to quit my non-union job and find one that's covered by a union?? No. And you won't be forced to enter into a same-sex marriage once that's legal everywhere, either.
You're more than welcome to continue to fear and loathe anyone you want. But you're NOT welcome to try to force that fear and loathing onto anyone else. Keep it to yourself, just like I keep my marriage to myself.
the homosexual lifestyle is an objectionable behavior across this country and the world. The government are made up of people who the people elect. Every state where this issue is presented to the people they have rejected it. If SSM was accepted, we would not be talking about it. As long as the gay community try to force their lifestyle on the people, there will be people who will stand in opposition.
the light has come

Danville, IL

#132 Oct 10, 2012
IrishmanLA wrote:
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So you're saying (and encouraging, as well) that I, a gay man, should enter into a sham marriage with a woman to make you happy, instead of a loving relationship with someone who is a man and the center of my world, all because you find it "icky"?
Currently 54% of the population finds same-sex marriage to be perfectly fine. So if it's "not accepted" why are so many people starting to accept it?
People grow and evolve and learn to understand that what they are personally not involved with does not complicate their lives unless they choose to let it. My relationship should not make ANY change in your life, if you are a mature adult. Only children get upset when someone plays with the wrong person.
Life is about making choices. People that make the wrong choice suffer the consequences. I do not take a lot of stock in polls and surveys. There is a lot of unknowns how the info was presented and gathered.

Since: Oct 12

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#133 Oct 10, 2012
The precipice of the case doesn't matter. It was intended to point out that marriage has been a part of American life since America was founded.

Since: Oct 12

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#134 Oct 10, 2012
It also doesn't matter if you don't approve. The issue of gay marriage is absolutely about rights. As stated, there are 1041 federal rights levied to straight married couples, but kept from gay married couples because it isn't recognized by the federal government. The fact that this was ever put to vote is disgusting and it makes me glad to live in Canada. The majority should never be allowed to vote on the rights of a minority, at least that's the way democracy is supposed to work.

Since: Oct 12

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#135 Oct 10, 2012
The constitution holds that all men are created equal, that they should all be treated with equality under the law. By banning gay marriage, those 1041 federal rights are denied to otherwise productive members of society.
Frank

Clarkston, MI

#136 Oct 10, 2012
Gays need to be EXTRICATED, ELIMINATED, ASPHYXIATED, and EXTERMINATED!!!!!

Vote for ME and I will RID the world of HOMOSEXUALITY!!!!!

Odinist

“Viking.”

Since: Aug 12

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#137 Oct 10, 2012
Frank wrote:
Gays need to be EXTRICATED, ELIMINATED, ASPHYXIATED, and EXTERMINATED!!!!!
Vote for ME and I will RID the world of HOMOSEXUALITY!!!!!
That would mean killing yourself, Franny.

“NOW will ya give me”

Since: Sep 12

some fightin' room ? !

#138 Oct 10, 2012
Frank wrote:
Gays need to be EXTRICATED, ELIMINATED, ASPHYXIATED, and EXTERMINATED!!!!!
Vote for ME and I will RID the world of HOMOSEXUALITY!!!!!
Just when you thoght Detroit, the MOST DANGEROUS city in America, after The Obamaniac's Chicago, couldn't sink any lower, along comes this slug to prove me wrong.......
Frank

Clarkston, MI

#139 Oct 10, 2012
Odinist wrote:
That would mean killing yourself, Franny.
Vote for me and I will rid the world of gays and racists like you!
Qwerty26

Lewes, DE

#140 Oct 10, 2012
the light has come wrote:
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the homosexual lifestyle is an objectionable behavior across this country and the world. The government are made up of people who the people elect. Every state where this issue is presented to the people they have rejected it. If SSM was accepted, we would not be talking about it. As long as the gay community try to force their lifestyle on the people, there will be people who will stand in opposition.
Fortunately for ALL of us, we live in a constitutional democracy. This means that in general, majority rules, but the Constitution trumps majority rule when the majority becomes tyrannical. 32 good examples of the majority ruling tyrannically have occurred in states that have made marriage equality illegal. At some point, the Constitutional principles of equality will kick in and those states will have to abandon their democratically (tyrannically) passed laws. Just like miscegenation. Just like women voting.

Odinist

“Viking.”

Since: Aug 12

Location hidden

#141 Oct 10, 2012
Frank wrote:
<quoted text>Vote for me and I will rid the world of gays and racists like you!
Ok. Just donĀ“t be alarmed when Leopard 2 knocks down your trashcan home.
the light has come

Danville, IL

#142 Oct 10, 2012
Qwerty26 wrote:
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Fortunately for ALL of us, we live in a constitutional democracy. This means that in general, majority rules, but the Constitution trumps majority rule when the majority becomes tyrannical. 32 good examples of the majority ruling tyrannically have occurred in states that have made marriage equality illegal. At some point, the Constitutional principles of equality will kick in and those states will have to abandon their democratically (tyrannically) passed laws. Just like miscegenation. Just like women voting.
This is not a democracy but a republic. Since the future is not written we deal with what is before us. What people think will happen do not always happen like the expect.

Since: Apr 11

Panorama City, CA

#143 Oct 10, 2012
the light has come wrote:
<quoted text>Some people think if you object to peoples behavior you hate them. parents d not hate their children when they see something they object to. If you think that the 1st ammendment is going to protect you from speaking hate. Threatened the president and you will wind up in jail. Do a little research and you see time after time your free speech is taken away from you. This fight for SSM is not what is not what the gay community really want. it is about being accepted as normal. Society by majority reject the homosexual lifestyle. So the gay community are trying to use the legal system to gain acceptance as normal. When laws a re made it effect all people including religious people.
Everybody knows free speech isn't absolute. There's the classic, "You can't yell 'fire' in a crowded theater" example. What's your point?
This is a simple equal rights issue. Guess you hate the most basic of American values, equal protection under the law.
Junior E

United States

#144 Oct 10, 2012
"Same-sex marriage: an issue of rights?"
No individual or group of individuals has the right to cause harm to society.

Since: Apr 11

Panorama City, CA

#145 Oct 10, 2012
the light has come wrote:
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the homosexual lifestyle is an objectionable behavior across this country and the world. The government are made up of people who the people elect. Every state where this issue is presented to the people they have rejected it. If SSM was accepted, we would not be talking about it. As long as the gay community try to force their lifestyle on the people, there will be people who will stand in opposition.
You fundies just parrot the same crap.
What exactly is the "homosexual lifestyle" and how is anybody trying to force it on people? Oooops, you're going to have to think.

Since: Apr 11

Panorama City, CA

#146 Oct 10, 2012
Frank wrote:
Gays need to be EXTRICATED, ELIMINATED, ASPHYXIATED, and EXTERMINATED!!!!!
Vote for ME and I will RID the world of HOMOSEXUALITY!!!!!
Ever notice that complete idiots think using the caps lock key and multiple punctuation marks makes up for their inability to reason?
Junior E

United States

#147 Oct 10, 2012
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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Ever notice that complete idiots think using the caps lock key and multiple punctuation marks makes up for their inability to reason?
Gays do not have to resort to such things to demonstrate their inability to reason.
the light has come

Danville, IL

#148 Oct 10, 2012
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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Everybody knows free speech isn't absolute. There's the classic, "You can't yell 'fire' in a crowded theater" example. What's your point?
This is a simple equal rights issue. Guess you hate the most basic of American values, equal protection under the law.
It was you who did not agree with me about hate speech. Now you are back peddling. As far the laws in this country the saw cut both ways. Some people defy the laws because they disagree with them.

Since: Apr 11

Panorama City, CA

#149 Oct 10, 2012
Junior E wrote:
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Gays do not have to resort to such things to demonstrate their inability to reason.
You're actually claiming gay people don't have the ability to reason? Oh, well...

“WAY TO GO”

Since: Mar 11

IRELAND

#150 Oct 10, 2012
Junior E wrote:
"Same-sex marriage: an issue of rights?"
No individual or group of individuals has the right to cause harm to society.
Sorry, but no harm is being caused to society by allowing American Citizens the right to marry regardless of their sexual orientation......and those Same-Sex Couples who are legally married, should have the same rights, benefits and privileges from the federal government that any other legal marriage is allowed!!!

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