Gay sailor's death called a ' hate killing'

[deeter1013]

Same-sex proposal needs study
Benefits provided by contractors could have economic impacts. Robert Garcia, the recently elected councilman for Long Beach's 1st District, is proposing that the city of Long Beach limit some of its dealings with contractors to companies that provide the same benefits for straight and same-sex couples.

straighties better start treating us as equals or we will be taking away some business from you to even things out as seen here!

[Robert Laity]

deeter1013 wrote:

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when a police chief says until the toxicology reports are in that he is not ruling out homicide...is NOT the same thing as saying they are investigating it as a homocide.

It has gone further than that! Multiple drugs in his body prescribed by doctors in the commission of said crime,leading to Jackson's death.

[Robert Laity]

deeter1013 wrote:

Same-sex proposal needs study
Benefits provided by contractors could have economic impacts. Robert Garcia, the recently elected councilman for Long Beach's 1st District, is proposing that the city of Long Beach limit some of its dealings with contractors to companies that provide the same benefits for straight and same-sex couples.
straighties better start treating us as equals or we will be taking away some business from you to even things out as seen here!

Be nice deeter.That would be a policy of reverse discrimination of straights. The firemen in NY won in SCOTUS on the premise of reverse discrimination.

[deeter1013]

Robert Laity wrote:

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Be nice deeter.That would be a policy of reverse discrimination of straights. The firemen in NY won in SCOTUS on the premise of reverse discrimination.

how is it discrimination?..you cannot FORCE anyone to do business with your company if they do not want to...

I can hire who I want, shop where I want...and NOT HIRE who I don't want!!!

are you saying that they can NOT hire me because Im gay then sue me because then I dont want to hire them?...lol
it don't work like that.....

[Robert Laity]

deeter1013 wrote:

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how is it discrimination?..you cannot FORCE anyone to do business with your company if they do not want to...
I can hire who I want, shop where I want...and NOT HIRE who I don't want!!!
are you saying that they can NOT hire me because Im gay then sue me because then I dont want to hire them?...lol
it don't work like that.....

I said that straight businesses can not purposely be excluded from bids to give preference to gay friendly ones.

I know that federal agencies do not allow discrimination based on sexual orientation. I do not believe EEOC law includes that in the private sector!

[deeter1013]

Robert Laity wrote:

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I said that straight businesses can not purposely be excluded from bids to give preference to gay friendly ones.
I know that federal agencies do not allow discrimination based on sexual orientation. I do not believe EEOC law includes that in the private sector!

you are very wrong there.
The entire city of SanFrancisco has had a policy for over ten years now wherein ANY company doing any business with the city MUST provide equal benefits to its gay employees.
and they have worked out just fine there.

and any company that would try to fight it would lose in another city, because they would have to prove that the sole reason they did not get hired was because of gay equality.... a person or city has the right to hire or not hire anyone it feels is best for the job...and if they feel a company that treated all its employees equally would be a better fit..then theres nothing you can do about that. Period.

you can google this information regarding sanfrancisco enforcing this.
Not ONE company has ever been hired to do work in the city that does not provide equal benefits FOR every employee.

[Robert Laity]

deeter1013 wrote:

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you are very wrong there.
The entire city of SanFrancisco has had a policy for over ten years now wherein ANY company doing any business with the city MUST provide equal benefits to its gay employees.
and they have worked out just fine there.
and any company that would try to fight it would lose in another city, because they would have to prove that the sole reason they did not get hired was because of gay equality.... a person or city has the right to hire or not hire anyone it feels is best for the job...and if they feel a company that treated all its employees equally would be a better fit..then theres nothing you can do about that. Period.
you can google this information regarding sanfrancisco enforcing this.
Not ONE company has ever been hired to do work in the city that does not provide equal benefits FOR every employee.

Thank you for apprising me of this illegal activity. I will have to file a Qui Tam discrimination complaint with the California Human Rights Commission immediately>

[Robert Laity]

deeter1013 wrote:

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you are very wrong there.
The entire city of SanFrancisco has had a policy for over ten years now wherein ANY company doing any business with the city MUST provide equal benefits to its gay employees.
and they have worked out just fine there.
and any company that would try to fight it would lose in another city, because they would have to prove that the sole reason they did not get hired was because of gay equality.... a person or city has the right to hire or not hire anyone it feels is best for the job...and if they feel a company that treated all its employees equally would be a better fit..then theres nothing you can do about that. Period.
you can google this information regarding sanfrancisco enforcing this.
Not ONE company has ever been hired to do work in the city that does not provide equal benefits FOR every employee.

Single gays have always had the "same benefits". Government bids must not be based on discriminatory practices.

[deeter1013]

Robert Laity wrote:

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Thank you for apprising me of this illegal activity. I will have to file a Qui Tam discrimination complaint with the California Human Rights Commission immediately>

file away dumbass...it has never won in a challenge for over 10 years...LOL
and you are wrong about the law.....
but at least as long as you are wasting your time for a cause you will be laughed at for, then you won't be in here posting your ignorance!!

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

[Robert Laity]

deeter1013 wrote:

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file away dumbass...it has never won in a challenge for over 10 years...LOL
and you are wrong about the law.....
but at least as long as you are wasting your time for a cause you will be laughed at for, then you won't be in here posting your ignorance!!
LOLOLOLOLOLOL

San Francisco is a wierd city,in any event. I can multi-task.

[Curteese]

deeter1013 wrote:

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third time you failed to give an answer...your act is now transparent to all...
you cannot answer the question because their is no answer..
you fail...again....

These guys must attend the same school of avoidance. They NEVER answer directly, and if they do respond it is either biblebabble or cryptic double speak. They have no answers, none that they have not already had pre-digested and cut and pasted for them by the wizard of oz behind the curtain.

[OldSwiftBoater]

deeter1013 wrote:

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file away dumbass...it has never won in a challenge for over 10 years...LOL
and you are wrong about the law.....
but at least as long as you are wasting your time for a cause you will be laughed at for, then you won't be in here posting your ignorance!!
LOLOLOLOLOLOL

Hey deeter, I see you've met our "spooky ol bob" He thinks abortionists make soup out of aborted fetuses and then gobbles it down! LOL, he is quite unbalanced and delusional to say the least! Just ignore the little attention freak! They let him out of his padded cell a couple of hours a day to use the internet, and then it's a heavy dose of thorazine!

[raised in redlands]

Hangman wrote:

<quoted text>You have failed in life, theres no hope for you!

Wow I guess I better save you a seat right next to me.
Make sure you bring air conditioning with you your going to need it.

[Wally]

What is the lastest on the investigation. I can't find anything about it anymore. It must not have been a hate crime after all.

[OkieDarren]

Wally wrote:

What is the lastest on the investigation. I can't find anything about it anymore. It must not have been a hate crime after all.

So, unless it's in the paper every day, even if nothing's happened in the case, you get to pretend it wasn't a hate crime?

[marlena wilton manors]

Sorry my bad. Plain is correct.Its..It's.

[Wally]

OkieDarren wrote:

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So, unless it's in the paper every day, even if nothing's happened in the case, you get to pretend it wasn't a hate crime?

Well was it a hate crime or not? Is the investigation finished? Its not even in the so-called gay blogs. I even googled August Provost and nothing current came up. I guess people don't care anymore, or it turned out that it wasn't a hate crime--one of the two.

[Bobo]

You're an idiot. When they start letting men & women shower, sleep, etc. together, THEN they can let homosexuals do the same with heterosexuals.

Raychel Roo wrote:

<quoted text>What you're saying is illogical because it's not a situation where one heterosexual is showering with a group of homosexuals. It's the other way around. Homosexuals are less than 10% of the population, perhaps only 2%, therefore they will always be a minority in these situations i.e. outnumbered in the showers. And, being that homosexuals are already in the military, they are already showering with groups of heterosexuals. As they have been in gym locker rooms and dorm showers, etc. from the beginning of time.

[Tizzle]

Bobo wrote:

You're an idiot. When they start letting men & women shower, sleep, etc. together, THEN they can let homosexuals do the same with heterosexuals.
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Kettle meet pot! Homosexuals ARE already showering with heterosexuals in the military. The kicker: they just don't know it. Also, I had a roommate who was heterosexual... he was unaware, though I'm sure he suspected, of my homosexuality. But from your post it would appear that you actually have no insight into dormitory life... military style. There are plenty of men "sleeping" with women in official housing quarters... it just isn't organized that way. I know that the military does take away a lot of privacy when a person becomes a soldier but there are some things even it cannot control.

[Daniel P from Long Island]

Why does nobody talk about how there were apparently either very little, or no problems at all, BEFORE this "gay ban" was instituted ? It was only instituted in the WWII-era.

There was an interesting show on The History Channel a couple of months ago about sex during the Civil War. It was a really god show. It mentioned, but did not dwell on, the fact that some officers and some enlisted personnel, on bot sides of the conflict, patronized male prostitutes. In fact the shown mentioned that for the first time in American history, in Jacksonville I believe it said, that prostitution was legalized.

And both armies suffered problems with battle-readiness because V.D. was so rampant. Hence, the Union Army set up an effective system for quarantining and sucessfully treating, both military personnel and the male and female prostitutes that were infected with various strains of V.D.

I woudl also point out, that General von Steuben, for whom the Steuben Day Parade in New York is named for, was very important and effective leader for George Washington in the Revolutionary War. Congress was so grateful for his efforts in helping win our Independence, that they granted General von Steuben a lifetime pension after the Revolutionary War ended. General von Steuben was openly gay, and lived with one or more boyfriends, amongst the troops, during the war.