Amendment on the Way? Anti-Gay Lawmak...

Amendment on the Way? Anti-Gay Lawmaker Takes Fresh Aim at Same Sex Families

There are 133 comments on the EDGE story from Jun 28, 2013, titled Amendment on the Way? Anti-Gay Lawmaker Takes Fresh Aim at Same Sex Families. In it, EDGE reports that:

Conservatives may have lost a fight, but they don't think the battle over marriage is done.

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“Building Better Worlds”

Since: May 13

Europa

#96 Jun 30, 2013
DNF wrote:
<quoted text>I believe it has passed several REPUBLICAN controlled committees in the House when it was introduced last year, and the previous years.
No, it didn't. That's not the way the procedure works for a U.S. Constitutional Amendment.

Briefly:

1. The Amendment has to be written, debated, and approved by simple majority vote by the House Judiciary Committee's "Subcommittee on the Constitution and Civil Justice". If it doesn't pass the subcommittee by a simple majority vote, the amendment is killed and cannot be introduced for another year.

2. If approved by the subcommittee, it goes to the Judiciary Committee where it is once again and debated, and voted upon. If it doesn't pass the Judiciary Committee by a simple majority vote, the amendment is killed and cannot be introduced for another year. If approved by a simple majority, it then goes to the full House, where it is once again debated and voted upon.

3. The House must pass the proposed Constitutional Amendment with a minimum 2/3 vote. If it fails to get the approval of at LEAST 2/3 of the House, the amendment is killed and cannot be introduced for another year. If approved by at least 2/3 vote, then it goes to the Senate, where the basic procedure I outlined above, is repeated in the Senate, i.e. subcommittee, committee, Senate.

4. If the Senate approves of the proposed Constitutional Amendment, once again by at least a 2/3 vote, then it is sent to the legislatures of all 50 states.

5. AT LEAST 3/4 of the 99 state legislatures must approve of the proposed Constitutional Amendment by a simple majority vote in each state legislative body.

So it's a long difficult process, as it was designed to be. The last time a U.S. Constitutional Amendment was ratified was in 1992.

I do NOT think that this silly proposed Constitutional Amendment has ANY chance of being approved by at least 2/3 of the Hose and Senate, and being ratified by at least 3/4 of the states. AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN.

“Building Better Worlds”

Since: May 13

Europa

#97 Jun 30, 2013
correction: Paragraph 5. should read: 5. AT LEAST 3/4 of the 99 state legislature BODIES must approve of the proposed Constitutional Amendment by a simple majority vote in each state legislative body.

“A JOURNEY OF A THOUSAND MILES”

Since: Aug 08

MUST BEGIN WITH A SINGLE STEP!

#100 Jun 30, 2013
Fabulous Rainbow Kid wrote:
<quoted text>
Here is an interesting twist on Boehner's foibles; from Barney Frank:
http://tv.msnbc.com/2013/06/27/barney-frank-t...
Thank Rainbow Kid.......sorry, I'm late in responding.....been out of town all weekend!!!
The Troll Stopper

Chesapeake, OH

#103 Jun 30, 2013
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>You aren't particularly good at denial sweetie, you're coming across as childish and petulant. The reality that you will go down screaming against is that the facts are on our side. There are state laws which permit a legal adult to marry a minor and have consensual sex with them, even though they are years away from being legally permitted to consent to sex period. There are even laws which disregard the fact that you had already had illegal sex with said minor and to marry them WITHOUT even bothering with said minor's parent's consent, you usually need to knock them up or were knocked up by them. There may be all sorts of hoops you have to jump through to get there designed to discourage it, but the law still allows you a way of making it.
Go spread your Queer lies where you might pass them off as true. I know better. Queers tend to leave out facts and circumstances that lead up to an event. You Queers wouldn't tell the full truth it it got stuck up your a.ss like a big d!ck

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#105 Jun 30, 2013
The Troll Stopper wrote:
<quoted text>
I like the way you lying Queers twist and manipulate the truth. There's exemptions to every rule under certain circumstances but we're talking about any normal 14 yr old or younger, cannot with their own consent marry or have legal sex with a legal adult. You're embarrassing yourself Queer. Get the facts before opening your d!cklicker.
yet that is totally traditional marriage, dude! if you want to defend traditional marriage, once they hit puberty, their father sells them off like cattle.

what a great tradition you espouse!
The Troll Stopper

Chesapeake, OH

#106 Jun 30, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>yet that is totally traditional marriage, dude! if you want to defend traditional marriage, once they hit puberty, their father sells them off like cattle.

what a great tradition you espouse!
Do you [email protected] ever get tired of lying and manipulating the facts??

“Building Better Worlds”

Since: May 13

Europa

#107 Jun 30, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>yet that is totally traditional marriage, dude! if you want to defend traditional marriage, once they hit puberty, their father sells them off like cattle.
what a great tradition you espouse!
"biblical marriage" is polygamy where the wife is the property of the husband. Some Jews are still polygamous, and the bible certainly does'nt forbid it.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#108 Jun 30, 2013
The Troll Stopper wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you [email protected] ever get tired of lying and manipulating the facts??
what facts did I manipulate? you just aren't man enough to admit your entire argument is trashed.

you do not support traditional marriage. you support this teensy sliver of the timeline of marriage that you were told was the best, most likely by your cult leaders that we have proven to you lied to you over and over again...

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#109 Jun 30, 2013
Europa Report wrote:
<quoted text>
"biblical marriage" is polygamy where the wife is the property of the husband. Some Jews are still polygamous, and the bible certainly does'nt forbid it.
hell, it was still the mid to late 1800's that in the US women lost the right to inherit wealth or property when they entered into marriage, it went to their husbands, as they pretty much owned the women.

I think NY was the first state ot change that law.

this is the traditional marriage these freaks want to keep alive...

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#110 Jun 30, 2013
Europa Report wrote:
correction: Paragraph 5. should read: 5. AT LEAST 3/4 of the 99 state legislature BODIES must approve of the proposed Constitutional Amendment by a simple majority vote in each state legislative body.
Actually, the process can also be initiated by the State Legislatures as well. It's not happened so far.

Some States require that such a vote MUST be a referendum to it's Citizenry.

“Building Better Worlds”

Since: May 13

Europa

#111 Jun 30, 2013
snyper wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually, the process can also be initiated by the State Legislatures as well. It's not happened so far.
Some States require that such a vote MUST be a referendum to it's Citizenry.
yeah, i kno. i figured i got deep enough into the weeds for most people here tho, so I dint want to expound any further on the subject.

there's not going to be any U.S. constitutional amendments in the near future. It hasn't happened since 1992. and that took 200 years.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#113 Jun 30, 2013
Europa Report wrote:
<quoted text>
yeah, i kno. i figured i got deep enough into the weeds for most people here tho, so I dint want to expound any further on the subject.
there's not going to be any U.S. constitutional amendments in the near future. It hasn't happened since 1992. and that took 200 years.
There have been others that have taken much less time. It's all about controlling narrative in relation to the underlying zeitgeist.

We've got a real nasty fight coming.

“Building Better Worlds”

Since: May 13

Europa

#114 Jun 30, 2013
snyper wrote:
<quoted text>
There have been others that have taken much less time. It's all about controlling narrative in relation to the underlying zeitgeist.
We've got a real nasty fight coming.
I don't think so. The tide has turned and we have won !

:)

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#115 Jun 30, 2013
Europa Report wrote:
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I don't think so. The tide has turned and we have won !
:)
Tortoise: Not yet, Mr. Hare. Not even close.

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#116 Jul 1, 2013
The Troll Stopper wrote:
<quoted text>
You make it sound like, in the above states children can make the choice to marry at those ages. Even though it's still not right, all marriages have to either have parental consent, be court approved or both. You made a mistake on Massachusetts. There anyone under 18 has to have a court order to apply for a license. A lot of these laws could be like a lot of laws, left on the books from way back without adjusting them. Just look up stupid laws and you will find some crazy laws you absolutely know they can't enforce. At least I wouldn't think so.
Those laws ARE stupid - I can't imagine a 13-14 year old being mature enough to legally marry. It boggles the mind.

But those laws still exist, and they were not put in place by gay folks, and they are not kept on the books by gay folks.
The Troll Stopper

Chesapeake, OH

#117 Jul 1, 2013
Quest wrote:
<quoted text>Those laws ARE stupid - I can't imagine a 13-14 year old being mature enough to legally marry. It boggles the mind.

But those laws still exist, and they were not put in place by gay folks, and they are not kept on the books by gay folks.
I'm not saying they were put on the books by gay folks, at least, not that we know of. But if you've followed the Kaitlyn Hunt saga on her, MOST gays defended and condoned what she was doing. Maybe because she's a lesbian, or maybe because they see nothing wrong with a legal adult having sex with very young kids. Either way, that was their stand. What was acceptable 100 or so years ago is not accepted today. You gays should know this as well as anyone.

“Equality First”

Since: Jan 09

Location hidden

#118 Jul 1, 2013
The Troll Stopper wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm not saying they were put on the books by gay folks, at least, not that we know of. But if you've followed the Kaitlyn Hunt saga on her, MOST gays defended and condoned what she was doing. Maybe because she's a lesbian, or maybe because they see nothing wrong with a legal adult having sex with very young kids. Either way, that was their stand. What was acceptable 100 or so years ago is not accepted today. You gays should know this as well as anyone.
MOST gays defended her? Really? Can you provide the numbers of not only how many defended her, but of how many of us there are? I'll wait.
The Troll Stopper

Chesapeake, OH

#119 Jul 1, 2013
RalphB wrote:
<quoted text>MOST gays defended her? Really? Can you provide the numbers of not only how many defended her, but of how many of us there are? I'll wait.
Queer, we're not in court. If you've been following the threads, you know what I've said is true. You Queers lie so much, you deny anything you get caught up in. I don't even have to name names. You know who they are.

Since: Jan 08

Thailand

#120 Jul 1, 2013
Poor, deluded fools. The gop continues to dig their grave. Please continue.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#121 Jul 1, 2013
The Troll Stopper wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm not saying they were put on the books by gay folks, at least, not that we know of. But if you've followed the Kaitlyn Hunt saga on her, MOST gays defended and condoned what she was doing. Maybe because she's a lesbian, or maybe because they see nothing wrong with a legal adult having sex with very young kids. Either way, that was their stand. What was acceptable 100 or so years ago is not accepted today. You gays should know this as well as anyone.
I haven't defended Ms. Hunt.

I have ATTACKED the lack of a rational Romeo&Juliet Law in Florida, and the apparent hypocrisy of the prosecution.

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