Finland's Parliament Debates Gay Marr...

Finland's Parliament Debates Gay Marriage Bill

There are 29 comments on the EDGE story from Feb 20, 2014, titled Finland's Parliament Debates Gay Marriage Bill. In it, EDGE reports that:

Gay Star News reports , although the legislation has been defeated in the past, this time around, politicians are discussing the bill on the will of the people; what is known as a "citizen's initiative."

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Since: Mar 09

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#1 Feb 20, 2014
The Calvinists and Lutherans are going to breach birth reindeer.
hi hi

Lancaster, PA

#2 Feb 21, 2014
I laugh about this every.single. time. Where's the difficulty? Debate what? Consider what? What's the problem? Where's the fire?

People are unbelievable.

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#3 Feb 21, 2014
hi hi wrote:
I laugh about this every.single. time. Where's the difficulty? Debate what? Consider what? What's the problem? Where's the fire?
People are unbelievable.
Finland exists in a weird mental zone between Lutheran/Calvinist and Russian Orthodox worldviews, and really good science and engineering; between Saami and city.

The oldest continuously transmitted oral folk tales of humanity come from there, as well as TelNet and Linux.

Finland has always fascinated me.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#4 Feb 21, 2014
Finland will join the rest of the Scandinavian countries allowing same-sex couples to marry.

On another note, recent polling in Ireland shows 75% support marriage equality ahead of their pending national referendum next year.

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#5 Feb 21, 2014
WeTheSheeple wrote:
Finland will join the rest of the Scandinavian countries allowing same-sex couples to marry.
On another note, recent polling in Ireland shows 75% support marriage equality ahead of their pending national referendum next year.
The polling isn't accurate.

We're on top of it.
Campy

Las Vegas, NV

#6 Feb 21, 2014
snyper wrote:
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The polling isn't accurate.
We're on top of it.
Yet you can't find Finland on a map.
Reuben

Culver City, CA

#7 Feb 21, 2014
hi hi wrote:
I laugh about this every.single. time. Where's the difficulty? Debate what? Consider what? What's the problem? Where's the fire?
People are unbelievable.
When it comes to a government forcing a perversion on a society don't you think it should at least be brought up for debate?

Since: Dec 08

Toronto, ON, Canada

#8 Feb 21, 2014
WeTheSheeple wrote:
Finland will join the rest of the Scandinavian countries allowing same-sex couples to marry.
On another note, recent polling in Ireland shows 75% support marriage equality ahead of their pending national referendum next year.
It is not Scandinavia, just Nordic. Finnish is Finno-Ugric not Indo-European and their cultural traditions differ from Scandinavia.
david traversa

Argentina

#9 Feb 21, 2014
Reuben wrote:
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When it comes to a government forcing a perversion on a society don't you think it should at least be brought up for debate?
Not so . The Finnish government gave supporters six months to gather 50,000 signatures and in twenty four hours they had more than 100,000 .. That's not exactly forcing , is it ?

Since: Mar 09

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#10 Feb 21, 2014
Campy wrote:
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Yet you can't find Finland on a map.
Then what did I fly over last year on my way to Arkangelsk? Madagascar?
Omar

Culver City, CA

#11 Feb 21, 2014
snyper wrote:
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Then what did I fly over last year on my way to Arkangelsk? Madagascar?
Who knows where you fly in your dreams.
hi hi

Lancaster, PA

#12 Feb 22, 2014
snyper wrote:
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Finland exists in a weird mental zone between Lutheran/Calvinist and Russian Orthodox worldviews, and really good science and engineering; between Saami and city.
The oldest continuously transmitted oral folk tales of humanity come from there, as well as TelNet and Linux.
Finland has always fascinated me.
This response is fun, and thank you.
hi hi

Lancaster, PA

#13 Feb 22, 2014
Reuben wrote:
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When it comes to a government forcing a perversion on a society don't you think it should at least be brought up for debate?
Let's use your logic:

Who gave you permission to place this post here?

If you deem that a perversion, I classify this identically. If this was your god-given right, that is theirs.

Simple.

“Equality for ALL”

Since: Jul 10

Massachusetts

#14 Feb 22, 2014
JohnInToronto wrote:
It is not Scandinavia, just Nordic. Finnish is Finno-Ugric not Indo-European and their cultural traditions differ from Scandinavia.
Someone else on this side of the world that knows the difference.

I love Finland and hope they get this passed soon.

“Equality for ALL”

Since: Jul 10

Massachusetts

#15 Feb 22, 2014
Reuben wrote:
When it comes to a government forcing a perversion on a society don't you think it should at least be brought up for debate?
It was a citizen petition that foced the legislature to even take up the issue. It's the people leading wanting the government to act on their behalf.

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#16 Feb 22, 2014
Omar wrote:
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Who knows where you fly in your dreams.
I do, and what I fly IN.

A friend of mine filmed this a couple of months ago in his.



You should get one. It's a fantastic go-buggy.

We also have this, but it's far too expensive to use these days.

http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Campy

Las Vegas, NV

#17 Feb 22, 2014
snyper wrote:
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I do, and what I fly IN.
A friend of mine filmed this a couple of months ago in his.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =tav3feEW61sXX
You should get one. It's a fantastic go-buggy.
We also have this, but it's far too expensive to use these days.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
The Viper Jet would be OK if your name is Walter Mitty and you own an oil well.
The General Electric CJ610/J85 will burn kerosene faster than you could throw it with a bucket.

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#18 Feb 23, 2014
Campy wrote:
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The Viper Jet would be OK if your name is Walter Mitty and you own an oil well.
The General Electric CJ610/J85 will burn kerosene faster than you could throw it with a bucket.
It does. Even with the added tip tanks, its range is limited. Fun though.

The stock Arrow-Copter only carries about 20 gals, but we modify ours for 30gals. We dropped dry weight by chucking or replacing a lot of other stock features. The hydraulic pre-rotator with it's added pulleys and belt system and electric actuator, is an unnecessary weight, so we replaced it with the much lighter Wiley system. That and a bunch more like it, AND swapping-out the guzzling Rotax 914 engine for the sequentially direct electronic fuel injection D-Motor out of Belgium (40lbs lighter for the same hp but with more torque at cruise rpms), replacing stock props for racing props, and fuel gph drops significantly ... approx 4gph @ 120kn cruise at 8500asl.

We are considering combining these and a number of other improvements, and manufacturing our own for domestic use. I think our biggest improvements will be in the keel and mast, the actual load bearing structures. They use aircraft stainless. Snazzy. But their mast only has a torsional strength of 1370nm, whereas a carbon-kevlar-dyneema composite mast yields 4800nm before failure ... and that at 1/5th the weight for the member.

The lower weight helps not just fuel economy, but longevity of the rotor blades, rotorhead and mast in general.

Tight turns and some turbulence can generate (momentarily) 3-5g. Even a far lighter gyro, like the Calidus, can place 20tons of strain on the rotorblades. Combined with the standard vibrations and oscillations experienced by the rotors, a balanced weight reduction is a grand improvement in terms of safety and maintenance.

"Walter Mitty" yourself, Crosspatch!
Campy

Las Vegas, NV

#19 Feb 23, 2014
snyper wrote:
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It does. Even with the added tip tanks, its range is limited. Fun though.
The stock Arrow-Copter only carries about 20 gals, but we modify ours for 30gals. We dropped dry weight by chucking or replacing a lot of other stock features. The hydraulic pre-rotator with it's added pulleys and belt system and electric actuator, is an unnecessary weight, so we replaced it with the much lighter Wiley system. That and a bunch more like it, AND swapping-out the guzzling Rotax 914 engine for the sequentially direct electronic fuel injection D-Motor out of Belgium (40lbs lighter for the same hp but with more torque at cruise rpms), replacing stock props for racing props, and fuel gph drops significantly ... approx 4gph @ 120kn cruise at 8500asl.
We are considering combining these and a number of other improvements, and manufacturing our own for domestic use. I think our biggest improvements will be in the keel and mast, the actual load bearing structures. They use aircraft stainless. Snazzy. But their mast only has a torsional strength of 1370nm, whereas a carbon-kevlar-dyneema composite mast yields 4800nm before failure ... and that at 1/5th the weight for the member.
The lower weight helps not just fuel economy, but longevity of the rotor blades, rotorhead and mast in general.
Tight turns and some turbulence can generate (momentarily) 3-5g. Even a far lighter gyro, like the Calidus, can place 20tons of strain on the rotorblades. Combined with the standard vibrations and oscillations experienced by the rotors, a balanced weight reduction is a grand improvement in terms of safety and maintenance.
"Walter Mitty" yourself, Crosspatch!
[email protected] is very impressive. Though at 120kt in that machine, I would think that you would be nibbling at the onset of retreating blade stall. Interesting project. For safety, you should incorporate mods incrementally, one at a time. Have fun with it!

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#20 Feb 23, 2014
Campy wrote:
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[email protected] is very impressive. Though at 120kt in that machine, I would think that you would be nibbling at the onset of retreating blade stall. Interesting project. For safety, you should incorporate mods incrementally, one at a time. Have fun with it!
We fended that off a little ways in three ways: static flybar governor, increasing the chord near the rotor root, and plumbing our exhaust up the mast and directing it upward through the retreating side of the rotor ... but just barely. We have something else to counteract some of that: the winglets. We've considered adding small controllable canards (Gripen style) for a bit more lift, and to permanently remove any serious threat of bunt-over. Not really a problem with the length of the buggy and the big horizontal stab. Reducing rotor loading even a bit more can help further.

One thing we are going to try very soon will be a flap near the rotor root, probably about 22% of the chord and perhaps 1/5 of the length. It works in the scaled-down model very nicely.

Thanks for the well-wishing. A real change for gaviators.

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