Police ban gay pride march in Serbia that Christian Orthodox church opposed

In this Sunday, Oct. 10, 2010 file photo, Serbian riot police gather to protect a gay pride parade as it moves along a street in Belgrade, Serbia.

[sram vas bilo svrbi]

Serbia is a fasco-communist police state.

[nas dragi azdejkovic umro]

fasco communist hahahahaahaha

Does something like that even exist dumb albanian retard?

Your education, IQ and way of expression on forums are equal to those in countries like micronesia

[Banovic]

the albanian from canada is angry because Serbs dont like "gay pride" parades

hehehehehehehehehehe

[sram vas bilo svrbi]

Stop talking to yourself :)

[PointofReason]

This isn't about being pro-gay or anti-gay.
It is about freedom of speech.

[Franco]

Way to go Serbia !!!

[Karavashk]

sram vas bilo svrbi wrote:

Serbia is a fasco-communist police state.

What you aren't upset that they just banned you from marching on the streets, expressing your homosexuality, now are you. Anyway the state has nothing personal against you. Maybe Pristina or Western Europe will be a better destination, or better yet try one of those muslim middle-eastern states I'm sure they'll love it. I think Serbs would rather live in a police state than a failed state.

[Serbonazis]

Karavashk wrote:

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What you aren't upset that they just banned you from marching on the streets, expressing your homosexuality, now are you. Anyway the state has nothing personal against you. Maybe Pristina or Western Europe will be a better destination, or better yet try one of those muslim middle-eastern states I'm sure they'll love it. I think Serbs would rather live in a police state than a failed state.

What about the gay Orthodox nishops of Serbia and Bosnia and Herzegovina?

[Serbonazis]

should be bishops and not nishops. Typographical error.

[Rose_NoHo]

What? Christians are violent hateful knuckle draggers?
Such a shock.

[Karolcik]

Serbonazis wrote:

should be bishops and not nishops. Typographical error.

The only error is in your brain and you being born in general. You as a sp....ozoid should've been c..m pissed on some tree instead of being ejaculated in some poor woman's pinky

[PointofReason]

Karavashk wrote:

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What you aren't upset that they just banned you from marching on the streets, expressing your homosexuality, now are you. Anyway the state has nothing personal against you. Maybe Pristina or Western Europe will be a better destination, or better yet try one of those muslim middle-eastern states I'm sure they'll love it. I think Serbs would rather live in a police state than a failed state.

How would you like it if Serbia banned you from marching on the streets expressing your homophobia instead?

If they can ban one, they can ban the other, and yes I know some Europeans countries have done that and I disagree with that too.

I don't care if pedophiles are marching in the streets demanding rights to molest children. I would vehemently disagree that they should have those rights they are protesting for, but as Voltaire said:

"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."

Freedom of speech is Freedom of speech. People should be allowed to say what they want even if it's absurd. If someone wants to protest in favor of legalizing murder or that everyone ought to be forced by law to stand upside on their heads every sunday, or what ever strange and bizarre political belief a person has they should have the right to speak and protest for that belief.

And at the end of the day we all have the freedom to ignore them or to rebut their points with our own speech if we feel it is worth it. Government is force. And imposing force against speech just makes it look like the government doesn't really have a leg to stand on and so is resorting to repression because they're afraid the opposition will persuade the public. Are you really that insecure about your beliefs that you feel you have to suppress the opposition?

[Karolcik]

poofties are free to express their sick way of life, but in private. Don't go on the streets provoking people and Church as well.

[Just Wrong]

PointofReason wrote:

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How would you like it if Serbia banned you from marching on the streets expressing your homophobia instead?
If they can ban one, they can ban the other, and yes I know some Europeans countries have done that and I disagree with that too.
I don't care if pedophiles are marching in the streets demanding rights to molest children. I would vehemently disagree that they should have those rights they are protesting for, but as Voltaire said:
"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."
Freedom of speech is Freedom of speech. People should be allowed to say what they want even if it's absurd. If someone wants to protest in favor of legalizing murder or that everyone ought to be forced by law to stand upside on their heads every sunday, or what ever strange and bizarre political belief a person has they should have the right to speak and protest for that belief.
And at the end of the day we all have the freedom to ignore them or to rebut their points with our own speech if we feel it is worth it. Government is force. And imposing force against speech just makes it look like the government doesn't really have a leg to stand on and so is resorting to repression because they're afraid the opposition will persuade the public. Are you really that insecure about your beliefs that you feel you have to suppress the opposition?

U poof

[Karavashk]

PointofReason wrote:

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How would you like it if Serbia banned you from marching on the streets expressing your homophobia instead?
If they can ban one, they can ban the other, and yes I know some Europeans countries have done that and I disagree with that too.
I don't care if pedophiles are marching in the streets demanding rights to molest children. I would vehemently disagree that they should have those rights they are protesting for, but as Voltaire said:
"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."
Freedom of speech is Freedom of speech. People should be allowed to say what they want even if it's absurd. If someone wants to protest in favor of legalizing murder or that everyone ought to be forced by law to stand upside on their heads every sunday, or what ever strange and bizarre political belief a person has they should have the right to speak and protest for that belief.
And at the end of the day we all have the freedom to ignore them or to rebut their points with our own speech if we feel it is worth it. Government is force. And imposing force against speech just makes it look like the government doesn't really have a leg to stand on and so is resorting to repression because they're afraid the opposition will persuade the public. Are you really that insecure about your beliefs that you feel you have to suppress the opposition?

Whether I am a homophobe or not is my business, its not something that I should go marching on the street about, similarly so is homosexuality if people are homosexuals, that doesn't mean they have to express it to the whole world. They don't have to march on the streets shouting "I am Gay, Gay is me, Proud Gay am I, you should be one too".

And I love what you say about total freedom of speech whatever the person may say, but even this type of freedom of speech does not exist in western countries. Try saying something against Jews in public, march down the street while shouting "Kill the Jews" or "Jews suck" or something less offensive "Jews run our country" (Not endorsing the comments, just using them as an example) you'll be labeled as anti-Semitist and thrown in jail, no freedom of speech there. Thats why in my opinion there are responsibilities to every right and freedom, there are some things which are better not to be said because they offend people (like the movie insulting Muhammad). I believe in a state there should be a level of government control and restriction of freedom, because total freedom and lack of any control leads to anarchy which leads to a failed state like Somalia which has absolutely no government control.

[Serbonazis]

Karavashk wrote:

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Whether I am a homophobe or not is my business, its not something that I should go marching on the street about, similarly so is homosexuality if people are homosexuals, that doesn't mean they have to express it to the whole world. They don't have to march on the streets shouting "I am Gay, Gay is me, Proud Gay am I, you should be one too".
And I love what you say about total freedom of speech whatever the person may say, but even this type of freedom of speech does not exist in western countries. Try saying something against Jews in public, march down the street while shouting "Kill the Jews" or "Jews suck" or something less offensive "Jews run our country" (Not endorsing the comments, just using them as an example) you'll be labeled as anti-Semitist and thrown in jail, no freedom of speech there. Thats why in my opinion there are responsibilities to every right and freedom, there are some things which are better not to be said because they offend people (like the movie insulting Muhammad). I believe in a state there should be a level of government control and restriction of freedom, because total freedom and lack of any control leads to anarchy which leads to a failed state like Somalia which has absolutely no government control.

No children in Gayservia

[Rose_NoHo]

Just Wrong wrote:

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U poof

Oh, good come back...

[Rose_NoHo]

Karavashk wrote:

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Whether I am a homophobe or not is my business, its not something that I should go marching on the street about, similarly so is homosexuality if people are homosexuals, that doesn't mean they have to express it to the whole world. They don't have to march on the streets shouting "I am Gay, Gay is me, Proud Gay am I, you should be one too".

You don't have to do much besides eat and breathe.

Karavashk wrote:

And I love what you say about total freedom of speech whatever the person may say, but even this type of freedom of speech does not exist in western countries. Try saying something against Jews in public, march down the street while shouting "Kill the Jews" or "Jews suck" or something less offensive "Jews run our country" (Not endorsing the comments, just using them as an example) you'll be labeled as anti-Semitist and thrown in jail, no freedom of speech there.

Not in the US.

Karavashk wrote:

Thats why in my opinion there are responsibilities to every right and freedom, there are some things which are better not to be said because they offend people (like the movie insulting Muhammad). I believe in a state there should be a level of government control and restriction of freedom, because total freedom and lack of any control leads to anarchy which leads to a failed state like Somalia which has absolutely no government control.

I really doubt gay pride parades will lead to total anarchy.

[Karavashk]

Rose_NoHo wrote:

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You don't have to do much besides eat and breathe.
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Not in the US.
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I really doubt gay pride parades will lead to total anarchy.

Not just the US but any western country, even if you criticize an individual who is a Jew, and it is obvious that the criticism had nothing to do with him being a Jew you will still be labeled as anti-semitic, some freedom of speech.

Gay parades won't lead to total anarchy, but the my comment was a response to someone who basically said that if a government exercises control over the state it is oppression, and I responded by telling him that there has to be a level of government control and restriction of freedom or else it will lead to total anarchy.

[Rose_NoHo]

Karavashk wrote:

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Not just the US but any western country, even if you criticize an individual who is a Jew, and it is obvious that the criticism had nothing to do with him being a Jew you will still be labeled as anti-semitic, some freedom of speech.

Freedom of speech goes both ways. People can say things against Jewish people, and other people can call them anti-semitic.

Karavashk wrote:

Gay parades won't lead to total anarchy, but the my comment was a response to someone who basically said that if a government exercises control over the state it is oppression, and I responded by telling him that there has to be a level of government control and restriction of freedom or else it will lead to total anarchy.

OK