Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 | Posted by: Topix | Full story: www.cnn.com

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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<quoted text>I never said it wasn't. My point was about how people use religion to show it's violence when as you agreed with the angry atheist, it's the person.
Religion has been the cause of more murder and destruction throughout history than any other cause.

Followed by Bigotry ( often in conjunction with religion )

Followed by geographical nationalism ( often in conjunction with religion and bigotry )

The 3 plagues of mankind

There is a reason people are less and less tolerant of any of the three

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Atheists don't believe in "nothing". And they certainly don't say they believe in "nothing". They simply don't believe in God.
Exactly, it's an anti-God religion.
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<quoted text>Exactly, it's an anti-God religion.
It takes the same amount of faith to be sure there is no God as it does to be sure there is a God. Big D is among the very faithful. Me, not so much.
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<quoted text>Exactly, it's an anti-God religion.
Wrong, you have a faith, I do not

I donít think there are any gods, but that is a mere belief, nothing special.

There are a lot of things I merely believe, but I would never put a belief over facts

That is not a religion, putting beliefs in front of actual facts is a religion.
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Is your number 9 fired with wood, coal or fuel oil, does it have an afterburner?
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Wrong, you have a faith, I do not
I donít think there are any gods, but that is a mere belief, nothing special.
There are a lot of things I merely believe, but I would never put a belief over facts
That is not a religion, putting beliefs in front of actual facts is a religion.
It takes the same amount of faith to be sure there is no God as it does to be sure there is a God. You are among the very faithful. Me, not so much.
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Is your number 9 fired with wood, coal or fuel oil, does it have an afterburner?
Top shelf whiskey!
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It takes the same amount of faith to be sure there is no God as it does to be sure there is a God. You are among the very faithful. Me, not so much.
You donít understand the words enough to be in this conversation.

Faith, is belief over fact, that is not what I have

I donít have a faith, I have a mere belief,

The reason you faithful believers cannot comprehend is you elevate belief ahead of fact, you turn your beliefs into a faith.

I donít have a faith, and belief is just a puny thing not supported by facts and easily overturned by facts.

I believe I will have coffee tomorrow morning, but if I donít my entire world is not overturned

Calling that a religion is just stupid

When a person thinks the world is only 4,000 or 6,000 years old regardless of the mountains of facts showing otherwise, that is a belief blinded to the level of a faith, the putting of a desire ahead of actual facts.

There is currently no reason, no evidence to support any of the billions of gods man has and does believe in.

But calling that is religion is disingenuous, you are trying to drag facts down to the level of a mere belief.
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You donít understand the words enough to be in this conversation.
Faith, is belief over fact, that is not what I have
I donít have a faith, I have a mere belief,
The reason you faithful believers cannot comprehend is you elevate belief ahead of fact, you turn your beliefs into a faith.
I donít have a faith, and belief is just a puny thing not supported by facts and easily overturned by facts.
I believe I will have coffee tomorrow morning, but if I donít my entire world is not overturned
Calling that a religion is just stupid
When a person thinks the world is only 4,000 or 6,000 years old regardless of the mountains of facts showing otherwise, that is a belief blinded to the level of a faith, the putting of a desire ahead of actual facts.
There is currently no reason, no evidence to support any of the billions of gods man has and does believe in.
But calling that is religion is disingenuous, you are trying to drag facts down to the level of a mere belief.
You have a lot of faith in your beliefs. Don't tell me that you do not in a long rambling idiotic post. You are arguing against yourself.
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You donít understand the words enough to be in this conversation.
Big D can't explain it to me because I don't understand. Priceless.
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I donít have a faith, I have a mere belief...
Pure semantics...!

"It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is...."
-Bill Clinton
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Just no one is insulting each other!
Is that so bad?
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You have a lot of faith in your beliefs. Don't tell me that you do not in a long rambling idiotic post. You are arguing against yourself.
Not at all, I might have tea instead, I believe I might have coffee, but I like tea as well.

You just donít understand the words enough to be in this or any conversation.

Facts are not a matter of belief, I would never ever let a mere belief get in the way of my understanding a fact.
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...You just donít understand the words enough to be in this or any conversation.
The moronic Big D said, in our conversation.

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Pure semantics...!
"It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is...."
-Bill Clinton
Best post of the morning. Right on!

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Wrong, you have a faith, I do not
I donít think there are any gods, but that is a mere belief, nothing special.
There are a lot of things I merely believe, but I would never put a belief over facts
That is not a religion, putting beliefs in front of actual facts is a religion.
I don't have enough faith to be an atheist. it would be quite a leap of faith to believe that nothing put it there. And it would be far more reasonable to believe that something must have put it there.
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<quoted text>Best post of the morning. Right on!
You want so desperately to try to reduce facts to the level of a puny belief. But you cannot drag what is real down to your level no matter how hard you try.

That has never worked, but you keep trying. That is why the ignorant refer to the non-existence of a faith, as a faith.
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<quoted text>I don't have enough faith to be an atheist. it would be quite a leap of faith to believe that nothing put it there. And it would be far more reasonable to believe that something must have put it there.
You have that backwards, it is faith that stops you, an atheist has no faith, just a minor belief.

It is no big deal, we donít have atheist temples were we worship, we donít bow down to some book and call it holy writ.

No you are not reasonable, faith is opposed to knowledge, you cannot have one, where the other exists

Faith by its own definition is a lack of knowledge.

"Belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence."

Like Santa, or Peter Pan, or God, or Gods, or astrology, or Volcano worship
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You want so desperately ...bla bla bla
Big D. Always the drama princess!
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You have that backwards, it is faith that stops you, an atheist has no faith, just a minor belief.
It is no big deal, we donít have atheist temples were we worship, we donít bow down to some book and call it holy writ.
No you are not reasonable, faith is opposed to knowledge, you cannot have one, where the other exists
Faith by its own definition is a lack of knowledge.
"Belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence."
Like Santa, or Peter Pan, or God, or Gods, or astrology, or Volcano worship
Or Mighty D!

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