Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 | Posted by: Topix | Full story: www.cnn.com

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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It isn’t being fundamentally re-defined, we are just making it more inclusive.
The thousands upon thousands of same sex couples legally married in the US today certainly did not re-define my marriage in any way at all.
Removing the gender part of "a man and a woman" most certainly is redefining marriage. And quite radically.

But it's OK! Call it what it is. Be honest for once. You'll never bring anyone over to your side by lying to them.
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Since mocking people is all you have you must sit home every Friday night, alone, by yourself.
Just because you do, doesn't mean anyone else does dummy.
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Big D wrote:
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No I am not expendable in my marriage, my wife is not expendable in our marriage, as a non-religious person I may be unfamiliar with your terms of people as “expendable” in a marrage.
What I am saying is I am married, and my wife and I have not had to redefine our marriage in any way at all because same sex couples could marry, furthermore the court cases have been lost twice now by the supporters of Prop 8 and one of the many reasons for the loss is because they could not find a single married couple whose marriage was harmed by same sex couples being able to marry
Not one
Why don’t you tell us.... in what way was your marriage harmed by same sex couples being able to marry?
Less government freebies to go around.

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Pietro Armando wrote:
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Actually a club for men and women, as husband and wives. You are not barred from the club. The membership is very simple.
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How so? Does any state require a statement or orientation prior to issuance of a marriage license?
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The point is not our "particular marriages", but marriage as a whole, a matter of public policy, a shared understanding of its purpose and function. By your reasoning, there'd be no reason to bar any consenting adult relationship. In which case what is the point, why license it at all.
1.) We are barred from marrying the person of our choice. You seem to have no problem with us shacking up out of wedlock. Many of us have long-term partners; much longer than straight people.

We want the rights and protections of marriage for our own needs. We are in no way attempting to redefine marriage. We only want legal status.

Your marriage would in no way be impacted.

2.) States have, by way of DOMA and other individual state constitutional amendment, have made it impossible for us to marry. So, yes, orientation is definitely a part of the marriage process.

3.) You guys are the ones who came up with marriage licenses. You guys are the ones who put together a whole set of protections and rights ONLY provided to legally married couples. And now you piss and moan because other couples want those rights and protections.

How petty! How childish!

One day, this issue will be over and done with. The only reason people like you are on here now is because we're breathing down your necks. You know that there is NOTHING that you can do to stop same-sex marriage from happening in this country. All you can do is flock to sites like this and spit into the wind.

Mainstream Christians have lightened up their attitudes toward homosexuality and gay rights. So have republicans.

How much longer do you think this can drag out?

We're in the military; openly fighting for the country. Do you honestly think that Americans are going to deny a basic right to people who are willing to lay their lives on the line?

It's not a matter of "if", but a matter of "when".

Bank on it...

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I am not "you guys". I support SSM, simply because I see no COMPELLING arguments against it and I have gay friends that I want to be happy.
I am not afraid and most people against SSM are not afraid of it either, most of them just don't see the need for it. And they fear if we make marriage all inclusive, everyone will be married and it will mean nothing.
Does your version of "marriage equality" include everyone who wishes to be married? If no, who would you exclude? Why?
At this point, I would exclude you from marrying... If for no other reason than you are a dirt-bag.

You have been on here pretending to be a champion for all. It's such an obvious ruse.

You climb up Kimare's ass; cuddling up with him; cheering him on...

You lost any sense of believability to me long ago.
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As he ( and no one else ) has been able to answer that question, I think we can now dispense with the whole same sex marriage harms marriage argument.

No one can find a couple whose marriage was harmed by other people getting married. No one in this forum, and no one that the lawyers failing to defend Prop 8 could find either.

We can file that in the trash along with the whole procreation argument.
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At this point, I would exclude you from marrying... If for no other reason than you are a dirt-bag.
You have been on here pretending to be a champion for all. It's such an obvious ruse.
You climb up Kimare's ass; cuddling up with him; cheering him on...
You lost any sense of believability to me long ago.
Cool story. So much for tolerance and diversity eh, jackass?
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Big D wrote:
As he ( and no one else ) has been able to answer that question, I think we can now dispense with the whole same sex marriage harms marriage argument.
No one can find a couple whose marriage was harmed by other people getting married. No one in this forum, and no one that the lawyers failing to defend Prop 8 could find either.
We can file that in the trash along with the whole procreation argument.
No one has argued procreation is a requirement for marriage, that's your straw man. But if you want to argue that marriage has nothing to do with procreation you're going to lose. It's one of the main reasons the government is involved in marriage. And one of the main reasons marriage was invented.

If we remove all restrictions on marriage, Everyone will be married and marriage will mean nothing. Someone has to be excluded Big D, so who's it going to be? I say SSM, poly and incest marriage all deserve the same respect and consideration. Where do you draw the line Biggy?
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The neighborhood kids like the husband, but no wife? Wonder what happened to her remains?
More insider information to follow.

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Glad to see the GPD is doing crowd and traffic control.

Stand back, the Corner has brought out the dogs and shovels to start unearthing something buried in this houses backyard.

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Cool story. So much for tolerance and diversity eh, jackass?
Kimare comes on here and fans the flames of anti-homosexual sentiment; you say "Bravo!", and I'm supposed to sit back and celebrate your "tolerance" and "diversity"?

Gays aren't out to do away with heterosexuals. But people like Kimare would have us all "cured" or "fixed" if he could only figure out a way to do so.

His ideal world wouldn't have gays and lesbians on it.

When you start speaking out against his hatred and intolerance, we can talk. Until then, you're a dirt-bag in my eyes.

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No one has argued procreation is a requirement for marriage, that's your straw man. But if you want to argue that marriage has nothing to do with procreation you're going to lose. It's one of the main reasons the government is involved in marriage. And one of the main reasons marriage was invented.
If we remove all restrictions on marriage, Everyone will be married and marriage will mean nothing. Someone has to be excluded Big D, so who's it going to be? I say SSM, poly and incest marriage all deserve the same respect and consideration. Where do you draw the line Biggy?
Marriage was "invented"? By whom?
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Marriage was "invented"? By whom?
Hallmark.....many....many moons ago.
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Hallmark.....many....many moons ago.
Back in the days of slavery, and guilt or innocence via duel, burning at the stake, crucifixions and a lot of other ancient ideas
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Marriage was "invented"? By whom?
By people, who'd you think dummy? Dogs? Are you trying to tell me procreation has no relation to marriage?

Look Very Red, I fully support your right to equal protection. I don't disagree with you about SSM, I support it and you consider me a "dirt bag". I can only imagine how much you hate those against SSM.

They are not stupid, and they are not less worthy of respect than you. They are just wary of this tremendous social change and resent you marginalizing them over it. Way to win hearts and minds fruitloops!

So there we have it. I support marriage equality. Do you? For polygamy? For incest marriage? I suspect you are a hypocrite.
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Hallmark.....many....many moons ago.
I bet Hallmark supports SSM and any other new occasion to sell cards. Soon a full line of polygamy cards! One for 2 wives, one for three wives, two husbands, etc.

How about the marry your sister card? I'm sure they come up with some nice sentiment for that one!

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Back in the days of slavery, and guilt or innocence via duel, burning at the stake, crucifixions and a lot of other ancient ideas
Do u write this stuff yourself......or do u have help with the delusional elements. What do those have to do with defining marriage as a union of husband and wife?
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Back in the days of slavery, and guilt or innocence via duel, burning at the stake, crucifixions and a lot of other ancient ideas
I bet it was great great grandpa Big D who fixed all those things. Right?
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Kimare comes on here and fans the flames of anti-homosexual sentiment; you say "Bravo!", and I'm supposed to sit back and celebrate your "tolerance" and "diversity"?
Gays aren't out to do away with heterosexuals. But people like Kimare would have us all "cured" or "fixed" if he could only figure out a way to do so.
His ideal world wouldn't have gays and lesbians on it.
When you start speaking out against his hatred and intolerance, we can talk. Until then, you're a dirt-bag in my eyes.
For someone who won't talk you sure talk a lot! We can talk when you relax and if I feel like it spice cake.

Try and relax. Lighten up.
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Do u write this stuff yourself......or do u have help with the delusional elements. What do those have to do with defining marriage as a union of husband and wife?
I hope he writes that nonsense himself, please don't let there be more people as sappy as Biggy D.

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