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LYIN AYN RYAN

Anderson, CA

#163121 Oct 14, 2012
Mike DiRucci wrote:
<quoted text>
Doesn't matter. The point is if a third party or independent candidate gets a considerable number of votes, the other candidates take note and if they are wise, adopt some of their positions.
exactly!! wouldnt it be great if gary johnson got enough votes to do that.

medical marijuana(or decriminalization) is SO low on the totem pole of debate issues this season.
LYIN AYN RYAN

Anderson, CA

#163122 Oct 14, 2012
akpilot wrote:
<quoted text>
Most in the military didn't care, because they were thinking battle field- and I don't think anyone cares out there who you desire to hang with in your personal life as long as they are certain and confident that you have their back.
In the past people have "questioned" the orientation of another, either rationally or irrationally, and that could lead to personal choices about self segregation, such as choosing not to shower or change in that persons presence when possible. With open admission there is no question, and again, I do not think it is fair to label a person who has issue with those situations as "bigoted", "childish", or a "homophobe."
One would not find these feelings to be irrational if the same were stated in the case of male vs female.
wow I get your point already!!

If I have , lets hope HE has..
LYIN AYN RYAN

Anderson, CA

#163123 Oct 14, 2012
Mike DiRucci wrote:
<quoted text>
Lyin Ayn trivialized the horrendous acts of terror against our citizens. I called her on it. Simple. Why are you trying to make it into something else? Psychological profiles indeed.
Give it up Winston. Guessing a person's politics based on one sentence is dumb. Guessing someone with a girl's name is a girl is much less so. All he had to say is, I'm not a girl. Calling me stupid about it is a cheap diversion. It didn't work.
mike.....all the evidence should be in...

im not a gal.

you just thought I was because of "ayn" right?

or was it because i was so descriptive??
and smart!!

sorry about everything!!!

when are you going to get over it and make up??

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#163124 Oct 14, 2012
LYIN AYN RYAN wrote:
<quoted text>
wow I get your point already!!
If I have , lets hope HE has..
Let me help you:

[W]ow [,] I get your point already!

If I have[,] let[']s hope he has.

“Formerly Frankie Rizzo”

Since: Sep 12

Canarsie, NY

#163125 Oct 14, 2012
LYIN AYN RYAN wrote:
<quoted text>
exactly!! wouldnt it be great if gary johnson got enough votes to do that.
medical marijuana(or decriminalization) is SO low on the totem pole of debate issues this season.
What the hell is Obama doing with his war on people who use a legally doctor recommended medicine? Is this his philosophy? Or is it a political deal? Either way, it stinks.

“Formerly Frankie Rizzo”

Since: Sep 12

Canarsie, NY

#163126 Oct 14, 2012
LYIN AYN RYAN wrote:
<quoted text>
mike.....all the evidence should be in...
im not a gal.
you just thought I was because of "ayn" right?
or was it because i was so descriptive??
and smart!!
sorry about everything!!!
when are you going to get over it and make up??
No, it's because you act like a girl.

I hold a grudge toots, you're gonna have to work it, maybe someday I'll get over it but I doubt it. You'd be better off not trying. I won't be cutting you any slack. When you f*ck up, I'll be there.
TunaCharlie

Covina, CA

#163127 Oct 14, 2012
Weather's great.
LYIN AYN RYAN

Anderson, CA

#163128 Oct 14, 2012
Mike DiRucci wrote:
<quoted text>
What the hell is Obama doing with his war on people who use a legally doctor recommended medicine? Is this his philosophy? Or is it a political deal? Either way, it stinks.
no kidding huh??

ill bet president G.johnson would try to repeal the controled substance act of 1970...

Obama and his election year crack down...

remember when paul Ryan went to colorado early last month and was "pro-states" , deciding this issue, for like a day?? before he had to walk it back.

both candidates obvious suck on this issue...

luckily for me?? im not self interested enough to vote on that issue alone.....

it isnt REALLY part of the mainstrem american debate at the moment.

although at least half of all americans want to see pot decriminalized(which I think would be a smart first step, right?)

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#163129 Oct 14, 2012
My gosh!!! Four blondes in a row!
Please explain the specific similarity between denying blacks the right to serve and my reasoning for not mixing orientation attraction in a military setting.
So far, all you did was a partial quote with an ad homoan attack. I'll be real interested to see my hallucinations and non-rationality exposed Marsha.
Winston Smith wrote:
<quoted text>
You, just like the racists way back in history, are making cause and effect claims that have no rational basis. This is just the sort of steaming pile of BS that seems to occur with an alarming degree of frequency from the dogma kennel. Blacks will revolt if we let them in the military. The society will be turned on its head if we give women the vote. Blacks will be raping your white daughters if we recognize them as human beings. Gays will be converting your sons if we allow them out of the closet. That is the similarity. Why I need to point that out for you defies all logic.
Living paranoid? Why not just roll yourself up in bubble wrap & pull a blanket over your head? Tinfoil hats for everyone! You might not think 9/11 wuz an inside job. You may not be of the mind that Obama, the Muslim terrust, ain't no US citizen. But you're suckin' on the same teats.
We already know that there is a huge problem with heterosexual abuse and rape in the military. This is WITH the genders separated.

Now we add homosexuals NOT separated. And you assert there is no rational basis for concern.

Moreover, you equate my reasoning to blacks will revolt, woman will rule (they already did), blacks will rape whites(some do) and gays will convert boys (gay pedophiles do). I have asserted none of these things.

On the other hand, you asserted that butch lesbians dress and act like men to be 'comfortable'. Another denial of human mating behavior. The same behavior you deny would/is occurring in the military.

You are not in a bubble, you are simply gay twirling no matter how utterly idiotic it becomes.

Here is the simple reality. You claim that two gays serving in closer quarters than heterosexuals are allowed to will never be attracted. Really.

The Greeks recognized the implications of that situation and used it in limited measures. Placing two sexually bonded men in a life and death situation incurred extreme commitment to protect their lover. You deny that tendency in this situation. Why? Because you know it undermines the more important requirement of obedience to leadership in a modern army.

You are supporting the weakening of our military. That is point blank traitorous.
LYIN AYN RYAN

Anderson, CA

#163130 Oct 14, 2012
Mike DiRucci wrote:
<quoted text>
No, it's because you act like a girl.
I hold a grudge toots, you're gonna have to work it, maybe someday I'll get over it but I doubt it. You'd be better off not trying. I won't be cutting you any slack. When you f*ck up, I'll be there.
if wanting to debate is acting like a girl??

then the candidate are a bunch of girlie men, arnt they!!!

lighten up mike, it will do ya good...

so I roughed ya up a little on the foreign issues??

get over it and join the humans...

ps: im counting on you to be there to critique my left leaning rants!!

that is why you have "post comment button", in front of you to voice your veiws....

take a shot at it!

i promise, ill take it easy.
LYIN AYN RYAN

Anderson, CA

#163131 Oct 14, 2012
akpilot wrote:
<quoted text>
Let me help you:
[W]ow [,] I get your point already!
If I have[,] let[']s hope he has.
get over it.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#163132 Oct 14, 2012
LYIN AYN RYAN wrote:
<quoted text>
if wanting to debate is acting like a girl??
What you do could hardly be confused with debate.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#163133 Oct 14, 2012
LYIN AYN RYAN wrote:
<quoted text>
get over it.
Get educated, and I will.
LYIN AYN RYAN

Anderson, CA

#163134 Oct 14, 2012
KiMare wrote:
My gosh!!! Four blondes in a row!
Please explain the specific similarity between denying blacks the right to serve and my reasoning for not mixing orientation attraction in a military setting.
So far, all you did was a partial quote with an ad homoan attack. I'll be real interested to see my hallucinations and non-rationality exposed Marsha.
<quoted text>
We already know that there is a huge problem with heterosexual abuse and rape in the military. This is WITH the genders separated.
Now we add homosexuals NOT separated. And you assert there is no rational basis for concern.
Moreover, you equate my reasoning to blacks will revolt, woman will rule (they already did), blacks will rape whites(some do) and gays will convert boys (gay pedophiles do). I have asserted none of these things.
On the other hand, you asserted that butch lesbians dress and act like men to be 'comfortable'. Another denial of human mating behavior. The same behavior you deny would/is occurring in the military.
You are not in a bubble, you are simply gay twirling no matter how utterly idiotic it becomes.
Here is the simple reality. You claim that two gays serving in closer quarters than heterosexuals are allowed to will never be attracted. Really.
The Greeks recognized the implications of that situation and used it in limited measures. Placing two sexually bonded men in a life and death situation incurred extreme commitment to protect their lover. You deny that tendency in this situation. Why? Because you know it undermines the more important requirement of obedience to leadership in a modern army.
You are supporting the weakening of our military. That is point blank traitorous.
you were a little vague there??

were you promoting the spartan tradition of gay warriors??

mabey that is what we need....

in the mean time, I wouldnt worry about the repeal of dont ask dont tell......
ive been here on this thread, 3 days??

and no one has presented a link to a story chronicling any friction(about gays bunking with striaghts) in the 13 months since the ban was lifted...

mabey our soldiers are getting over it......

........so get OVER IT!!
LYIN AYN RYAN

Anderson, CA

#163135 Oct 14, 2012
KiMare wrote:
My gosh!!! Four blondes in a row!
Please explain the specific similarity between denying blacks the right to serve and my reasoning for not mixing orientation attraction in a military setting.
So far, all you did was a partial quote with an ad homoan attack. I'll be real interested to see my hallucinations and non-rationality exposed Marsha.
<quoted text>
We already know that there is a huge problem with heterosexual abuse and rape in the military. This is WITH the genders separated.
Now we add homosexuals NOT separated. And you assert there is no rational basis for concern.
Moreover, you equate my reasoning to blacks will revolt, woman will rule (they already did), blacks will rape whites(some do) and gays will convert boys (gay pedophiles do). I have asserted none of these things.
On the other hand, you asserted that butch lesbians dress and act like men to be 'comfortable'. Another denial of human mating behavior. The same behavior you deny would/is occurring in the military.
You are not in a bubble, you are simply gay twirling no matter how utterly idiotic it becomes.
Here is the simple reality. You claim that two gays serving in closer quarters than heterosexuals are allowed to will never be attracted. Really.
The Greeks recognized the implications of that situation and used it in limited measures. Placing two sexually bonded men in a life and death situation incurred extreme commitment to protect their lover. You deny that tendency in this situation. Why? Because you know it undermines the more important requirement of obedience to leadership in a modern army.
You are supporting the weakening of our military. That is point blank traitorous.
so now were traitors because we believe in equality??

btw, moon bat??

our national security rests with our technology and our diplomacy, not how gay our soldiers are......sheeeesh!!!!
Mona Lott

Brooklyn, NY

#163136 Oct 14, 2012
KiMare wrote:
My gosh!!! Four blondes in a row!
Please explain the specific similarity between denying blacks the right to serve and my reasoning for not mixing orientation attraction in a military setting.
So far, all you did was a partial quote with an ad homoan attack. I'll be real interested to see my hallucinations and non-rationality exposed Marsha.
<quoted text>
We already know that there is a huge problem with heterosexual abuse and rape in the military. This is WITH the genders separated.
Now we add homosexuals NOT separated. And you assert there is no rational basis for concern.
Moreover, you equate my reasoning to blacks will revolt, woman will rule (they already did), blacks will rape whites(some do) and gays will convert boys (gay pedophiles do). I have asserted none of these things.
On the other hand, you asserted that butch lesbians dress and act like men to be 'comfortable'. Another denial of human mating behavior. The same behavior you deny would/is occurring in the military.
You are not in a bubble, you are simply gay twirling no matter how utterly idiotic it becomes.
Here is the simple reality. You claim that two gays serving in closer quarters than heterosexuals are allowed to will never be attracted. Really.
The Greeks recognized the implications of that situation and used it in limited measures. Placing two sexually bonded men in a life and death situation incurred extreme commitment to protect their lover. You deny that tendency in this situation. Why? Because you know it undermines the more important requirement of obedience to leadership in a modern army.
You are supporting the weakening of our military. That is point blank traitorous.
Whatever your "reasoning" is, the Pentagon disagrees with you. I think I'll take their word over yours.
Shroud

Covina, CA

#163137 Oct 14, 2012
Still hiding out are ya?

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#163138 Oct 14, 2012
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Military/2012/01...

"The rate of violent sexual crime has increased 64 percent since 2006 according to the US Army report, which noted that “rape, sexual assault, and forcible sodomy were the most frequent violent sex crimes committed in 2011.”

"The study warns that reports of crimes such as forcible sodomy may increase among males in the coming year with the repeal of the law that barred openly gay troops from serving in the military.“Now victims may be more likely to report sexual offenses in the absence of the former Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell policy,” since troops no longer have to fear being removed from the military if it is discovered that they are gay."

"Even in the face of increasing rates of rape and aggravated assault in the military, Mr. Panetta emphasized that “we assume this is a very underreported crime,” and that incidents of sexual assault are roughly six times as high as reports of the crime. Last year there were 3,191 reports of sexual assault throughout the US military, but Panetta said that, realistically, the estimate for assaults “actually is closer to 19,000.”

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#163139 Oct 14, 2012
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/06/mili...

Note that male victims are 12%. GLBT represent 4% of population.

“Formerly Frankie Rizzo”

Since: Sep 12

Canarsie, NY

#163140 Oct 14, 2012
LYIN AYN RYAN wrote:
<quoted text>
if wanting to debate is acting like a girl??
then the candidate are a bunch of girlie men, arnt they!!!
lighten up mike, it will do ya good...
so I roughed ya up a little on the foreign issues??
get over it and join the humans...
ps: im counting on you to be there to critique my left leaning rants!!
that is why you have "post comment button", in front of you to voice your veiws....
take a shot at it!
i promise, ill take it easy.
No. You act like a girl. Not a girly man. A girl.

Stick a fork in yourself toots, you're done.

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