The Animals -- Love Letters Between C...

The Animals -- Love Letters Between Christopher Isherwood And Don Bachardy

There are 16 comments on the EDGE story from May 23, 2014, titled The Animals -- Love Letters Between Christopher Isherwood And Don Bachardy. In it, EDGE reports that:

In a period where gay marriage is both prevalent and inevitable, it's wonderful to look back on the relatively scant examples of long-term gay relationships throughout history, so that we may better understand how to nurture our own.

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Buford

Dallas, TX

#1 May 23, 2014
FTA:
This writer first became sexually involved with Bachardy’s brother, but his relationship with Bachardy would last for three decades despite the DIFFERENCE in THEIR AGES(Bachardy was MERELY a TEENAGER when they met and Isherwood was born in the early years of that century).
__________

KEEP GAY MEN AWAY FROM BOYS!!!

“Equality marches on! ”

Since: Apr 08

Location hidden

#2 May 23, 2014
Cut/Paste. Dry off your keyboard, wash your hands and morph into a new poster/location.
david traversa

Cordoba, Argentina

#3 May 23, 2014
Buford wrote:
FTA:
This writer first became sexually involved with Bachardy’s brother, but his relationship with Bachardy would last for three decades despite the DIFFERENCE in THEIR AGES(Bachardy was MERELY a TEENAGER when they met and Isherwood was born in the early years of that century).
__________
KEEP GAY MEN AWAY FROM BOYS!!!
Clumsy attempt at a sort of twisted logic .. Bacardy was honored indeed to be noticed by Isherwood at all ; their relationship lasted longer than the great majority of hetero marriages, the average of which is four years. and what has age to do with it ? These two weren't the common, run-of-the-mill citizen so why should they behave in an ordinary manner ? Genius ( and those who come under its shade ) makes its own laws and the world follows .
Christians In Name Only

Philadelphia, PA

#4 May 23, 2014
Buford wrote:
This writer first became sexually involved
You'll never be loved, but you'll never get laid, either.

Except the latter via toe tapping in an airport mensroom or in the bushes outside the reparative therapy facility.

Since: Feb 09

Location hidden

#5 May 24, 2014
Christians In Name Only wrote:
<quoted text>
You'll never be loved, but you'll never get laid, either.
Except the latter via toe tapping in an airport mensroom or in the bushes outside the reparative therapy facility.
What stupid things to say. Have you ever replied appropriately to anyone you disagree with? How do you know he will never be loved and get laid? Have you ever been loved? From all the hate you post I would say that it is very unlikely. Maybe being unloved is the cause of your over reacting hotheadedness.
Gremlin

Louisville, KY

#6 May 24, 2014
Buford wrote:
FTA:
This writer first became sexually involved with Bachardy’s brother, but his relationship with Bachardy would last for three decades despite the DIFFERENCE in THEIR AGES(Bachardy was MERELY a TEENAGER when they met and Isherwood was born in the early years of that century).
__________
KEEP GAY MEN AWAY FROM BOYS!!!
Keep straight men away from girls.
Reese

Boardman, OR

#7 May 24, 2014
david traversa wrote:
<quoted text>Clumsy attempt at a sort of twisted logic .. Bacardy was honored indeed to be noticed by Isherwood at all ; their relationship lasted longer than the great majority of hetero marriages, the average of which is four years. and what has age to do with it ? These two weren't the common, run-of-the-mill citizen so why should they behave in an ordinary manner ? Genius ( and those who come under its shade ) makes its own laws and the world follows .
Sounds to me like you're advocating man-boy sex.

Since: May 14

Location hidden

#8 May 24, 2014
Meeting does not mean sex.
Ted Haggard s Gospel Rub

Philadelphia, PA

#9 May 24, 2014
Reverend Alan wrote:
<quoted text>
What stupid things to say.
Hey sicko, that was "Buford" I was replying to. Like anyone would offer "Buford" the slightest bit of respect.

OTOH, you're just as deranged as he is....
david traversa

Cordoba, Argentina

#10 May 24, 2014
Reese wrote:
<quoted text>
Sounds to me like you're advocating man-boy sex.
I AM advocating man-boy sex .. Who would you prefer as a sex partner for your son, some smelly, ignorant, pimply-faced hoodlum or an intellectual, mature, cultured gentleman like Christopher Isherwood ? If you choose the first option it just goes to show trhe kind of rotten parent you are or would be ..
Ted Haggard s Gospel Rub

Philadelphia, PA

#11 May 24, 2014
david traversa wrote:
<quoted text>I AM advocating man-boy sex....
Oh crap, you're a nightmare for lgbt people.

A genuine NAMBLA holdover.
Belle Sexton

Santa Cruz, CA

#12 May 24, 2014
Buford wrote:
FTA:
This writer first became sexually involved with Bachardy’s brother, but his relationship with Bachardy would last for three decades despite the DIFFERENCE in THEIR AGES(Bachardy was MERELY a TEENAGER when they met and Isherwood was born in the early years of that century).
__________
KEEP GAY MEN AWAY FROM BOYS!!!
May-December romances are hardly a gay invention.
david traversa

Cordoba, Argentina

#13 May 24, 2014
Ted Haggard s Gospel Rub wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh crap, you're a nightmare for lgbt people.
A genuine NAMBLA holdover.
Im confident LGBT people are more intelligent than you give them credit for .. and far, far less prejudiced and ridiculously spinsterish than you most obviously are .
Ted Haggard s Gospel Rub

Philadelphia, PA

#14 May 24, 2014
david traversa wrote:
<quoted text>Im confident LGBT people are more intelligent than you give them credit for .. and far, far less prejudiced and ridiculously spinsterish than you most obviously are .
No, actually the entire lgbt community had this NAMBLA discussion in the 80s, and settled it, and no one thinks it's "spinsterish" to reject people like you who say there should be _no_ age of consent laws whatsoever for "precocious" children.

I assume other have not similarly called you out because they don't like addressing the issue of child sex abuse which the homophobic trolls constantly harp on to defame lgbt people. And here you are, with your disgusting, irrational ideas of _no_ age of consent....
david traversa

Cordoba, Argentina

#15 May 24, 2014
Ted Haggard s Gospel Rub wrote:
<quoted text>
No, actually the entire lgbt community had this NAMBLA discussion in the 80s, and settled it, and no one thinks it's "spinsterish" to reject people like you who say there should be _no_ age of consent laws whatsoever for "precocious" children.
I assume other have not similarly called you out because they don't like addressing the issue of child sex abuse which the homophobic trolls constantly harp on to defame lgbt people. And here you are, with your disgusting, irrational ideas of _no_ age of consent....
Science tells us no two human beings are exactly the same so how can hard and fast rules be invariably applied to us, precocious or not ? Gays have always been unjustly accused of pedophilia and naturally NAMBLA is especially sensitive on this issue .. That doesn't mean there can't be exceptions, like there are exceptions to every moral rule .. Violence, rape or calculated seduction NO . True love ( as in Isherwood's case ) definitely YES . NAMBLA may be a worthy organization but I'm sure the majority of its members come from middle class families with middle class ideas and that's hardly ever a recommendation when it comes to deciding important moral issues, much like PTA meetings, well meaning but inevitably fallible .
Ted Haggard s Gospel Rub

Philadelphia, PA

#16 May 24, 2014
david traversa wrote:
<quoted text>Science tells us no two human beings are exactly the same so how can hard and fast rules be invariably applied to us, precocious or not ? Gays have always been unjustly accused of pedophilia and naturally NAMBLA is especially sensitive on this issue .. That doesn't mean there can't be exceptions, like there are exceptions to every moral rule .. Violence, rape or calculated seduction NO . True love ( as in Isherwood's case ) definitely YES . NAMBLA may be a worthy organization but I'm sure the majority of its members come from middle class families with middle class ideas and that's hardly ever a recommendation when it comes to deciding important moral issues, much like PTA meetings, well meaning but inevitably fallible .
I have quoted you entire post so we have it.

Drinking, voting, military service, driver's licenses, many professional licenses, required education are all done by chronology...because your estimation of who is "precocious" is vague and unhinged. It is a usually sensible compromise to set an age.

To review you openly stated you want the age of conset to be _12_, which is sick enough. Then you suggested that "precocious" children should have _no_ age of consent.

At this point I don't know why other posters are letting your NAMBLA stuff slide without comment.

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