A right to marriage

There are 20 comments on the www.jpost.com story from Jul 6, 2013, titled A right to marriage. In it, www.jpost.com reports that:

Why rights for one minority, but not for the other?; One of Israel's major failures is denying gay couples the ability to marry.

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“Act Interdimensional ly”

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#87 Jul 9, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Another argument for gun control.
Sometimes, a dog just has to be shot. And other times, it's just fun as hell.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#89 Jul 9, 2013
The Troll Stopper wrote:
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I bet your wife has a d!ck.
Not that there is anything wrong with that.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#91 Jul 9, 2013
The Troll Stopper wrote:
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Not if you suffer from Queer Mental illness
I'm sorry, I didnt know it was an illness.

Could you kindly provide a link to a current diagnostic manual to support your opinion?
HolyDamnItsSam

Baltimore, MD

#92 Jul 9, 2013
I mean honestly, people act like they seriously care that much about who someone else chooses to marry. That's their business. I never understood really why marriage laws were so uptight. As long as you're not the one marrying someone you don't like, then why stop someone else from marrying someone that they love? I just think people should mind their own business. What do you honestly get fromk stopping someone else from marrying the person that they want? Nothing. Just the satisfaction of knowing that you can actually do that. But that's not all that great either so

I.G.: samanthasaurusrex
Ravianna

Lincoln City, OR

#94 Jul 9, 2013
Marriage is another word for procreation/mating. Two people of the same gender cannot procreate/mate with each other so therefore two people of the same gender can never be married.

“Act Interdimensional ly”

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#95 Jul 9, 2013
The Troll Stopper wrote:
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I bet your wife has a d!ck.
Just the one as far as I know.

“Act Interdimensional ly”

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#96 Jul 9, 2013
Ravianna wrote:
Marriage is another word for procreation/mating. Two people of the same gender cannot procreate/mate with each other so therefore two people of the same gender can never be married.
People who don't mate aren't married? Hmmmmm ....

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#97 Jul 9, 2013
The Troll Stopper wrote:
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Use you're common sense fagg@t or do your own research.
In other words, you are FOS.

Entertaining.

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#98 Jul 9, 2013
*Civil union/binding agreement (legal, financial purposes)
*As far as I know a "marriage" is distinctly linked to ceremonial/church/religious practices PLUS a binding contract agreement
So just make up a new term so everyone is happy.

i think, having and using the English language here in the US, one of the most complex and "wordy" languages-allowing for new words and phrases to be added/developed right along with the changing times we should just do that. Plus the US claims itself to be one of the most Democratic (I know, I know, give or take with this or that) and liberal "Free" places on earth, we ought to create a new freaking word, so that the Religions can have their own little rules and practices, keeping the literal term for "Marriage" under whatever guidelines they so desire. And then create another, less Religiously inclined legal union for everyone. It's basically one of those things that WILL HAPPEN. It just will. No matter what anyone's opinion is. Over time, everything that gathered large numbers of protestors and reformers and was this big of an "issue" or whatever, it will end up being legal. Everything that's happening now is just prolonging the inevitable. Alcohol became legal again way-back-when, African Americans and women gained civil rights, we got a black president, went to war, are in the slowwww process of legalizing marijuana- America will stretch out its liberal arms a little more, each time enough people ask for a freedom.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#100 Jul 9, 2013
The Troll Stopper wrote:
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No, you are as well as mentally ill.
Now you are my psychiatrist as well?

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#101 Jul 9, 2013
Rick Moss wrote:
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People who don't mate aren't married? Hmmmmm ....
Its usually the other way around, in my experience. People who marry STOP mating.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

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#102 Jul 9, 2013
Ravianna wrote:
Marriage is another word for procreation/mating. Two people of the same gender cannot procreate/mate with each other so therefore two people of the same gender can never be married.
If that is what you want to believe buttercup, you just go right ahead, but do you future offspring a favor, don't mate.

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#103 Jul 9, 2013
anonymous wrote:
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Bluffing again, Tre? Isn't your modus operandi to use pictures?
How is that bluffing?

I'm not one dimensional, but if you like pics, here's one for you...
http://www.trikator.cz/img/data/tricka/motivy...

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“Judge less, Love more”

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#104 Jul 9, 2013
anonymous wrote:
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Or maybe your secret weapon is old and tired news.
From Wikipedia:
"By the early 20th century, the Equal Protection Clause had been eclipsed to the point that Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr. dismissed it as "the usual last resort of constitutional arguments."
If you want "equal protection" you should not be protecting the "right" of marriage at all, but allowing a civil union contract that pertains to any group wishing to pool financial resources. That would include gays, straights, polygamous relationships and NO legal endorsements of any one type over another. NO basis for ending such relationships other than financial, and NO putting the onus on the legal system to play social worker when our whiny public can never agree as to what is the right kind of social work to perform.
What part of one plus one equals two stumps you?

Your polygamy gambit is lame, ridiculous ond completely different than equal protection under the law.

The laws says marriage is two people. Not A person and an animal or multiple people.

Stop pissing on my leg and trying to convince me it's rain!

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“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

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#105 Jul 9, 2013
Ravianna wrote:
Marriage is another word for procreation/mating. Two people of the same gender cannot procreate/mate with each other so therefore two people of the same gender can never be married.
DOOFUS ALERT!

WRONG.

If your definition a marriage is popping out offspring the you just made you own mother nothing better than a breeding bitch at a puppy farm. Bet she and your Dad feel real good about that!

SICKO!

You are also ignoring married couples who practice family planning (a LOT of Catholics in that category BTW) as well as couples that are elderly or infertile. In addition, under your classification people who adopt aren't married!

Try thinking outside the catbox you have for a brain before you post such ridiculous crap again.

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“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

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#106 Jul 9, 2013
blondieokc wrote:
*Civil union/binding agreement (legal, financial purposes)
*As far as I know a "marriage" is distinctly linked to ceremonial/church/religious practices PLUS a binding contract agreement
So just make up a new term so everyone is happy.
i think, having and using the English language here in the US, one of the most complex and "wordy" languages-allowing for new words and phrases to be added/developed right along with the changing times we should just do that. Plus the US claims itself to be one of the most Democratic (I know, I know, give or take with this or that) and liberal "Free" places on earth, we ought to create a new freaking word, so that the Religions can have their own little rules and practices, keeping the literal term for "Marriage" under whatever guidelines they so desire. And then create another, less Religiously inclined legal union for everyone. It's basically one of those things that WILL HAPPEN. It just will. No matter what anyone's opinion is. Over time, everything that gathered large numbers of protestors and reformers and was this big of an "issue" or whatever, it will end up being legal. Everything that's happening now is just prolonging the inevitable. Alcohol became legal again way-back-when, African Americans and women gained civil rights, we got a black president, went to war, are in the slowwww process of legalizing marijuana- America will stretch out its liberal arms a little more, each time enough people ask for a freedom.
There is no need to create a new term, but it's interesting that so many who whine about "political correctness" want to find a new politically correct term for a word everyone already understands (Two people joining into a lifetime commitment before the government and SOMETIMES before whatever religious group they may belong to.

Heterosexuals don't always marry in churches.

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“Judge less, Love more”

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Born in Newark Ohio

#107 Jul 9, 2013
Definitions of the word "MARRIAGE":
mar·riage
[mar-ij]
noun
1.
a legally, religiously, or socially sanctioned union of persons who commit to one another, forming a familial and economic bond: Anthropologists say that some type of marriage has been found in every society, past and present.
2.
a.
the social institution under which a man and woman establish their decision to live as husband and wife by legal commitments, religious ceremonies, etc.
b.
a similar institution involving partners of the same gender, as in gay marriage; same-sex marriage .
3.
the state, condition, or relationship of being married; wedlock: They have a happy marriage. Synonyms: matrimony. Antonyms: single life, bachelorhood, spinsterhood, singleness.
4.
the legal or religious ceremony that formalizes the decision of two people to live as a married couple, including the accompanying social festivities: to officiate at a marriage. Synonyms: nuptials, marriage ceremony, wedding. Antonyms: divorce, annulment.
5.
a relationship in which two people have pledged themselves to each other in the manner of a husband and wife, without legal sanction: trial marriage.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/marria...

marriage: a:(1): the state of being united to a person of the opposite sex as husband or wife in a consensual and contractual relationship recognized by law (2): the state of being united to a person of the same sex in a relationship like that of a traditional marriage <same-sex marriage>
b : the mutual relation of married persons : wedlock
c : the institution whereby individuals are joined in a marriage
2
: an act of marrying or the rite by which the married status is effected; especially : the wedding ceremony and attendant festivities or formalities
3
: an intimate or close union <the marriage of painting and poetry — J. T. Shawcross>
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/mar...

marriage- definition
1
[countable/uncountable] the relationship between two people who are husband and wife, or a similar relationship between people of the same sex

a long and happy marriage

Too many marriages end in divorce.
by marriage:

I'm related to Bill by marriage (=he is a relative of my husband or wife).
Thesaurus entry for this meaning of marriage
See also marriage of convenience
2
[countable] a wedding (sense 1)

Their marriage is planned for September.
Thesaurus entry for this meaning of marriage
3
[countable] a close union between two things

The merger is a marriage designed to double spending.
Thesaurus entry for this meaning of marriage
http://www.macmillandictionary.com/dictionary...

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“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#108 Jul 9, 2013
blondieokc wrote:
*Civil union/binding agreement (legal, financial purposes)
*As far as I know a "marriage" is distinctly linked to ceremonial/church/religious practices PLUS a binding contract agreement
So just make up a new term so everyone is happy.
i think, having and using the English language here in the US, one of the most complex and "wordy" languages-allowing for new words and phrases to be added/developed right along with the changing times we should just do that. Plus the US claims itself to be one of the most Democratic (I know, I know, give or take with this or that) and liberal "Free" places on earth, we ought to create a new freaking word, so that the Religions can have their own little rules and practices, keeping the literal term for "Marriage" under whatever guidelines they so desire. And then create another, less Religiously inclined legal union for everyone. It's basically one of those things that WILL HAPPEN. It just will. No matter what anyone's opinion is. Over time, everything that gathered large numbers of protestors and reformers and was this big of an "issue" or whatever, it will end up being legal. Everything that's happening now is just prolonging the inevitable. Alcohol became legal again way-back-when, African Americans and women gained civil rights, we got a black president, went to war, are in the slowwww process of legalizing marijuana- America will stretch out its liberal arms a little more, each time enough people ask for a freedom.
So I guess you think there should be a law against saying, "Add these ingredients to the oil and allow them time to marry".

Guess you don't think our jails are full enough.

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#109 Jul 9, 2013
Hey there everyone, what's the discussion turned to in this thread?

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#110 Jul 9, 2013
Here in Florida the main gay rights groups are looking for gay and lesbian couples to join a lawsuit on this issue as well.

I'm a bit offended by that because I am not currently in a relationship. Marriage is not an issue just for couples. Marriage bans affect single people as well as couples.

If I had the financial resources I'd sue Florida myself in Federal Court for violating my rights under Article 4 (The F.F. & C.C.), Article 6 (The supremacy clause), Amendment 1 (Religious freedom), Amendment 9 (Non enumerated Rights guaranteed retained by the people) as well as the equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment.

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