Motion for stay of Utah gay marriage ...

Motion for stay of Utah gay marriage ruling denied

There are 34 comments on the WHDH story from Dec 22, 2013, titled Motion for stay of Utah gay marriage ruling denied. In it, WHDH reports that:

A federal appeals court has rejected an emergency request from Utah officials to stay a judge's ruling that overturned the state's same-sex marriage ban.

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“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#1 Dec 22, 2013
The appeals court rejected the stay so now the dopes went back to the original judge who decided the case to ask for a stay.

And Mormons aren't Christians.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#2 Dec 22, 2013
From the article:

" ... The 10th Circuit on Sunday said they couldn't rule on a stay until Shelby hasn't acted on the motion before him."

They filed their petitions in the wrong order, so the 10th Circuit didn't "deny the petition", per se, but rather stated that until the Federal District Court failed to act they did not have Jurisdiction.
david traversa

Argentina

#3 Dec 22, 2013
Tiresome bunch , these so-called Christian bores ..

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#4 Dec 23, 2013
david traversa wrote:
Tiresome bunch , these so-called Christian bores ..
See Post # 1, second sentence.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#5 Dec 23, 2013
My guess is that the trial judge will deny a stay, the appeals court will deny a stay, and SCOTUS will decline to hear the case.

That means that all of the other state constitutional amendments, and state laws, of the states in the 10th circuit are at high risk of being ruled unconstitutional, and they probably will be.

Then, if an appeals court in another circuit rules that in their jurisdiction, similar laws ARE constitutional, then that will set up an appeal to SCOTUS to rule on the conflict between the appeals courts.

And a SCOTUS ruling on case like that, if decided in our favor, will bring marriage equality to all jurisdictions of the U.S., i.e. states, territories, etc.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#6 Dec 23, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
My guess is that the trial judge will deny a stay, the appeals court will deny a stay, and SCOTUS will decline to hear the case.
That means that all of the other state constitutional amendments, and state laws, of the states in the 10th circuit are at high risk of being ruled unconstitutional, and they probably will be.
Then, if an appeals court in another circuit rules that in their jurisdiction, similar laws ARE constitutional, then that will set up an appeal to SCOTUS to rule on the conflict between the appeals courts.
And a SCOTUS ruling on case like that, if decided in our favor, will bring marriage equality to all jurisdictions of the U.S., i.e. states, territories, etc.
WOW!

Sometimes you're actually lucid!

Oh! I get it now.

Who ARE you, and what did you do with our "FaFoxy" !?!
hi hi

Lancaster, PA

#7 Dec 23, 2013
snyper wrote:
From the article:
" ... The 10th Circuit on Sunday said they couldn't rule on a stay until Shelby hasn't acted on the motion before him."
They filed their petitions in the wrong order, so the 10th Circuit didn't "deny the petition", per se, but rather stated that until the Federal District Court failed to act they did not have Jurisdiction.
I saw this after "making an announcement" about this in another thread. It is unfortunate, if it can so be deemed, that the MANIC RACES of today (to break news) produce incomplete sets of information. The initial articles on this left out the crucial circumstance that this denial was procedural. Also, thank you.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#8 Dec 23, 2013
I wouldn't try to read too much into this denial by the 10th circuit.

It was a procedural ruling.

I'd still be surprised if the 10th circuit denies the eventual "stay pending appeal" request.

If they DO deny it, then that certainly WOULD be a telling sign.

First things first- let's see what Judge Shelby does today.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#9 Dec 23, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
My guess is that the trial judge will deny a stay, the appeals court will deny a stay, and SCOTUS will decline to hear the case.
That means that all of the other state constitutional amendments, and state laws, of the states in the 10th circuit are at high risk of being ruled unconstitutional, and they probably will be.
Then, if an appeals court in another circuit rules that in their jurisdiction, similar laws ARE constitutional, then that will set up an appeal to SCOTUS to rule on the conflict between the appeals courts.
And a SCOTUS ruling on case like that, if decided in our favor, will bring marriage equality to all jurisdictions of the U.S., i.e. states, territories, etc.
I have to agree with Synper; you seem especially lucid today. Your meds must finally be working!

IF the anti-gays were smart (and that's a BIG if), they would look ahead and realize the ONLY way to slow this down is to NOT even appeal these cases. That way we'd have to go state by state in federal court after federal court to get all 50 states, and that could likely take another decade or more.

But since they're irrational to begin with, they will of course appeal and risk losing an entire circuit or the entire country instead of just one state.

The circuit appeals courts could certainly slow this down on their own accord simply by rejecting an appeal, but that would take collusion among all the remaining appeals courts with cases pending.

In addition, the SCOTUS may WANT to take one of these cases, either to save the remaining state bans or to overturn them and be done with it.

Either way, I still think this is over in 5 years max.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#10 Dec 23, 2013
snyper wrote:
<quoted text>
WOW!
Sometimes you're actually lucid!
Oh! I get it now.
Who ARE you, and what did you do with our "FaFoxy" !?!
I am simply being Fair and Balanced, as I ALWAYS am.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#11 Dec 23, 2013
Our "Foxy" is back.
david traversa

Argentina

#12 Dec 23, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
<quoted text>
See Post # 1, second sentence.
Yes .. they're pretty disconnected from reality ; though it seems we have some friends amongst the more enlightened of them ..

“A JOURNEY OF A THOUSAND MILES”

Since: Aug 08

MUST BEGIN WITH A SINGLE STEP!

#13 Dec 23, 2013
Judge Shelby has denied the Stay stating that the State did NOT ask for one and therefore it is to late......now the State will try again with the 10th Circuit!!!

It also appears that several County Clerks are DENYING marriage licenses to Same-Sex Couples waiting on what the State is going to do.....which Judge Shelby has stated is against his ruling and could end in some legal action!!!
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#14 Dec 23, 2013
Latest news feed 2 minutes ago:
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"Judge denies Utah AG’s request to halt same-sex marriages"
http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/57299146-78...

“A JOURNEY OF A THOUSAND MILES”

Since: Aug 08

MUST BEGIN WITH A SINGLE STEP!

#15 Dec 23, 2013
Here is some information from this mornings ruling:
http://equalityontrial.com/2013/12/23/distric...
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#16 Dec 23, 2013
The bigots' worthless arguments are bouncing off the US Constitution like ping-pong balls bounce against a battleship

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#17 Dec 23, 2013
NOW they can file with the 10th Circuit.

“A JOURNEY OF A THOUSAND MILES”

Since: Aug 08

MUST BEGIN WITH A SINGLE STEP!

#18 Dec 23, 2013
snyper wrote:
NOW they can file with the 10th Circuit.
And they will......at this point it will be interesting to see what the 10th will do seeing that in their initial denial they stated that the State failed to show harm that would satisfy any requirement for a Stay.........awaiting the next step......may the 10th go the way as the Courts did in New Jersey instead of like the 9th did with Prop 8.

“A JOURNEY OF A THOUSAND MILES”

Since: Aug 08

MUST BEGIN WITH A SINGLE STEP!

#19 Dec 23, 2013
Here is the request for a Stay from the 10th.......interesting reading:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/193318340/13-4178-8
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#20 Dec 23, 2013
NorCal Native wrote:
Here is the request for a Stay from the 10th.......interesting reading:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/193318340/13-4178-8
By adding the word 'world' to their whine; Utah's bigots are attempting to obscure the timeline of the events they use in their argument
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The 'world' began including gays in legal same-sex relationships 35 years ago (Netherlands 1979) and gave it the official title 'marriage' 13 years ago (Netherlands 2000)

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