What gender are intersex people allow...

What gender are intersex people allowed to marry?

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#1 Mar 18, 2013
Who are intersex/hermaphroditic people allowed to marry? Both genders or neither gender or other intersex people only? If someone with both organs can marry who they want I should be able to marry another dude period.

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#2 Mar 18, 2013
Intersexed people are (at least in the UK) registered at birth as either boy or girl (same as anyone). That means they're allowed to marry the opposite of what they are "officially" and marrying the other would be classed as a same sex marriage,(although in actuality it isn't)
Tomas

Turkey

#3 Mar 18, 2013
The way the world is going anybody can marry anybody or anything. Why should there be rules or laws anymore now that the queers have taken over?

“The Guy Who's Here”

Since: Mar 13

Lauderhill, FL

#4 Mar 18, 2013
equalityboy81 wrote:
Who are intersex/hermaphroditic people allowed to marry? Both genders or neither gender or other intersex people only? If someone with both organs can marry who they want I should be able to marry another dude period.
I'd think that it would be whatever gender their partner subscribes to. I suppose genetically, even intersex people are one or the other, though I've yet to encounter a genetically dual person in my readings.
They may have both genitalia in some cases, and biologically they may be of one [i]sex[/i], but the gender, it's whatever the person feels they are.

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#5 Mar 18, 2013
seishin17 wrote:
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I'd think that it would be whatever gender their partner subscribes to. I suppose genetically, even intersex people are one or the other, though I've yet to encounter a genetically dual person in my readings.
They may have both genitalia in some cases, and biologically they may be of one [i]sex[/i], but the gender, it's whatever the person feels they are.
Usually if it's one or the other then it's a physical malformation and not classed as Intersex. Genetically it's XXY (or more rarely XYY) or a genetic mosaic of XX/XY chromosomes.
Some intersex people don't equate themselves wholly with either gender and choice of partner is dependent on other things.

“The Guy Who's Here”

Since: Mar 13

Lauderhill, FL

#6 Mar 18, 2013
Stocking wrote:
<quoted text>Usually if it's one or the other then it's a physical malformation and not classed as Intersex. Genetically it's XXY (or more rarely XYY) or a genetic mosaic of XX/XY chromosomes.
Some intersex people don't equate themselves wholly with either gender and choice of partner is dependent on other things.
Okay, sounds like I need to do a little more reading, then! lol Still, I'd still like to believe those who subscribe to one gender or another might still have the option of whoever they decide on, depending on legal flexibility, anyway.
Jake

Alexandria, VA

#7 Mar 18, 2013
seishin17 wrote:
<quoted text>Okay, sounds like I need to do a little more reading, then! lol Still, I'd still like to believe those who subscribe to one gender or another might still have the option of whoever they decide on, depending on legal flexibility, anyway.
Are you a queer?

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#8 Mar 19, 2013
seishin17 wrote:
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Okay, sounds like I need to do a little more reading, then! lol Still, I'd still like to believe those who subscribe to one gender or another might still have the option of whoever they decide on, depending on legal flexibility, anyway.
No, you don't need to do a little more reading, it's me that needs to do a little more thinking before making such and arrogant post that eliminates a whole swathe of people who consider themselves and call themselves intersexed. I was being absolutist in terms of genetics in an attempt at simplification; of course, real life is not like that and a whole swathe of people who are genetically just male or just female are actually intersexed because that is who they perceive themselves to be because of physically having characteristics of both. Many intersexed are not the elitist XX/XY mosiac as I am and I do know this, just was trying to make the point you actually did in that if a person is genetically male or female then chances are they are officially that gender and so marry the opposite. Again, real life, some intersexed people are the opposite gender to their chromosomes or don't identify fully with either. The other thing I didn't say was those of XXY and XYY who are genetically intersexed, many of them would not have physical characteristics of both or would they consider themselves intersexed. So, I am sorry for my reductionist post yesterday.

Getting back to the topic; I think a change in marriage wording from man and woman to two persons would benefit a lot of us. Not only would it include SSM it would include transgenders (who for example can run into problems when they've previously been married as one sex to the opposite). Generally, it would prevent the problem of having male or female on a birth certificate (when it comes to marriage)for intersexed or GLBT.

“The Guy Who's Here”

Since: Mar 13

Lauderhill, FL

#9 Mar 19, 2013
Jake wrote:
<quoted text>Are you a queer?
Well, more so gay, but yeah.

“The Guy Who's Here”

Since: Mar 13

Lauderhill, FL

#10 Mar 19, 2013
Stocking wrote:
<quoted text>No, you don't need to do a little more reading, it's me that needs to do a little more thinking before making such and arrogant post that eliminates a whole swathe of people who consider themselves and call themselves intersexed. I was being absolutist in terms of genetics in an attempt at simplification; of course, real life is not like that and a whole swathe of people who are genetically just male or just female are actually intersexed because that is who they perceive themselves to be because of physically having characteristics of both. Many intersexed are not the elitist XX/XY mosiac as I am and I do know this, just was trying to make the point you actually did in that if a person is genetically male or female then chances are they are officially that gender and so marry the opposite. Again, real life, some intersexed people are the opposite gender to their chromosomes or don't identify fully with either. The other thing I didn't say was those of XXY and XYY who are genetically intersexed, many of them would not have physical characteristics of both or would they consider themselves intersexed. So, I am sorry for my reductionist post yesterday.

Getting back to the topic; I think a change in marriage wording from man and woman to two persons would benefit a lot of us. Not only would it include SSM it would include transgenders (who for example can run into problems when they've previously been married as one sex to the opposite). Generally, it would prevent the problem of having male or female on a birth certificate (when it comes to marriage)for intersexed or GLBT.
Thanks for that! ;-)
The birth certificate bit has always kind of irked me because it's so bipolar in thought for many of the countries that even bother to have one, actually. I think it's so narrow-minded they don't allow for alternative possibilities. At least Ontario and Hawaii are stepping ahead.
Alphonse

Absecon, NJ

#11 Mar 19, 2013
seishin17 wrote:
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Well, more so gay, but yeah.
Are you really Rose_NoHo?

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#12 Mar 21, 2013
People should be able to marry who they want to marry. I'm tired of religious people legally being able to tell people what they can and cannot do.

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