Gay marriage ban: The case for

Gay marriage ban: The case for

There are 35 comments on the The Indianapolis Star story from Jan 18, 2014, titled Gay marriage ban: The case for. In it, The Indianapolis Star reports that:

When the Rev. Ron Johnson Jr. was a teen, his parents began opening their home on Sundays to people in the comm... In recent years, same-sex marriage has been a contentious subject within many religious groups in the U.S. Here is an overview of where 16 religious groups stand on this issue, as reported by the Pew Research Center in December 2012.

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Listen to the Word

Kingman, AZ

#1 Jan 19, 2014
The biggest reason for the church to "ban" (or not begin) "gay marriage" is that it is totally, completely, one hundred percent unscriptural. One cannot find one scriptural warrant for marrying anyone other than one adult male and one adult female who are capable of giving their mutual consent to one another. To argue "it is the loving thing to do" is ridiculous. Sanctioning sin is never the loving thing to do. Any sin could be condoned on such grounds. Indeed many have - like the killing of the unborn (under the argument that it would unloving to bring them into an unloving home or unloving world). St. Paul says that "love is the fulfilling of the law" not the breaking of the law.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#2 Jan 19, 2014
Listen to the Word wrote:
The biggest reason for the church to "ban" (or not begin) "gay marriage" is that it is totally, completely, one hundred percent unscriptural.
You do realize that your church is just a church and not the only one don't you? You do realize that there are Bible believing Christians who would disagree with you on that don't you?
Listen to the Word wrote:
One cannot find one scriptural warrant for marrying anyone other than one adult male and one adult female who are capable of giving their mutual consent to one another.
You obviously haven't read the Bible, it mandates polygamy in certain circumstances and mutual consent, not always a requirement, oh and adult, that's pretty much in the eye of the beholder, most girls were married off a year after puberty began back then. There are 8 variations on the design of marriage in the bible and all got God's blessing.
Listen to the Word wrote:
To argue "it is the loving thing to do" is ridiculous.
Why be loving, why not do unto others that which would piss the hell out of you if done unto you, the Lord approves? Who is Jesus to get in the way of YOUR Christianity?
Listen to the Word wrote:
Sanctioning sin is never the loving thing to do.
So you pray.
Listen to the Word wrote:
Any sin could be condoned on such grounds.
Even your own?
Listen to the Word wrote:
Indeed many have - like the killing of the unborn (under the argument that it would unloving to bring them into an unloving home or unloving world). St. Paul says that "love is the fulfilling of the law" not the breaking of the law.
Then why do you insist on continuing to break the law? Your job isn't to judge the acts of others, it's to keep an eye on your own.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#3 Jan 19, 2014
PS, if this was the state of Indiana's best case to violate the rights of your fellow citizens, may God forgive you, you're going to need it.

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#4 Jan 20, 2014
Listen to the Word wrote:
The biggest reason for the church to "ban" (or not begin) "gay marriage" is that it is totally, completely, one hundred percent unscriptural. One cannot find one scriptural warrant for marrying anyone other than one adult male and one adult female who are capable of giving their mutual consent to one another. To argue "it is the loving thing to do" is ridiculous. Sanctioning sin is never the loving thing to do. Any sin could be condoned on such grounds. Indeed many have - like the killing of the unborn (under the argument that it would unloving to bring them into an unloving home or unloving world). St. Paul says that "love is the fulfilling of the law" not the breaking of the law.
Yet, Jesus die for their sins also, so they may be saved by his grace. As for gay marriage being "unscriptural" Just what verse says that? "What shall be bound on earth, shall be bound in heaven."

Since: Mar 07

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#5 Jan 20, 2014
Listen to the Word wrote:
The biggest reason for the church to "ban" (or not begin) "gay marriage" is that it is totally, completely, one hundred percent unscriptural.........
The scripture promotes shacking up without marriage, a children having unmarried parents?

Where?

Since: Oct 08

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#6 Jan 20, 2014
Listen to the Word wrote:
The biggest reason for the church to "ban" (or not begin) "gay marriage" is that it is totally, completely, one hundred percent unscriptural. One cannot find one scriptural warrant for marrying anyone other than one adult male and one adult female who are capable of giving their mutual consent to one another. To argue "it is the loving thing to do" is ridiculous. Sanctioning sin is never the loving thing to do. Any sin could be condoned on such grounds. Indeed many have - like the killing of the unborn (under the argument that it would unloving to bring them into an unloving home or unloving world). St. Paul says that "love is the fulfilling of the law" not the breaking of the law.
No one gives a crap about your scriptures or how you use them to promote your prejudices.

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#7 Jan 21, 2014
Rick in Kansas wrote:
You do realize that there are Bible believing Christians who would disagree with you on that don't you?...
Do you realize that sanctioning sin is to not believe the Bible that condemns it?
How can "Bible believing Christians" do that without contradicting themselves?

Since: Mar 07

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#8 Jan 21, 2014
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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Do you realize that sanctioning sin is to not believe the Bible that condemns it?
How can "Bible believing Christians" do that without contradicting themselves?
The problem comes with your personal interpretations of scripture. Your interpretation is what a sin is, is twisted and skewed.

Being gay is a natural trait, seen in humans, and in many other creations across this world. It harms no one, is not chosen by the person who possesses the trait, and is not something that a person can change. There is not ONE case where a person has been proven to change orientation, and it's very easy to test.

Gay people have the same emotions, the same values - good and bad. We have the same needs, drives, dreams, and ability to live in society that everyone else has. We fall in love in the same way, and form families.

We can form deep and lasting relationships with others, and with our God. And you say this existence is a "sin", regardless of our actions and beliefs.

Is it any wonder that you are disregarded on these threads?

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#9 Jan 22, 2014
Quest wrote:
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The problem comes with your personal interpretations of scripture. Your interpretation is what a sin is ...
... what the Bible says it is.

You, on the other hand, remain in denial.

Since: Mar 07

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#10 Jan 22, 2014
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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... what the Bible says it is.
You, on the other hand, remain in denial.
In your opinion, which is only valid to you. And when your belief system files in the face of reality, common sense, and even your ability to bring others to God, you should start re-thinking it.
I trust God far more than I believe in you. Your denial of his hand in my life is sad, and rather strange since you have never met me, but as long as you don't try to encode your ignorance into civil laws that harm others, you can do as you choose.

Since: Mar 07

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#11 Jan 22, 2014
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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Do you realize that sanctioning sin is to not believe the Bible that condemns it?
How can "Bible believing Christians" do that without contradicting themselves?
Marriage and family life are not sins. There is no double standard only for gay folks.
Gremlin

Louisville, KY

#12 Jan 22, 2014
Listen to the Word wrote:
The biggest reason for the church to "ban" (or not begin) "gay marriage" is that it is totally, completely, one hundred percent unscriptural. One cannot find one scriptural warrant for marrying anyone other than one adult male and one adult female who are capable of giving their mutual consent to one another. To argue "it is the loving thing to do" is ridiculous. Sanctioning sin is never the loving thing to do. Any sin could be condoned on such grounds. Indeed many have - like the killing of the unborn (under the argument that it would unloving to bring them into an unloving home or unloving world). St. Paul says that "love is the fulfilling of the law" not the breaking of the law.
So you're comparing gay marriage to abortion? Funny how people quote the bible when it fits their anti gay agenda.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#13 Jan 22, 2014
Quest wrote:
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The scripture promotes shacking up without marriage, a children having unmarried parents?
Where?
Try the biblical story of Joseph, Mary & Jesus. I don't recall the bible saying they ever got married. And the Jews of the bible were polygamous. It was the pagan Romans who were monogamous. The Jews didn't stop practicing polygamy until about the 13th century CE. And some Jews are still polygamous. If someone is promoting "biblical marriage", then they are promoting "polygamy".

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#14 Jan 23, 2014
Quest wrote:
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In your opinion, which is only valid to you. And when your belief system files in the face of reality, common sense, and even your ability to bring others to God, you should start re-thinking it ...
Instead of projecting your actions unto others, why don't you follow your own advice?

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#15 Jan 24, 2014
Joe DeCaro wrote:
Do you realize that sanctioning sin is to not believe the Bible that condemns it?
How can "Bible believing Christians" do that without contradicting themselves?
Bible believing Christians tend to believe all sorts of things that are in complete and total contradiction with what the Bible actually has to say on a subject. Like your belief that the Bible is against slavery.

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#16 Jan 24, 2014
Rick in Kansas wrote:
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Bible believing Christians tend to believe all sorts of things that are in complete and total contradiction with what the Bible actually has to say on a subject ...
And by "coincidence" you and your fellow GLBTs know exactly what the Bible actually has to say about Romans 1?

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#17 Jan 24, 2014
Joe DeCaro wrote:
And by "coincidence" you and your fellow GLBTs know exactly what the Bible actually has to say about Romans 1?
The Bible speaks for itself, it's not my fault that you imagine that you heard things differently than I did.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#18 Jan 24, 2014
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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And by "coincidence" you and your fellow GLBTs know exactly what the Bible actually has to say about Romans 1?
So one should follow each and every command in the bible without exception ? Is that what you're saying ?

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#19 Jan 25, 2014
Fa-Foxy wrote:
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So one should follow each and every command in the bible without exception ? Is that what you're saying ?
I said: "And by 'coincidence' you and your fellow GLBTs know exactly what the Bible actually has to say about Romans 1?"
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>The Bible speaks for itself ...
Then it doesn't need you to paraphrase it.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#20 Jan 25, 2014
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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I said: "And by 'coincidence' you and your fellow GLBTs know exactly what the Bible actually has to say about Romans 1?"
<quoted text>
Then it doesn't need you to paraphrase it.
You didn't answer my question. Why not ?

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