Do we still need the Boy Scouts?

Do we still need the Boy Scouts?

There are 290 comments on the Click2Houston story from Oct 20, 2012, titled Do we still need the Boy Scouts?. In it, Click2Houston reports that:

In July, the BSA national headquarters clarified its ban on gays and lesbians -- leaving it in place and triggering a national movement by hundreds of former Eagle Scouts to renounce their rank and return their treasured medals.

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“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#26 Oct 20, 2012
Jr Esq wrote:
Satan has sent homosexual pedophiles into the BSA in an attempt to destroy it from within, just like he did with the RCC. Not being successfull, he now attempts to discredit and destroy the BSA from the outside. That is Satan's "Scorched Earth Policy": anything that he cannot penetrate, he will attempt to destroy.
Do you need any further proof of a homosexual agenda? Homosexuality is the perfect conduit for Satan to work his deadly machinations.
More religious hocus pocus.......

Why are all the anti-gays a bunch of religious freaks as well?
Jr Esq

El Segundo, CA

#27 Oct 20, 2012
NorCal Native wrote:
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This is a TOTAL LIE.......if the Boy Scouts had been doing background checks on their leaders, they would have known about these Child Molesters before hand.......and the fact that they hid them or moved them instead of prosecuting them, is their own damn fault.
There is NO HOMOSEXUAL AGENDA.......there is however a huge amount of denial from idiots like yourself who don't want to see that Pedophilia and Child Molestation HAVE NOTHING to do with ones's sexual orientation!!!
Background checks are not 100% foolproof, especially if the predator had not been previously caught and convicted of a crime.
And yes, just like the RCC, the BSA erred in sweeping things under the rug in order to protect their name.
I would venture to say that the Lord has a special place in Hell reserved for those who abuse their position of authority in order to violate the innocence of a child.
And in regards to an agenda, if you were not in denial, you might put two and two together and recognize a pattern. Are you so ignorant that you require a formal document or a link to convince you of something that is obvious?
Jr Esq

El Segundo, CA

#28 Oct 20, 2012
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>
More religious hocus pocus.......
Why are all the anti-gays a bunch of religious freaks as well?
"Why are all the anti-gays a bunch of religious freaks as well?"
Why are all the queers atheists?

“TO HATE SOMEONE SIMPLY FOR WHO”

Since: Aug 08

THEY ARE IS WRONG!!!

#29 Oct 20, 2012
Jr Esq wrote:
<quoted text>
Background checks are not 100% foolproof, especially if the predator had not been previously caught and convicted of a crime.
And yes, just like the RCC, the BSA erred in sweeping things under the rug in order to protect their name.
I would venture to say that the Lord has a special place in Hell reserved for those who abuse their position of authority in order to violate the innocence of a child.
And in regards to an agenda, if you were not in denial, you might put two and two together and recognize a pattern. Are you so ignorant that you require a formal document or a link to convince you of something that is obvious?
Look, the difference between me and you is that I look at things of this matter from a realistic view......you look at it from the narrow view that just because the gender of the perpetrator and the gender of the victim are the same.......that it has to do with Homosexuality and it doesn't.

I know the pattern, I know what happens to good people who are falsely accused just because people like you refuse to see this for what it is.......Child Molestation and the harming of innocent children.

You have such a hatred for Gay men, that you see nothing wrong with making false accusations against them, instead of educating yourself on what this is......and you are right, if a person has never been caught, then his background check would be clean.....but to deny a group of people based solely on who they are is not right either!!!

The ignorant one here is you.......you are the one who is ignoring the obvious just to justify your hate for those who are different.....and as for your hell comment, well that would only be true if the person believed like you do.......and by the way, most who molest children do believe like you, in fact 82% of people who molest children come from religious backgrounds!!!

“Son of Abraham”

Since: Aug 07

Natural Deviant

#34 Oct 20, 2012
The one thing about Topix that's unlike any other website I've seen is there are some major major psychos posting here. Guess that's what a lifetime of denying you're gay will do to you.
Jr Esq

El Segundo, CA

#35 Oct 20, 2012
NorCal Native wrote:
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Look, the difference between me and you is that I look at things of this matter from a realistic view......you look at it from the narrow view that just because the gender of the perpetrator and the gender of the victim are the same.......that it has to do with Homosexuality and it doesn't.
I know the pattern, I know what happens to good people who are falsely accused just because people like you refuse to see this for what it is.......Child Molestation and the harming of innocent children.
You have such a hatred for Gay men, that you see nothing wrong with making false accusations against them, instead of educating yourself on what this is......and you are right, if a person has never been caught, then his background check would be clean.....but to deny a group of people based solely on who they are is not right either!!!
The ignorant one here is you.......you are the one who is ignoring the obvious just to justify your hate for those who are different.....and as for your hell comment, well that would only be true if the person believed like you do.......and by the way, most who molest children do believe like you, in fact 82% of people who molest children come from religious backgrounds!!!
So in my post, I talked about a special place in Hell for those who abuse children.
Then in your reply, you say I "refuse to see this for what it is.......Child Molestation and the harming of innocent children"???
Your reply is massively convoluted and based on emotion rather than logic.

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#36 Oct 20, 2012
3OHY wrote:
<quoted text>
There's no such thing as a "gay boy" until some homosexual gets their hands on them. That's a falsehood pandered by homosexuals because they are interested in sexualizing children.
No, that's a falsehood perpetuated by you.

And it's YOU that is thinking about sex and kids in the same sentence.

Since being gay is innate, it can't be taught or created in someone who is not gay. That's not hard to understand, is it?

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#37 Oct 20, 2012
McMike wrote:
The one thing about Topix that's unlike any other website I've seen is there are some major major psychos posting here. Guess that's what a lifetime of denying you're gay will do to you.
That's about it.

I can understand the average person who might be uncomfortable around people because they don't understand. I even can get people who have been given mis-information about gay folks in the guise of religion.

But some of these trolls are sooo far beyond that. They are completely invested and obsessed with gay people, and crave almost constant attention from them, all the while claiming they HATE gay folks.

That's not your "normal" brand of ignorance.

That's just plain ole denial. Hating the thing inside themselves so much, that it consumes them and drives them to project their own terror on others.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#41 Oct 20, 2012
Jr Esq wrote:
<quoted text>
Background checks are not 100% foolproof, especially if the predator had not been previously caught and convicted of a crime.
And yes, just like the RCC, the BSA erred in sweeping things under the rug in order to protect their name.
I would venture to say that the Lord has a special place in Hell reserved for those who abuse their position of authority in order to violate the innocence of a child.
And in regards to an agenda, if you were not in denial, you might put two and two together and recognize a pattern. Are you so ignorant that you require a formal document or a link to convince you of something that is obvious?
Yes, the pattern is the pedophiles join organizations where they have easy access to children in private settings like the rectory or camping trips.

If men were allowed to be Girl Scout troop leaders or if girl were allowed to be Altar Girls, there would be just as much opposite-sex child sex abuse.

The problem isn't homosexuals; it's men who are pedophiles, regardless of which gender they target. If it's homosexuality to blame as you claim, then why is it there are almost no women pedophiles, even though half the homosexual population is made up of lesbians?

If anything, we should put only women in charge of the Boy Scouts & only allow women to be priests.
Jr Esq

El Segundo, CA

#42 Oct 20, 2012
McMike wrote:
The one thing about Topix that's unlike any other website I've seen is there are some major major psychos posting here. Guess that's what a lifetime of denying you're gay will do to you.
So McQueer, if you are gay, why does your avatar show a heterosexual couple?
I think you would make a good poster-child for motorcycle helmet laws.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#43 Oct 20, 2012
Jr Esq wrote:
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"Why are all the anti-gays a bunch of religious freaks as well?"
Why are all the queers atheists?
Actually about the same percentage of homosexuals are religious as straight people, somewhere around 80%.

The difference is they're not religious FREAKS like you.

No gay christian or muslim or jew believes the bible is the literal word of god or that the earth was magically created in 6 days and is only 6000 years old or that Moses led the Jews out of Egypt riding a dinasaur onto the ark.........

I'll be the first to admit that ANYONE who believes in magical sky-god creatures is a bit wacko, but the anti-gay religious freaks that to a whole different level.
BS Detector

Garden Grove, CA

#44 Oct 20, 2012
WeTheSheeple wrote:
The country has never needed the Boy Scouts. But as long as they exist, they shouldn't discriminate against gays & athiests.
Fascinating (and of course hypocritical) that you don't like others telling you how to act, how you feel, and what you say, yet you are perfectly (and hypocritically... but I repeat myself) fine with telling others how they should act, feel, and think. I site your use of the word "they shouldn't" above to substantiate my observation of your hypocrisy.

Would you ever discriminate against somebody who believed differently than you? Like a BSA leader? An evangelical christian preacher who does not believe as you do re homosexuality and gay rights?

Why isn't your bigotry any more odious than theirs?

“Happiness comes through giving”

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#45 Oct 20, 2012
snyper wrote:
Yes.
Agreed. Pedophiles need a place to go.(Of course there's always the rectory.)

Since: Mar 11

Location hidden

#47 Oct 20, 2012
fr 3OHY:

>Homosexuality is a social illness, which by its very nature of mental infirmity is inclined to collusion and conspiracy as pairs, or groups...<

Being GLBT is NOT a "social illness". However, being a homophobic bigot IS. There is therapy for it. Get some.

“saved From jesus”

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#48 Oct 20, 2012
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>Agreed. Pedophiles need a place to go.(Of course there's always the rectory.)
....or the FRC.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#49 Oct 20, 2012
BS Detector wrote:
<quoted text> Fascinating (and of course hypocritical) that you don't like others telling you how to act, how you feel, and what you say, yet you are perfectly (and hypocritically... but I repeat myself) fine with telling others how they should act, feel, and think. I site your use of the word "they shouldn't" above to substantiate my observation of your hypocrisy.
Would you ever discriminate against somebody who believed differently than you? Like a BSA leader? An evangelical christian preacher who does not believe as you do re homosexuality and gay rights?
Why isn't your bigotry any more odious than theirs?
No, because unlike you anti-gays, I don't discriminate against those I disagree with.
John e

Geneseo, NY

#50 Oct 20, 2012
3OHY wrote:
Sounds like questions queer National Socialists would ask... if they can't have access to those boys, then force them all to become Episcopalians, where they've insured they can.
Web users turn on trolls in what may be a new Internet age

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/10/19/web-use...
John e

Geneseo, NY

#51 Oct 20, 2012
Jr Esq wrote:
<quoted text>
So McQueer, if you are gay, why does your avatar show a heterosexual couple?
I think you would make a good poster-child for motorcycle helmet laws.
Web users turn on trolls in what may be a new Internet age

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/10/19/web-use...
John e

Geneseo, NY

#52 Oct 20, 2012
BS Detector wrote:
<quoted text> Fascinating (and of course hypocritical) that you don't like others telling you how to act, how you feel, and what you say, yet you are perfectly (and hypocritically... but I repeat myself) fine with telling others how they should act, feel, and think. I site your use of the word "they shouldn't" above to substantiate my observation of your hypocrisy.
Would you ever discriminate against somebody who believed differently than you? Like a BSA leader? An evangelical christian preacher who does not believe as you do re homosexuality and gay rights?
Why isn't your bigotry any more odious than theirs?
Web users turn on trolls in what may be a new Internet age

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/10/19/web-use...

Since: Jul 09

Indy/Philly/Toronto

#53 Oct 20, 2012
I was a Boy Scout and it was a great experience for me way back in the 1960s.
However today, the BSA seems more like the Hitler Youth.
There time has come and gone, but by their own doing.

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