Scientists find the gene that makes m...

Scientists find the gene that makes men gay - or very open about sex. It's hard to tell

There are 33 comments on the National Post story from Dec 8, 2017, titled Scientists find the gene that makes men gay - or very open about sex. It's hard to tell. In it, National Post reports that:

Participants in the study were rated for sexual orientation based on their sexual feelings. And, geez, these guys were candid Researchers who looked at the complete genome for more than 1,000 gay men and compared it to genetic data from 1,000 heterosexuals found the DNA was different for gay and straight men in at least two genes.

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Marco R s Secret Spouse

Philadelphia, PA

#1 Dec 8, 2017
If researchers aren't equally looking for the "gene that makes men str8" that reveals everything we need to know about their biases.
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#2 Dec 8, 2017
Marco R s Secret Spouse wrote:
If researchers aren't equally looking for the "gene that makes men str8" that reveals everything we need to know about their biases.
Being straight isn't a disorder. It was never in that comic book you call the DSM.
Marco R s Secret Spouse

Philadelphia, PA

#4 Dec 8, 2017
Wondering wrote:
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Being straight isn't a disorder.
It is the way you try to do it.

“A long time ago”

Since: Nov 09

in a galaxy far, far away....

#5 Dec 9, 2017
Wondering wrote:
Being straight isn't a disorder. It was never in that comic book you call the DSM.
Being gay isn't a disorder either, and if you think the DSM is a "comic book", then you have no basis for calling ANYTHING a disorder. Medical science is not determined by whatever makes you feel icky.
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#6 Dec 9, 2017
EdmondWA wrote:
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Medical science is not determined by whatever makes you feel icky.
Correct. It is determined, in this case, by a non-scientific vote to appease gay activists.

“A long time ago”

Since: Nov 09

in a galaxy far, far away....

#8 Dec 9, 2017
Wondering wrote:
Correct. It is determined, in this case, by a non-scientific vote to appease gay activists.
Wrong. Gays were perfectly justified in demanding a review of the categorization of homosexualilty, and the medical community had no reason to continue to stigmatize it. Disorders cause detriment to life quality, and it isn't valid to say that homosexuality makes someone's life harder when the fact is that it's just bigots who do that.

If homosexuality is a mental disorder, then it could strike anyone at any time. You'd better look out, bulging jeans might start to look pretty good any minute now.

“A long time ago”

Since: Nov 09

in a galaxy far, far away....

#9 Dec 9, 2017
The Worlds Biggest Lie wrote:
Attention Deficit Disorder.
Yep, those sure are three words you said there. Not much of an argument, though.
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#10 Dec 9, 2017
EdmondWA wrote:
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Wrong. Gays were perfectly justified in demanding a review of the categorization of homosexualilty,
They demanded it be removed, they didn't demand a review. Just think, when they 'voted' to remove it it made all of the work and prestige of all prior psychiatrists meaningless making them appear as just a bunch of quacks.

Homosexuals may be able to function in society, some very successfully. That isn't a disorder. The disorder is the same sex sexual attraction.

“A long time ago”

Since: Nov 09

in a galaxy far, far away....

#11 Dec 9, 2017
Wondering wrote:
They demanded it be removed, they didn't demand a review. Just think, when they 'voted' to remove it it made all of the work and prestige of all prior psychiatrists meaningless making them appear as just a bunch of quacks.
They WERE quacks. Their work WAS meaningless. It was as prestigious as strapping a left-hander's arm down to make him write with his right hand. There was no point to it.

But you'd be first in line to re-classify it as a mental disorder, wouldn't you? And what science and research would you use to justify it? None, because there isn't any. You just figure that since YOU don't like balls, no men should. Oh yeah, real prestigious.
Wondering wrote:
Homosexuals may be able to function in society, some very successfully. That isn't a disorder. The disorder is the same sex sexual attraction.
That isn't a disorder. What qualifies it? How is it different from being left-handed? Or having red hair? Or being good at basketball? Or being BAD at basketball?

Homosexuality is enjoyed throughout the animal kingdom. Are the animals disordered, too? Can your prestigious, obsolete psychiatrists help them?

I think you would eradicate all variety and diversity from humanity if you had the chance.
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#12 Dec 9, 2017
EdmondWA wrote:
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They WERE quacks. Their work WAS meaningless. It was as prestigious as strapping a left-hander's arm down to make him write with his right hand. There was no point to it.

But you'd be first in line to re-classify it as a mental disorder, wouldn't you? And what science and research would you use to justify it? None, because there isn't any. You just figure that since YOU don't like balls, no men should. Oh yeah, real prestigious.

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That isn't a disorder. What qualifies it? How is it different from being left-handed? Or having red hair? Or being good at basketball? Or being BAD at basketball?

Homosexuality is enjoyed throughout the animal kingdom. Are the animals disordered, too? Can your prestigious, obsolete psychiatrists help them?

I think you would eradicate all variety and diversity from humanity if you had the chance.
I didn't say anything should be eradicated.
I didn't say you were evil.
I never compared gays to lower life forms, gays do that.

Here are some really stupid questions:
How is being left handed different from gay sex?
How is having red hair different from gay sex?
How are basketball skills different from gay sex?

“A long time ago”

Since: Nov 09

in a galaxy far, far away....

#13 Dec 9, 2017
Wondering wrote:
I didn't say anything should be eradicated.
I didn't say you did. But I think that's what you would do. You obviously have a problem with people enjoying different things from what you enjoy, and you would push for them to have psychiatric treatment to make them enjoy the "correct" things.
Wondering wrote:
I didn't say you were evil.
Your slander will do that for you. People who already think that we are evil are on your side.
Wondering wrote:
I never compared gays to lower life forms, gays do that.
Sorry, never heard any do that.

If I said that humans breathe oxygen just like animals, would that mean that I'm comparing humans to lower life forms?
Wondering wrote:
Here are some really stupid questions:
I have no doubt.
Wondering wrote:
How is being left handed different from gay sex?
How is having red hair different from gay sex?
How are basketball skills different from gay sex?
Oh, SUDDENLY this is about gay SEX. What happened to this being about "same sex attraction"? Which one is the disorder? Doing it, or liking it?

The sudden twist to your questions is why they're "really stupid". Don't go changing your premise mid-argument.

I'd still like to know what scientific basis or research would justify re-classifying homosexuality as a disorder. Have you done any such research?
Christian Fumblementalist

Philadelphia, PA

#18 Dec 9, 2017
Wondering wrote:
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They demanded it be removed, they didn't demand a review. Just think, when they 'voted' to remove it it made all of the work and prestige of all prior psychiatrists meaningless making them appear as just a bunch of quacks.

Homosexuals may be able to function in society, some very successfully. That isn't a disorder. The disorder is the same sex sexual attraction.
Why haven't all you psychosexually troubled closet cases gotten together with your equally closeted, malpracticing, masturbating reparative therapayists to have it switched back? You've had decades to do so....

(Because it's uphill sledding against the educated majority in whatever context, that's why.)
Christian Fumblementalist

Philadelphia, PA

#20 Dec 9, 2017
"Happy L" is a boring troll. We need higher quality trolls.
Christian Fumblementalist

Philadelphia, PA

#24 Dec 9, 2017
NotSoDivineMsM wrote:
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Actually, it was never switched. It is only such in the gay APA DSM, which only represents 10% of American doctors, and .008% of world doctors.
Should be all the easier for psychosexually distrubed talibangelicals to undo the common sense move....

The professional groups represent the consensus views of their professional members. Rubes with sex problems do not take precedence over trained professionals when it comes to medical or social work or psychological issues.

The American Medical Association, the American Psychological Association, the American Psychiatric Association, the World Health Organization, the American Counseling Association, the American Academy of Pediatrics, and the National Association of Social Workers all agree, btw. Variations in sexual orientation are normal. Fixated homophobia is not.

“A long time ago”

Since: Nov 09

in a galaxy far, far away....

#25 Dec 9, 2017
Happy Lesbo wrote:
Lefthandedness is a brain disorder.
Citation please? I'm not going to be entertaining any wild notions without credible evidentiary support.
Happy Lesbo wrote:
Red hair is genetic. If your family has no red heads in it, then you will not a red head child. We have no red heads in our family, at no level yet.
It may be further generations back than you're aware, and it can still crop up.

Regardless, it still represents a trivial physiological trait which is shallowly demonized. There's no more point in scorning homosexuals than there is in scorning redheads. The color of someone's hair, and the gender they are attracted to, does you no wrong.
Happy Lesbo wrote:
Liar, homosexuality is not found in any species in the animal kingdom including humans, homosexual behavior is and that is different.
Well, it's kind of hard to ask lions or penguins whether they prefer males, or if they're just doing it for convenience or fun.

But I assure you, I have sex with my husband because I love his hairy chest and his overall maleness. The thought of sex with a woman turns me right off. That's the essence of homosexuality; to which gender one is attracted. I like dudes 100%, and chicks 0%. Except as friends.
Happy Lesbo wrote:
actually, when you lock animals in a cage or make them pets, you disorder their behavior.
Are you saying we should set them all FREE? Oh yeah, THAT'LL be good for them. Millions of cats and zebras and rhinos roaming the streets.

None of you have any concept of actual disorders. A CHANGE in behaviors is not necessarily a "disorder". Of course taming or caging an animal will change how it behaves. This doesn't mean they need shock therapy.
Happy Lesbo wrote:
I think you are promoting pedophilia, necrophilia and zoophilia, and citing it as variety.
Well then, you'd be wrong then, wouldn't you? I haven't said squat about those things. I think that CONSENT is the primary consideration in determining morality. Children, dead folks, and animals cannot give proper, informed consent. But recognizing consent in human adults is an important first step in granting them their rights.

Perhaps you're promoting taking consent away from people.
Happy Lesbo wrote:
Why are gays over represented in all three of those areas
Again.... citation please? Crazy slander is not a valid scientific finding.
Rainbow Kid

Boydton, VA

#33 Dec 10, 2017
NotSoDivineMsM wrote:
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Actually, it was never switched. It is only such in the gay APA DSM, which only represents 10% of American doctors, and .008% of world doctors.

That is like me asking you how come you have not had Leviticus 13:20 and Leviticus 18:22 removed from the Bible.

If what you think were true, then you would produce at least one scientific evidence.

EVEN THIS ARTICLE LEADS WITH A LIE, AND THEN SAYS IT IS HARD TO TELL.

They end up saying no it is not a gay gene.

How come after 44 years you all have not found a gay gene, one species with a gay orientation, and any evidence that homosexuality is not a disorder? You have found NADA.
Its because we haven't been here 44 years; grammaw
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We were borngay way more recently
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#34 Dec 10, 2017
EdmondWA wrote:
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I didn't say you did. But I think that's what you would do. You obviously have a problem with people enjoying different things from what you enjoy, and you would push for them to have psychiatric treatment to make them enjoy the "correct" things.
You really just don't get it. I have no problem with what you do, I really don't care what you do. I hope you enjoy whatever you do. The problem I have is with activists pushing everything homosexual on everyone and everything. When I say everything, I mean anything that isn't negative. Public schools, movies, television, ads, you name it. Gays are way over represented. Some people that believe marriage should be limited to one man and one woman have been thrown out of coffee shops, they've been ordered to take 'sensitivity' classes, they've been fined. Oh, and if you ever get into a confrontation with a homosexual, never ever call him gay, it will increase your punishment if it goes to court and you lose.

Gays often tell others to mind their own business. They should really be following their own advice. If you don't want other people getting into your business then you need to stop making your business theirs.
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#35 Dec 10, 2017
EdmondWA wrote:
Are you saying we should set them all FREE? Oh yeah, THAT'LL be good for them. Millions of cats and zebras and rhinos roaming the streets.
You know, a reasonable alternative is to leave them where they are instead of caging them.
Rainbow Kid

Boydton, VA

#36 Dec 10, 2017
Wondering wrote:
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You really just don't get it. I have no problem with what you do, I really don't care what you do. I hope you enjoy whatever you do. The problem I have is with activists pushing everything homosexual on everyone and everything. When I say everything, I mean anything that isn't negative. Public schools, movies, television, ads, you name it. Gays are way over represented. Some people that believe marriage should be limited to one man and one woman have been thrown out of coffee shops, they've been ordered to take 'sensitivity' classes, they've been fined. Oh, and if you ever get into a confrontation with a homosexual, never ever call him gay, it will increase your punishment if it goes to court and you lose.

Gays often tell others to mind their own business. They should really be following their own advice. If you don't want other people getting into your business then you need to stop making your business theirs.
The arrogant haters used to throw us out
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Now they know what its like
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They don't like it much do they ;o
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Perhaps the haters should practice their own golden rule:' treat us the way they want to be treated themselves'
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Duh!
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#37 Dec 10, 2017
Rainbow Kid wrote:
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The arrogant haters used to throw us out
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Now they know what its like
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They don't like it much do they ;o
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Perhaps the haters should practice their own golden rule:' treat us the way they want to be treated themselves'
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Duh!
They still throw you out. How do they know what it's like, they aren't gay. You sound like a hater. The fact is that there will always be people that are activists and extremists. That's not the majority but it is the reality.

A friend of mine won tickets to see "Elf" from a radio station. Her husband won't go because the elf and other male characters look "very gay." She's going with a girlfriend. See, one is a little extreme, the other doesn't care.

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