A Decade After Mass. Ruling, Gay Marriage Gains

There are 338 comments on the CBS Local story from Nov 16, 2013, titled A Decade After Mass. Ruling, Gay Marriage Gains. In it, CBS Local reports that:

In the decade since the highest court in Massachusetts issued its landmark ruling legalizing same-sex marriage, 14 other states and the District of Columbia have legalized it, with Illinois poised to become the 16th in a few days.

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“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#1 Nov 16, 2013
Compared to the time it took to overturn inter-racial marriage bans, we're moving at light speed.

We'll have gone from ZERO states to all 50 states in about 15 years.

I can't think of another social issue which has changed so dramatically in such a short period of time.
david traversa

Catamarca, Argentina

#2 Nov 16, 2013
Great news to everybody except the bigots and pseudo-Christians .. may they simmer into nothingness ..

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#3 Nov 16, 2013
WOO-HOO ! FULLY HOMOSEXUALIZIING THE STATES ONE BY ONE !

The PLAN is working !:)

(with apologies to felon Pete McGowan).

Since: Nov 13

Location hidden

#6 Nov 16, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
WOO-HOO ! FULLY HOMOSEXUALIZIING THE STATES ONE BY ONE !
The PLAN is working !:)
(with apologies to felon Pete McGowan).
So was gay liberation ... just before HIV hit.

Since: Nov 13

Location hidden

#7 Nov 16, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
Compared to the time it took to overturn inter-racial marriage bans, we're moving at light speed.
We'll have gone from ZERO states to all 50 states in about 15 years.
I can't think of another social issue which has changed so dramatically in such a short period of time.
Meanwhile, 10 years after same-sex marriage in Massachusetts, less than 5% of gay men are married.

Here's a disconcerting thought: suppose this trend continues in all the other states?

What will you be whooping and dancing in the streets about then?

Since: Mar 09

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#8 Nov 16, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
Compared to the time it took to overturn inter-racial marriage bans, we're moving at light speed.
We'll have gone from ZERO states to all 50 states in about 15 years.
I can't think of another social issue which has changed so dramatically in such a short period of time.
Imagine where we'd be if the ERA had been ratified.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#9 Nov 16, 2013
garylloyd wrote:
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Meanwhile, 10 years after same-sex marriage in Massachusetts, less than 5% of gay men are married.
Here's a disconcerting thought: suppose this trend continues in all the other states?
What will you be whooping and dancing in the streets about then?
Reposted from an earlier post by "Rainbow Kid" ...

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"309,000,000 Americans X 3% Gay Americans = 9,270,000.

9,270,000 Gay Americans / 50 States = 185,400 Gay Americans per State

185,400 Gay Americans per State X 6 States that allow Gay Marriage = 1,112,400

131,729 Reported Gay Marriages X 2 = 262,458 Gay Americans in a Marriage

(262,458 Gay Americans in a Marriage / 1,112,400 X 100)= 23.6%

So proportionally, 23.6% of gay people are in a gay marriage. This rate would go up if you included civil unions and domestic partnerships. That means that about 1/4 of gay people are in a committed monogamous relationship.

Let's do heterosexuals now.

309,000,000 Americans X .97 Straight Americans = 299,730,000

According to the Census, a total of 114,567,419 households were reported.

Of those, 48.6% were reported as married couples.

114,567,419 X .486 = 55,679,765 married couples.

55,679,765 married couples X 2 = 111,359,539 married people.

299,730,000 Straight Americans / 111,359,539 married people X 100 = 37.1%.

So 23.1% of gay and lesbian Americans are reported to be in a marriage, and 37.1% of straight Americans are reported to be in a marriage.

That discrepency has a lot of factors involved, but it does reveal that gays and lesbians are entering committed, monogamous relationships at steadily increasing rates, and the more accepting the society is for GLBT people, the more quickly you will see the two percentages become closer.

Isn't math fun?
Math is fun, isn't it?"

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It sure is.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#10 Nov 16, 2013
garylloyd wrote:
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So was gay liberation ... just before HIV hit.
HIV was circulating in various human populations long before the modern gay liberation movement started in 1969 with the Stonewall Riots.

The vast majority of people today who are suffering from hiv\AIDS are black people, and str8 people. Black males in the U.S. make up only about 5% of the total U.S. population, yet are 10 times more likely to be infected with hiv than white males.

Gay females have the lowest rate of hiv infection.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#11 Nov 16, 2013
snyper wrote:
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Imagine where we'd be if the ERA had been ratified.
New Jersey ?
Rick not in Kansas yet

Salina, KS

#12 Nov 16, 2013
garylloyd wrote:
Meanwhile, 10 years after same-sex marriage in Massachusetts, less than 5% of gay men are married.
We're reinventing the homosexual paradigm here and that takes time. With 10 years now, we're getting a generation of younger lesbians and gays knowing that they can aim for someone to spend their life with and maybe have a family with. We're trying to overcome damnation since time immemorial and the incessant message that if you grow up a mollycoddle your life is basically flocked, with something at least hopeful. Even if there were only one in ten years, given the shyte we had to go through to get this far, I'd still be amazed at what's been accomplished.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#13 Nov 16, 2013
garylloyd wrote:
<quoted text>
Meanwhile, 10 years after same-sex marriage in Massachusetts, less than 5% of gay men are married.
Here's a disconcerting thought: suppose this trend continues in all the other states?
What will you be whooping and dancing in the streets about then?
Perhaps it is less than 5%. But more than 50% of str8 people get divorced. Which figure should you be more proud about ?

Want to "preserve marriage" ? Then outlaw divorce. Problem solved.

Since: Jan 08

Bangkok, Thailand

#14 Nov 17, 2013
garylloyd wrote:
<quoted text>
Meanwhile, 10 years after same-sex marriage in Massachusetts, less than 5% of gay men are married.
Here's a disconcerting thought: suppose this trend continues in all the other states?
What will you be whooping and dancing in the streets about then?
I don't know where you get your figures, but, assuming you're correct, who cares? Americans have always valued the ability to have choice. How many take or don't take advantage of anything has nothing to do with the freedom to have that choice.

Yours is just another phony "idea" you think will cheapen our cause. Won't work, Asshole.

Since: Nov 13

Location hidden

#15 Nov 17, 2013
snyper wrote:
<quoted text>
Reposted from an earlier post by "Rainbow Kid" ...
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"309,000,000 Americans X 3% Gay Americans = 9,270,000.
9,270,000 Gay Americans / 50 States = 185,400 Gay Americans per State
185,400 Gay Americans per State X 6 States that allow Gay Marriage = 1,112,400
131,729 Reported Gay Marriages X 2 = 262,458 Gay Americans in a Marriage
(262,458 Gay Americans in a Marriage / 1,112,400 X 100)= 23.6%
So proportionally, 23.6% of gay people are in a gay marriage. This rate would go up if you included civil unions and domestic partnerships. That means that about 1/4 of gay people are in a committed monogamous relationship.
Let's do heterosexuals now.
309,000,000 Americans X .97 Straight Americans = 299,730,000
According to the Census, a total of 114,567,419 households were reported.
Of those, 48.6% were reported as married couples.
114,567,419 X .486 = 55,679,765 married couples.
55,679,765 married couples X 2 = 111,359,539 married people.
299,730,000 Straight Americans / 111,359,539 married people X 100 = 37.1%.
So 23.1% of gay and lesbian Americans are reported to be in a marriage, and 37.1% of straight Americans are reported to be in a marriage.
That discrepency has a lot of factors involved, but it does reveal that gays and lesbians are entering committed, monogamous relationships at steadily increasing rates, and the more accepting the society is for GLBT people, the more quickly you will see the two percentages become closer.
Isn't math fun?
Math is fun, isn't it?"
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It sure is.
Here we go again: whenever they get stats on gay men they don't like, what do they do? Pad these stats with lesbian stats.

Here's an example: In Massachusetts 10 years after same-sex marriage, only 5% of gay men are married. Well, the LGBT doesn't like that stat, so it gets the numbers for lesbians then reports back that a whooping 23% of "GAYS" are married in Massachusetts.

Here's the bottom-line: the LGBT can't be trusted and gay men are still not getting married in the State of Massachusetts.

Since: Nov 13

Location hidden

#16 Nov 17, 2013
Dubya wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't know where you get your figures, but, assuming you're correct, who cares? Americans have always valued the ability to have choice. How many take or don't take advantage of anything has nothing to do with the freedom to have that choice.
Yours is just another phony "idea" you think will cheapen our cause. Won't work, Asshole.
Sorry ...

I forgot for a moment that in everything you, you're right -- even when you're flat wrong.

I won't make that mistake again.

Since: Nov 13

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#17 Nov 17, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
<quoted text>
Perhaps it is less than 5%. But more than 50% of str8 people get divorced. Which figure should you be more proud about ?
Want to "preserve marriage" ? Then outlaw divorce. Problem solved.
The point is when given the chance to marry, gay men don't take it. Your stat about straight marriages doesn't change that, meathead.

Since: Nov 13

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#18 Nov 17, 2013
Rick not in Kansas yet wrote:
<quoted text> We're reinventing the homosexual paradigm here and that takes time. With 10 years now, we're getting a generation of younger lesbians and gays knowing that they can aim for someone to spend their life with and maybe have a family with. We're trying to overcome damnation since time immemorial and the incessant message that if you grow up a mollycoddle your life is basically flocked, with something at least hopeful. Even if there were only one in ten years, given the shyte we had to go through to get this far, I'd still be amazed at what's been accomplished.
I never heard such a pile of horse manure in my life.

Who wrote it for you, Larry Brinkin?

Since: Nov 13

Location hidden

#19 Nov 17, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
<quoted text>
HIV was circulating in various human populations long before the modern gay liberation movement started in 1969 with the Stonewall Riots.
The vast majority of people today who are suffering from hiv\AIDS are black people, and str8 people. Black males in the U.S. make up only about 5% of the total U.S. population, yet are 10 times more likely to be infected with hiv than white males.
Gay females have the lowest rate of hiv infection.
Gay males -- although only 4% of the population -- are 65% of all new HIV cases. Obviously, male-to-male anal sex is what's getting them sick.

Why are you in denial about this?
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#20 Nov 17, 2013
snyper wrote:
That means that about 1/4 of gay people are in a committed monogamous relationship.
You don't have to be married to be in a committed monogamous relationship. Being married doesn't guarantee you'll be in a committed monogamous relationship.
Maybe Bill

Livermore, CA

#21 Nov 17, 2013
garylloyd wrote:
<quoted text>
Gay males -- although only 4% of the population -- are 65% of all new HIV cases. Obviously, male-to-male anal sex is what's getting them sick.
Why are you in denial about this?
So gary,when did you get out of the joint? I mean this time? Did you forget you used to do tranny's in the old days? What a flaming hypocrite you are! You're dismissed!
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#22 Nov 17, 2013
snyper wrote:
<quoted text>
Reposted from an earlier post by "Rainbow Kid" ...
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"309,000,000 Americans X 3% Gay Americans = 9,270,000.
9,270,000 Gay Americans / 50 States = 185,400 Gay Americans per State
185,400 Gay Americans per State X 6 States that allow Gay Marriage = 1,112,400
131,729 Reported Gay Marriages X 2 = 262,458 Gay Americans in a Marriage
(262,458 Gay Americans in a Marriage / 1,112,400 X 100)= 23.6%
So proportionally, 23.6% of gay people are in a gay marriage. This rate would go up if you included civil unions and domestic partnerships. That means that about 1/4 of gay people are in a committed monogamous relationship.
Let's do heterosexuals now.
309,000,000 Americans X .97 Straight Americans = 299,730,000
According to the Census, a total of 114,567,419 households were reported.
Of those, 48.6% were reported as married couples.
114,567,419 X .486 = 55,679,765 married couples.
55,679,765 married couples X 2 = 111,359,539 married people.
299,730,000 Straight Americans / 111,359,539 married people X 100 = 37.1%.
So 23.1% of gay and lesbian Americans are reported to be in a marriage, and 37.1% of straight Americans are reported to be in a marriage.
That discrepency has a lot of factors involved, but it does reveal that gays and lesbians are entering committed, monogamous relationships at steadily increasing rates, and the more accepting the society is for GLBT people, the more quickly you will see the two percentages become closer.
Isn't math fun?
Math is fun, isn't it?"
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It sure is.
Math can be fun, it can also be a joke.
"3% Gay Americans" - The CDC estimates 4% just for gay males.
"185,400 Gay Americans per State" - Really?
There isn't much right about your 'fun' figures.

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