EMU to pay $75,000 to social work student who refused to counsel gay client

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Julea Ward is an Eastern Michigan University student who was expelled from a counseling program because she refused to counsel gays and lesbians about their lifestyles won a a major victory in the U.S. 6th Circuit Court of Appeals.

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“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

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#1 Dec 10, 2012
Her moral convictions sure went cheap.

Since: Dec 08

El Paso, TX

#2 Dec 11, 2012
LOL

That's what I was thinking as I finished reading the article. No changes in the schools curriculum. That's a good thing.
Rick in Kansas wrote:
Her moral convictions sure went cheap.

“ reality, what a concept”

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#3 Dec 11, 2012
TomInElPaso wrote:
LOL
That's what I was thinking as I finished reading the article. No changes in the schools curriculum. That's a good thing.
Her "big win" in the 6th Circuit was that she was actually going to get a trial, her lawsuit had initially been dismissed. Here she was being given the opportunity to prove that her religious freedom had been savaged by this godless institution of government and she gave up for a measly 75k. Her alleged fundamental rights not only went cheap, her fire sale on them left everything right where it was on the question.
Sheik Yerbouti

Pennington, NJ

#4 Dec 11, 2012
What a vile disgusting bigot! She should be prevented from being a counselor anywhere! Hopefully the other students and faculty will make her pathetic life a living hell!'religious' beliefs indeed!! Just another parasite looking for a big payday!
oral roberts

Warwick, RI

#5 Dec 11, 2012
Sheik Yerbouti wrote:
What a vile disgusting bigot! She should be prevented from being a counselor anywhere! Hopefully the other students and faculty will make her pathetic life a living hell!'religious' beliefs indeed!! Just another parasite looking for a big payday!
She is vile because she simply refused to counsel these kids? It's a free country weather you agree with it or not.

Since: May 12

Bellevue, WA

#6 Dec 11, 2012
i think its awesome.... so that means i can refuse service to christians ... sweet

“ reality, what a concept”

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#7 Dec 11, 2012
oral roberts wrote:
She is vile because she simply refused to counsel these kids? It's a free country weather you agree with it or not.
Sweetie, she did violate the ethics of her chosen profession in doing so, counselors are not permitted to decline patients on the basis of trivialities like their religion, race, sex, sexual orientation, etc. Whether that makes her vile or not is a matter of opinion, but she certainly wasn't in the right.

Since: May 12

Bellevue, WA

#8 Dec 11, 2012
SWEET.... I CAN NOW LEGALLY DISCRIMINATE AGAINST CHRISTIANS... THIS ROCKS

“ reality, what a concept”

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#9 Dec 11, 2012
Lililth_Satans_Bore wrote:
SWEET.... I CAN NOW LEGALLY DISCRIMINATE AGAINST CHRISTIANS... THIS ROCKS
Sorry, she didn't win a right to discriminate for anyone, she sold it for an easy $75k.

Since: May 12

Bellevue, WA

#10 Dec 11, 2012
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>Sorry, she didn't win a right to discriminate for anyone, she sold it for an easy $75k.
please..... i am a satanist and helping christardos violates my moral code

“ reality, what a concept”

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#11 Dec 11, 2012
Lililth_Satans_Bore wrote:
please..... i am a satanist and helping christardos violates my moral code
Sorry, but if you wanna be a counselor and get your degree through EMU, you still can't discriminate, she gave up her morals for cash, you won't be getting anything for giving up your own.

Since: Dec 08

El Paso, TX

#12 Dec 11, 2012
Not that your type would understand it, but she refused to follow a civilized code of ethics that prevents discrimination. She refused and was removed from the educational program.

Got what she deserved but give it your best and lets hear you defend discrimination from social workers towards their potential clients. Have at it, lets hear you defend it.

She needs to move on to one of the right wing schools like Oral Roberts "University" where your kind of hate is served to the students on huge platter.

oral roberts wrote:
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She is vile because she simply refused to counsel these kids? It's a free country weather you agree with it or not.
oral roberts

Warwick, RI

#14 Dec 11, 2012
TomInElPaso wrote:
<quoted text>Not that your type would understand it, but she refused to follow a civilized code of ethics that prevents discrimination. She refused and was removed from the educational program.

Got what she deserved but give it your best and lets hear you defend discrimination from social workers towards their potential clients. Have at it, lets hear you defend it.

She needs to move on to one of the right wing schools like Oral Roberts "University" where your kind of hate is served to the students on huge platter.
You truly are dense my mental midget pal. I think she is wrong but she has a right to feel anyway she wants to. Damn that freedom of others. God bless you even though he isn't real.
oral roberts

Warwick, RI

#15 Dec 11, 2012
Lililth_Satans_Bore wrote:
i think its awesome.... so that means i can refuse service to christians ... sweet

Absolutely correct!! I always am concerned about people who worship invisible people in the sky.

Since: Dec 08

El Paso, TX

#16 Dec 11, 2012
She can feel any damned way she pleases but when she brings those feelings with her into the classroom and on into the workplace she fails. It hasn't a thing to do with the freedom of others. She agreed to the Code of Ethics when she signed up for the course.

Take off your aluminum hat, you might learn something.
oral roberts wrote:
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You truly are dense my mental midget pal. I think she is wrong but she has a right to feel anyway she wants to. Damn that freedom of others. God bless you even though he isn't real.

Since: Apr 08

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#17 Dec 11, 2012
Lililth_Satans_Bore wrote:
i think its awesome.... so that means i can refuse service to christians ... sweet
No, it means a taxpayer supported public institution cannot fire someone based on their religious beliefs.

“ reality, what a concept”

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#18 Dec 11, 2012
Bama Yankee wrote:
No, it means a taxpayer supported public institution cannot fire someone based on their religious beliefs.
Actually, her being booted from the program still stands and her alleged religious beliefs (which went pretty cheap) remain an unacceptable excuse for violating the ethical standards of her profession. Sorry.
oral roberts

Warwick, RI

#19 Dec 11, 2012
TomInElPaso wrote:
<quoted text>She can feel any damned way she pleases but when she brings those feelings with her into the classroom and on into the workplace she fails. It hasn't a thing to do with the freedom of others. She agreed to the Code of Ethics when she signed up for the course.

Take off your aluminum hat, you might learn something.
You are a angry little thing aren't you? I am also wearing the tin foil hat you made me. I also didn't say she should not have been fired only that she has a right to her own opinion. How can you be so slow in the noggin?

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#20 Dec 11, 2012
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>Actually, her being booted from the program still stands and her alleged religious beliefs (which went pretty cheap) remain an unacceptable excuse for violating the ethical standards of her profession. Sorry.
You are correct. You're sorry.

The $75K award speaks for itself.

Since: May 12

Bellevue, WA

#21 Dec 12, 2012
Bama Yankee wrote:
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No, it means a taxpayer supported public institution cannot fire someone based on their religious beliefs.
i stil will no longer help a christian.... it violates my morals

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